Examining -static package build timestamps in koji

2012-05-04 Thread Michael Schwendt
* 40 packages in Rawhide are older than one of their -static
  BuildRequires. Doesn't mean much. Just curious. Of those 40 packages,

 7 link with binutils libs
21 link with flex libs-- flex doesn't change often, though
 3 link with g2clib libs
 6 link with hdf libs
 3 link with nss or nss-softokn

* The age difference of the builds is between 0 and 447 days compared with
  their static BR.
  For g2clib between 15 and 55 days.
  For hdf between 1 and 60 days.

  And huh? 447 days?

ksplice-0.9.9-2.fc15.src  older than  binutils-2.22.52.0.2-1.fc18.src.rpm
  447 days

esc-1.1.0-14.fc15.src  older than  nss-3.13.4-3.fc18.src.rpm
  385 days

tilda-0.9.6-6.fc16.src  older than  flex-2.5.35-15.fc18.src.rpm
  231 days

* Not bad, I think.
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Re: Examining -static package build timestamps in koji

2012-05-04 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote:
 * 40 packages in Rawhide are older than one of their -static
  BuildRequires. Doesn't mean much. Just curious. Of those 40 packages,

     7 link with binutils libs
    21 link with flex libs        -- flex doesn't change often, though
     3 link with g2clib libs
     6 link with hdf libs
     3 link with nss or nss-softokn

 * The age difference of the builds is between 0 and 447 days compared with
  their static BR.
  For g2clib between 15 and 55 days.
  For hdf between 1 and 60 days.

  And huh? 447 days?

    ksplice-0.9.9-2.fc15.src  older than  binutils-2.22.52.0.2-1.fc18.src.rpm
      447 days

This package is essentially dead.  It was superseded by the ksplice
'upstart' package quite a while ago, which is provided by Oracle now.

Fedora doesn't support ksplice anyway, so it can probably be dropped.

josh
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Re: Examining -static package build timestamps in koji

2012-05-04 Thread Petr Machata
Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com writes:

 21 link with flex libs-- flex doesn't change often, though

I believe that libfl.a hasn't really changed in Fedora at all.  It
exports two symbols, totaling something like 10 lines of actual code.
Absence of client rebuilds is just not a problem in this case.

 tilda-0.9.6-6.fc16.src  older than  flex-2.5.35-15.fc18.src.rpm
   231 days

Thanks,
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Re: tilda unmaintained? (was: Re: Examining -static package build timestamps in koji)

2012-05-04 Thread Johannes Lips
Well I would like to see tilda maintained in fedora. In this bugreport I
created the patch and asked a provenpackager to apply it, which never
actually happened.
I could of course apply for co-maintainership but I doubt that the
maintainer would answer in a timely manner, like on most of his bugreports.
Johannes

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Michael Schwendt 
mschwe...@fedoraproject.org wrote:

 On Fri, 04 May 2012 18:30:58 +0200, PM (Petr) wrote:

   21 link with flex libs-- flex doesn't change often, though
 
  I believe that libfl.a hasn't really changed in Fedora at all.  It
  exports two symbols, totaling something like 10 lines of actual code.
  Absence of client rebuilds is just not a problem in this case.
 
   tilda-0.9.6-6.fc16.src  older than  flex-2.5.35-15.fc18.src.rpm
 231 days

 Yeah, I figured so much.

 Interestingly, tilda has failed to rebuild two times in a row according
 to koji status, and its bug status page doesn't look too pretty:

http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/tilda

 There's even somebody interested in co-maintaining it, but hasn't got
 a response in over a month: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/781875

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Re: tilda unmaintained? (was: Re: Examining -static package build timestamps in koji)

2012-05-04 Thread Jon Ciesla
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Johannes Lips
johannes.l...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Well I would like to see tilda maintained in fedora. In this bugreport I
 created the patch and asked a provenpackager to apply it, which never
 actually happened.

I'll take a look.

-J

 I could of course apply for co-maintainership but I doubt that the
 maintainer would answer in a timely manner, like on most of his bugreports.
 Johannes

 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Michael Schwendt
 mschwe...@fedoraproject.org wrote:

 On Fri, 04 May 2012 18:30:58 +0200, PM (Petr) wrote:

       21 link with flex libs        -- flex doesn't change often,
   though
 
  I believe that libfl.a hasn't really changed in Fedora at all.  It
  exports two symbols, totaling something like 10 lines of actual code.
  Absence of client rebuilds is just not a problem in this case.
 
       tilda-0.9.6-6.fc16.src  older than  flex-2.5.35-15.fc18.src.rpm
         231 days

 Yeah, I figured so much.

 Interestingly, tilda has failed to rebuild two times in a row according
 to koji status, and its bug status page doesn't look too pretty:

    http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/tilda

 There's even somebody interested in co-maintaining it, but hasn't got
 a response in over a month: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/781875

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Re: tilda unmaintained? (was: Re: Examining -static package build timestamps in koji)

2012-05-04 Thread Jon Ciesla
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Jon Ciesla limburg...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Johannes Lips
 johannes.l...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Well I would like to see tilda maintained in fedora. In this bugreport I
 created the patch and asked a provenpackager to apply it, which never
 actually happened.

 I'll take a look.

I've got it building, but as correctly noted in the BZs, it crashes
until you start it hidden.  I'll put what I have in rawhide, if anyone
fixes the segfault for real, email me a patch.

-J

 -J

 I could of course apply for co-maintainership but I doubt that the
 maintainer would answer in a timely manner, like on most of his bugreports.
 Johannes

 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Michael Schwendt
 mschwe...@fedoraproject.org wrote:

 On Fri, 04 May 2012 18:30:58 +0200, PM (Petr) wrote:

       21 link with flex libs        -- flex doesn't change often,
   though
 
  I believe that libfl.a hasn't really changed in Fedora at all.  It
  exports two symbols, totaling something like 10 lines of actual code.
  Absence of client rebuilds is just not a problem in this case.
 
       tilda-0.9.6-6.fc16.src  older than  flex-2.5.35-15.fc18.src.rpm
         231 days

 Yeah, I figured so much.

 Interestingly, tilda has failed to rebuild two times in a row according
 to koji status, and its bug status page doesn't look too pretty:

    http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/tilda

 There's even somebody interested in co-maintaining it, but hasn't got
 a response in over a month: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/781875

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