Re: Backporting LLVM 3.1 for Fedora 17

2012-11-19 Thread Gilles J. Seguin
On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 08:09 +0700, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: [...] There's now a rebuild of LLVM 3.1 for F17: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=367092 The choice about what should be provided should be tagged - Fast Moving Development example boost libraries i like

Re: Backporting LLVM 3.1 for Fedora 17

2012-11-18 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/17/2012 12:41 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: On Fri, 2012-11-16 at 16:32 +0100, Jakub Jelinek wrote: I guess for that it doesn't help that only one of the 4 llvm-libs shared libraries (libLLVM-3.*.so) has the version in its name, the other 3

Re: Backporting LLVM 3.1 for Fedora 17

2012-11-18 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/18/2012 01:11 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Kalev Lember wrote: I am a strong believer that new features should only be introduced in new Fedora releases. This is why we have releases after all: so that people could choose when they get new

Re: Backporting LLVM 3.1 for Fedora 17

2012-11-17 Thread Kevin Kofler
Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: ps has John Palmieri left Red Hat? As far as I know, yes, he has. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Backporting LLVM 3.1 for Fedora 17

2012-11-17 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Jackson wrote: This would actually make it easier to keep updated Mesa in older releases. Right now if we backport Mesa 9 to F17 we'd have to disable the radeonsi driver as it requires = llvm 3.1. Good to hear that you're also in favor of this (since some people had voiced concerns

Re: Backporting LLVM 3.1 for Fedora 17

2012-11-17 Thread Kalev Lember
On 11/16/2012 10:13 AM, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: Sending this to the relevant package owners as well as the development list - if there's too much pushback, I'll look at backporting the patches instead, though given that LLVM 3.2 is scheduled for release next month, if we agree, going

Re: Backporting LLVM 3.1 for Fedora 17

2012-11-17 Thread Kevin Kofler
Kalev Lember wrote: I am a strong believer that new features should only be introduced in new Fedora releases. This is why we have releases after all: so that people could choose when they get new features. If they want stability [1], they can choose not to upgrade; if they want new features

Re: Backporting LLVM 3.1 for Fedora 17

2012-11-16 Thread Adam Jackson
On Fri, 2012-11-16 at 16:13 +0700, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: Sending this to the relevant package owners as well as the development list - if there's too much pushback, I'll look at backporting the patches instead, though given that LLVM 3.2 is scheduled for release next month, if we

Re: Backporting LLVM 3.1 for Fedora 17

2012-11-16 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 09:49:19AM -0500, Adam Jackson wrote: That said, llvm consumers are difficult to keep in sync with llvm anyway. Many llvm projects seem like they pick a point release to build against and then never get updated when the ABI changes. If we do this we might want to

Re: Backporting LLVM 3.1 for Fedora 17

2012-11-16 Thread Adam Jackson
On Fri, 2012-11-16 at 16:32 +0100, Jakub Jelinek wrote: I guess for that it doesn't help that only one of the 4 llvm-libs shared libraries (libLLVM-3.*.so) has the version in its name, the other 3 clearly dependent on that one don't, eventhough I very much doubt they are anywhere close to be

Re: Backporting LLVM 3.1 for Fedora 17

2012-11-16 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 16/11/2012 22:32, Jakub Jelinek wrote: On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 09:49:19AM -0500, Adam Jackson wrote: That said, llvm consumers are difficult to keep in sync with llvm anyway. Many llvm projects seem like they pick a point release to build

Re: Backporting LLVM 3.1 for Fedora 17

2012-11-16 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 16/11/2012 21:49, Adam Jackson wrote: On Fri, 2012-11-16 at 16:13 +0700, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: Sending this to the relevant package owners as well as the development list - if there's too much pushback, I'll look at backporting the