Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> Dne 19. 05. 20 v 14:03 Richard Shaw napsal(a):
>> Because Qt 5.13.x / PySide2 5.13.x is NOT compatible with Python 3.8. But
>> instead of asking ourselves, "should we push in the VERY latest Python
>> and hope it's ok?", we just patch the build system to accept it anyway
>>
On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 3:39 PM Miroslav Suchý wrote:
>
> Dne 19. 05. 20 v 14:03 Richard Shaw napsal(a):
> > Because Qt 5.13.x / PySide2 5.13.x is NOT compatible with Python 3.8. But
> > instead of asking ourselves, "should we push
> > in the VERY latest Python and hope it's ok?", we just patch t
On 5/21/20 11:36 AM, Przemo Firszt wrote:
"FreeCAD -t 0" performs approx 470 tests. No GUI required. Example
output starts here:
That is not the case for me (freecad-0.18.4-5.fc31.x86_64):
...
test60 (PathTests.TestPathLog.TestPathLog)
Verify track handles no argument. ... TestPathLo
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 6:30 PM Richard Shaw wrote:
>
> On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 10:37 AM Przemo Firszt wrote:
>>
>> "FreeCAD -t 0" performs approx 470 tests. No GUI required. Example
>> output starts here:
>> https://travis-ci.org/github/FreeCAD/FreeCAD/jobs/689681966#L9103
>
>
> May need some wo
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 10:37 AM Przemo Firszt wrote:
> "FreeCAD -t 0" performs approx 470 tests. No GUI required. Example
> output starts here:
> https://travis-ci.org/github/FreeCAD/FreeCAD/jobs/689681966#L9103
May need some work to get working from inside mock:
# ./FreeCAD -t 0
FreeCAD 0.18
W dniu wto, 19.05.2020 o godzinie 17∶50 +0200, użytkownik Dan Horák
napisał:
> [..]
>
> I think Richard is rather looking for OpenQA for testing the GUI
> unless
> the FreeCAD functionality can be also tested thru some command line /
> text mode interface.
>
>
"FreeCAD -t 0" performs approx 470
Agreed. That a lot of Python is such in 2.7 land I know and understand well
and it's not something Fedora can fix without boiling an ocean or two.
Python 3.x is good but not compelling for many codebases. Maintainership
effort for many projects has dwindled, tech debt must now be paid in one
big l
On Thu, 21 May 2020 at 08:49, Martin Langhoff
wrote:
> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 3:47 PM Richard Shaw wrote:
> > Perhaps, but they are still too cumbersome for the average packager.
> > So I would have to create a module for Python 3.7, python-pyside2, and
> freecad, correct?
>
> Maybe Fedora need
On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 3:47 PM Richard Shaw wrote:
> Perhaps, but they are still too cumbersome for the average packager.
> So I would have to create a module for Python 3.7, python-pyside2, and
> freecad, correct?
Maybe Fedora needs parallel installable "python" and "python-next" stacks?
Prim
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 5:48 AM Przemo Firszt wrote:
>
> I think it's time for me to activate.. My name is Przemo, I'm long time
> redhat/PLD/fedora user with some experience in packaging. debugging,
> etc. I keep building FreeCAD since fedora 20, I also maintain FreeCAD
> nightly builds on COPR
Hi,
W dniu wto, 19.05.2020 o godzinie 07∶03 -0500, użytkownik Richard Shaw
napisał:
> So I get the whole Fedora first, but...
>
> Backstory:
>
> FreeCAD has been in a terrible state in Fedora for a couple of years
> now and I've nearly given up on trying to maintain the package a few
> times now
Le mercredi 20 mai 2020 à 22:18 +0200, Miro Hrončok a écrit :
>
> We could have parallel installable multiple Python version stacks
> w/out Modularity just fine. The "only little problem" is we hardly
> have the enough maintainers to maintain the 3k+ existing Python
> packages.
BTW, that’s not a
On 20. 05. 20 21:38, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
Dne 19. 05. 20 v 14:03 Richard Shaw napsal(a):
Because Qt 5.13.x / PySide2 5.13.x is NOT compatible with Python 3.8. But instead of
asking ourselves, "should we push
in the VERY latest Python and hope it's ok?", we just patch the build system to
accep
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On Wed, 2020-05-20 at 21:38 +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> Dne 19. 05. 20 v 14:03 Richard Shaw napsal(a):
> > Because Qt 5.13.x / PySide2 5.13.x is NOT compatible with Python
> > 3.8. But instead of asking ourselves, "should we push
> > in the VERY l
On Wed, 20 May 2020 at 15:39, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> Dne 19. 05. 20 v 14:03 Richard Shaw napsal(a):
> > Because Qt 5.13.x / PySide2 5.13.x is NOT compatible with Python 3.8.
> But instead of asking ourselves, "should we push
> > in the VERY latest Python and hope it's ok?", we just patch the bui
On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 2:39 PM Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> Dne 19. 05. 20 v 14:03 Richard Shaw napsal(a):
> > Because Qt 5.13.x / PySide2 5.13.x is NOT compatible with Python 3.8.
> But instead of asking ourselves, "should we push
> > in the VERY latest Python and hope it's ok?", we just patch the b
Dne 19. 05. 20 v 14:03 Richard Shaw napsal(a):
> Because Qt 5.13.x / PySide2 5.13.x is NOT compatible with Python 3.8. But
> instead of asking ourselves, "should we push
> in the VERY latest Python and hope it's ok?", we just patch the build system
> to accept it anyway and hope for the best.
>
Orion Poplawski wrote:
> I guess my hope here is that perhaps we allow build failures hold up
> finishing the rest of a stack's build a bit longer. Let that pressure
> build to hopefully get some more eyes on really fixing the underlying
> issues.
I am of that mindset too.
Unfortunately, these d
On 19. 05. 20 14:24, Miro Hrončok wrote:
If we integrate new Python versions later, this "trying hard" will just shift
from alphas and betas to .1 and .2.
One more important thing to note is that for example with Python 3.9, it was
input from Fedora that made a couple long-deprecated-now-remov
On 5/19/20 6:03 AM, Richard Shaw wrote:
So I get the whole Fedora first, but...
Backstory:
FreeCAD has been in a terrible state in Fedora for a couple of years now
and I've nearly given up on trying to maintain the package a few times
now. The previous battle was with the Coin3D stack which f
On Tue, 19 May 2020, 18:10 Adam Williamson,
wrote:
> On Tue, 2020-05-19 at 10:43 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote:
> > On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 10:31 AM Adam Williamson <
> adamw...@fedoraproject.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, 2020-05-19 at 08:49 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote:
> > > > I think here we need
On Tue, 2020-05-19 at 10:43 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote:
> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 10:31 AM Adam Williamson
> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 2020-05-19 at 08:49 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote:
> > > I think here we need better ways of testing software in Rawhide other
> > than
> > > well, running Rawhide (VM or b
On Tue, 2020-05-19 at 17:50 +0200, Dan Horák wrote:
> On Tue, 19 May 2020 08:29:45 -0700
> Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 2020-05-19 at 08:49 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote:
> > > I think here we need better ways of testing software in Rawhide
> > > other than well, running Rawhide (VM or bare m
On Tue, 19 May 2020 08:29:45 -0700
Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2020-05-19 at 08:49 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote:
> > I think here we need better ways of testing software in Rawhide
> > other than well, running Rawhide (VM or bare metal), besides the
> > old mock chroot xnest hack. I'm open to s
On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 10:31 AM Adam Williamson
wrote:
> On Tue, 2020-05-19 at 08:49 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote:
> > I think here we need better ways of testing software in Rawhide other
> than
> > well, running Rawhide (VM or bare metal), besides the old mock chroot
> xnest
> > hack. I'm open to
On Tue, 2020-05-19 at 08:49 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote:
> I think here we need better ways of testing software in Rawhide other than
> well, running Rawhide (VM or bare metal), besides the old mock chroot xnest
> hack. I'm open to suggestion here.
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/ci/ ?
--
Adam
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On Tue, 2020-05-19 at 16:11 +0200, Felix Schwarz wrote:
> Am 19.05.20 um 15:55 schrieb Richard Shaw:
> > Thanks! I do overall enjoy contributing to Fedora but like a lot of
> > us 10 year
> > plus packagers, I'm accumulated many packages (some a lot
Am 19.05.20 um 15:55 schrieb Richard Shaw:
> Thanks! I do overall enjoy contributing to Fedora but like a lot of us 10 year
> plus packagers, I'm accumulated many packages (some a lot more trouble than
> others!) and while I have no intention of taking a hiatus or anything I'm
> trying to find a p
On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 8:44 AM Felix Schwarz
wrote:
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> However: Thank you Richard for taking care of PySide2. I contributed (tiny
> bits) to Fedora's PySide/Shiboken packages in the past and I can only guess
> how many hours you spent to get the new versions into Fedora.
>
Thanks! I do overall
On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 8:37 AM Miro Hrončok wrote:
> On 19. 05. 20 15:19, Richard Shaw wrote:
> > Ask upstream to always test with develop version of Python, I believe
> > that services like Travis CI have 3.9-dev prepared so that they can
> > test early and adopt.
> >
> > Meanwh
Am 19.05.20 um 14:56 schrieb Igor Raits:
> I think we should get people who maintain Qt on board when updating
> Python so that they make sure to backport necessary patches from
> upstream when we upgrade Python.
Yeah, I think Richard got pretty unlucky when it comes to PySide2 (though
congrats f
On 19. 05. 20 15:19, Richard Shaw wrote:
Ask upstream to always test with develop version of Python, I believe
that services like Travis CI have 3.9-dev prepared so that they can
test early and adopt.
Meanwhile, if they can just link all relevant fixes - just backport
them in
On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 7:57 AM Igor Raits
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> Hi Richard,
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> On Tue, 2020-05-19 at 07:03 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote:
> > So I get the whole Fedora first, but...
> >
> > Backstory:
> >
> > FreeCAD has been in a terrible state in Fedora fo
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Hi Richard,
On Tue, 2020-05-19 at 07:03 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote:
> So I get the whole Fedora first, but...
>
> Backstory:
>
> FreeCAD has been in a terrible state in Fedora for a couple of years
> now
> and I've nearly given up on trying to main
On 19. 05. 20 14:03, Richard Shaw wrote:
So I get the whole Fedora first, but...
Backstory:
FreeCAD has been in a terrible state in Fedora for a couple of years now and
I've nearly given up on trying to maintain the package a few times now. The
previous battle was with the Coin3D stack which
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