Re: Introducing Python 3.5 nightly builds for Fedora
On 07/30/2014 12:04 AM, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: - Original Message - On 07/03/2014 11:55 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote: Other than the packaging reasons: Fedora might attract Python enthusiasts and developers as it is most likely the only Linux distro that has development version of Python packaged nightly. Developers and powerusers can play with new features committed yesterday just by doing `dnf update`. I actually mentioned this in my recent SciPy keynote, on the grounds that scientists may want to play around with the new matrix multiplication operator without having to build Python from source :) Yeah, I saw that one on YouTube. Good talk :) Actually, I'd like to advertise this even more, e.g. on some of Python upstream mailing list - on the other hand, I don't want to look like I'm spamming everyone needlessly... What do you think would be the best place to announce this? python-announce-list? You can get away with a lot on python-ideas, and you're likely to find folks potentially interested in playing around with it there. Cheers, Nick. -- Nick Coghlan Red Hat Hosted Shared Services Software Engineering Development, Brisbane HSS Provisioning Architect ___ python-devel mailing list python-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/python-devel
Re: Introducing Python 3.5 nightly builds for Fedora
- Original Message - On 07/03/2014 11:55 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote: Other than the packaging reasons: Fedora might attract Python enthusiasts and developers as it is most likely the only Linux distro that has development version of Python packaged nightly. Developers and powerusers can play with new features committed yesterday just by doing `dnf update`. I actually mentioned this in my recent SciPy keynote, on the grounds that scientists may want to play around with the new matrix multiplication operator without having to build Python from source :) Yeah, I saw that one on YouTube. Good talk :) Actually, I'd like to advertise this even more, e.g. on some of Python upstream mailing list - on the other hand, I don't want to look like I'm spamming everyone needlessly... What do you think would be the best place to announce this? python-announce-list? Thanks, Slavek Cheers, Nick. ___ python-devel mailing list python-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/python-devel
Re: Introducing Python 3.5 nightly builds for Fedora
On 07/03/2014 11:55 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote: Other than the packaging reasons: Fedora might attract Python enthusiasts and developers as it is most likely the only Linux distro that has development version of Python packaged nightly. Developers and powerusers can play with new features committed yesterday just by doing `dnf update`. I actually mentioned this in my recent SciPy keynote, on the grounds that scientists may want to play around with the new matrix multiplication operator without having to build Python from source :) Cheers, Nick. -- Nick Coghlan Red Hat Hosted Shared Services Software Engineering Development, Brisbane HSS Provisioning Architect ___ python-devel mailing list python-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/python-devel
Re: Introducing Python 3.5 nightly builds for Fedora
Dne 4.7.2014 02:06, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napsal(a): Hi, looks like something I might use for development of Python software. But for this to be truly useful, I'd need a bunch of stuff on top, at least numpy/scipy, but also pytables, matplotlib. Without that it would be even hard to test building of packages, since they often depend on those modules (and others of course). Is there any chance you could add cascaded builds of the most popular extensions? Hi Zbyszek, Thanks for your feedback. Unfortunately we do not plan to build most popular extensions in this repository. We would have to select those and that would lead to either 1) unhappy people (without necessary packages) or 2) rebuilding almost the whole Python stack in Copr as SCL (not enough man power, not worth the work). You can either use pip to install dependencies or build your dependencies as RPMs in your own Copr/mock. Feel free to ping me on IRC if you need help. -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC: mhroncok -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Introducing Python 3.5 nightly builds for Fedora
Hi everybody, I'd like to introduce a new project of Slavek Kabrda and mine: Copr repository with nightly builds of development version of Python 3. http://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/churchyard/python3-nightly/ How does it work? = Each night, at 00:01 CET/CEST, dgroc [1] is run and checks out if any of the following upstream projects has some new commits in master/default branch: * cpython * setuptools * pip * wheel If so, it creates SRPM with code from that specific new commit and builds it in the copr repository. Is is being built as a software collection, not to break system python3 package (that being in critpath once Python 3 will be the default). Benefits This will let us know immediately when our patches of Python 3 package are broken. We can react when that happens a we know exactly what commit (or at lest what day) broke it. This will avoid a big fix all the patches spree once Python 3.5 is stable and hits Fedora. The builds also run the test suite, so we can see regressions when they happen and we can communicate with Python upstream fast and flexible (again, instead of a mass failure once Python 3.5 hits Fedora). It also let us and you to test if your packages build and run with Python 3.5, so we can avoid more confusion once Python 3.5... you see what I mean. Other than the packaging reasons: Fedora might attract Python enthusiasts and developers as it is most likely the only Linux distro that has development version of Python packaged nightly. Developers and powerusers can play with new features committed yesterday just by doing `dnf update`. How to use it = Ad the repository (with dnf copr plugin, or manually), and install python35 package. That installs the software collection and you can use it as any other software collection: $ scl enable python35 python Or $ scl enable python35 bash You can also install packages from PyPI: # scl enable python35 bash # pip install ipython How to (test)build my package against Python 3.5 If you want to build your package against Python 3.5, you can do it in the following way: 1. Update the spec by adding SCL related macros, see [2][3] 2. In mock or Copr, add the repository and add the following packages to the chroot: scl-utils-build python35-build [4][5] 3. Build and profit [1] https://github.com/pypingou/dgroc [2] http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora_Contributor_Documentation/1/html/Software_Collections_Guide/sect-Converting_a_Conventional_Spec_File.html [3] https://bitbucket.org/bkabrda/spec2scl/ [4] https://lists.fedorahosted.org/pipermail/softwarecollections/2012-November/18.html [5] http://mmaslano.livejournal.com/9668.html -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC: mhroncok -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Introducing Python 3.5 nightly builds for Fedora
On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 03:55:51PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: Other than the packaging reasons: Fedora might attract Python enthusiasts and developers as it is most likely the only Linux distro that has development version of Python packaged nightly. Developers and powerusers can play with new features committed yesterday just by doing `dnf update`. Hi, looks like something I might use for development of Python software. But for this to be truly useful, I'd need a bunch of stuff on top, at least numpy/scipy, but also pytables, matplotlib. Without that it would be even hard to test building of packages, since they often depend on those modules (and others of course). Is there any chance you could add cascaded builds of the most popular extensions? Zbyszek -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
