Re: [EXT] Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal (late): No i686 Repositories

2019-09-09 Thread John M. Harris Jr.
On Monday, September 9, 2019 1:00:51 PM MST Anderson, Charles R wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 09, 2019 at 07:57:20PM -, vvs vvs wrote:
> 
> > Well, thanks for sharing.
> > 
> > I'm not complaining that nobody wants to fix things for me. I'm
> > complaining because there is no possibility to fix things myself. After
> > removing i686 repository I'm either should start building it myself or
> > switch to another distribution. I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings,
> > I just have no other choice. If there is no possibility to keep that
> > repository than it's fine, but I was not convinced that there are other
> > reasons for that decision aside bureaucratic ones and lack of empathy. If
> > putting that repository on some optional host for anyone to be able to
> > fix it themselves would severely harm the project then I was wrong all
> > along and I'm really sorry.
> 
> If you don't care about i686 not being "supported" but just want to have
> access to the repositories so you can use/fix them yourself, then why don't
> you just keep running Fedora 30 or 29 forever?  The old bits will always be
> there (moved to archive/ directory) and you can keep using them.

Please do not suggest things like that. That would mean that security updates 
are not provided, bug fixes never make it in, and so on.

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Re: [EXT] Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal (late): No i686 Repositories

2019-09-09 Thread vvs vvs
And I thought that should be obvious, silly me. Just kidding.

Of course I would do it if there were no better choice. I'm just struggling to 
find out if there is no other possibility whatsoever. There might be reasons 
why Fedora is just unable to keep it updated that I don't know. And of course I 
could use another repository provided by some other distribution. I'm just 
trying to find out what are my options. I would prefer to keep using modern 
Fedora unless I'm forced not to.

Just in case. There is no reason to believe that I'm upset or frustrated. 
That's just a conversation which might get heated at a time for various reasons 
which are not directly related to the subject.
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Re: [EXT] Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal (late): No i686 Repositories

2019-09-09 Thread Anderson, Charles R
On Mon, Sep 09, 2019 at 07:57:20PM -, vvs vvs wrote:
> Well, thanks for sharing.
> 
> I'm not complaining that nobody wants to fix things for me. I'm complaining 
> because there is no possibility to fix things myself. After removing i686 
> repository I'm either should start building it myself or switch to another 
> distribution. I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings, I just have no other 
> choice. If there is no possibility to keep that repository than it's fine, 
> but I was not convinced that there are other reasons for that decision aside 
> bureaucratic ones and lack of empathy. If putting that repository on some 
> optional host for anyone to be able to fix it themselves would severely harm 
> the project then I was wrong all along and I'm really sorry.

If you don't care about i686 not being "supported" but just want to have access 
to the repositories so you can use/fix them yourself, then why don't you just 
keep running Fedora 30 or 29 forever?  The old bits will always be there (moved 
to archive/ directory) and you can keep using them.
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