Re: Btrfs as default filesystem for Fedora 23?

2015-08-05 Thread Josef Bacik
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Neal Gompa ngomp...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, Over the last few months (since Fedora 22 beta's release), I've been using Btrfs as my daily driver filesystem across a multitude of machines. After Fedora 22 released, I tried it with RAID 5 and RAID 6 enabled on

Re: Btrfs as default filesystem for Fedora 23?

2015-06-25 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 4:19 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Andre Robatino robat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Neal Gompa ngompa13 at gmail.com writes: As I recall,

Re: Btrfs as default filesystem for Fedora 23?

2015-06-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2015-06-24 at 14:49 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: Yet this bug [1] is routinely voted [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=864198  Not that anyone should go try to make sense out of a three year

Re: Btrfs as default filesystem for Fedora 23?

2015-06-25 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Adam Williamson adamw...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Thu, 2015-06-25 at 18:06 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: Preventing the conditions that result in boot failure is not the same thing as fixing the underlying problem with /boot on Btrfs being unsupported by

Re: Btrfs as default filesystem for Fedora 23?

2015-06-25 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 9:41 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: The phrase nah, we don't want to fix it now, therefore the release criteria don't matter is a characterization of QA's application of release criteria. is ^NOT a characterization (Even after proof reading it!) --

Re: Btrfs as default filesystem for Fedora 23?

2015-06-25 Thread Chris Murphy
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:53 PM, Michael Catanzaro mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: We're unlikely to move forward with btrfs for Workstation until the kernel team changes its recommendation. There's work to be done that's not at all contingent on the kernel team changing its rec. Add Btrfs

Re: Btrfs as default filesystem for Fedora 23?

2015-06-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2015-06-25 at 18:06 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Adam Williamson adamw...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Wed, 2015-06-24 at 14:49 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: Yet this bug

Re: Btrfs as default filesystem for Fedora 23?

2015-06-25 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Adam Williamson adamw...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Wed, 2015-06-24 at 14:49 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: Yet this bug [1] is routinely voted [1]

Re: Btrfs as default filesystem for Fedora 23?

2015-06-24 Thread Ian Malone
On 24 June 2015 at 04:28, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky zn...@znmeb.net wrote: On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 1:15 PM, Neal Gompa ngomp...@gmail.com wrote: Certainly, but with none of the features in Btrfs actually emitting scary experimental warnings anymore, and even all features working in btrfs RAID

Re: Btrfs as default filesystem for Fedora 23?

2015-06-24 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 9:07 PM, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote: On 23 June 2015 at 18:40, Neal Gompa ngomp...@gmail.com wrote: That is precisely why I'm asking on this list. I don't know who those people are, and this is really the best place I know of to start contact

Re: Btrfs as default filesystem for Fedora 23?

2015-06-24 Thread Chris Murphy
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: Yet this bug [1] is routinely voted [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=864198 Not that anyone should go try to make sense out of a three year old bug with over 100 comments... but the gist is nah, we don't

Re: Btrfs as default filesystem for Fedora 23?

2015-06-24 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Neal Gompa ngomp...@gmail.com wrote: Certainly, but with none of the features in Btrfs actually emitting scary experimental warnings anymore, and even all features working in btrfs RAID 5/6 now, I think we should really start pushing it to more people. The

Re: Btrfs as default filesystem for Fedora 23?

2015-06-24 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 9:07 PM, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote: On 23 June 2015 at 18:40, Neal Gompa ngomp...@gmail.com wrote: That is precisely why I'm asking on this list. I don't know who those people are, and this is really the best place I know of to start contact and those

Re: Btrfs as default filesystem for Fedora 23?

2015-06-24 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, 2015-06-23 at 19:07 -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: My apologies.. my tone was not helpful. You are correct that asking here is where to start. I think the groups who would be able to help answer would be 1. Kernel team 2. QA team 3. Anaconda team 4. Workstation/Server/Cloud or

Re: Btrfs as default filesystem for Fedora 23?

2015-06-24 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Andre Robatino robat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Neal Gompa ngompa13 at gmail.com writes: As I recall, Josef Bacik mentioned that he'd be pushing for Btrfs becoming the default in

Re: Btrfs as default filesystem for Fedora 23?

2015-06-23 Thread Andre Robatino
Neal Gompa ngompa13 at gmail.com writes: As I recall, Josef Bacik mentioned that he'd be pushing for Btrfs becoming the default in Fedora 23. At this point, I'm personally convinced that it is certainly ready and doable for F23. Perhaps other guys with more experience on this stuff could

Re: Btrfs as default filesystem for Fedora 23?

2015-06-23 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Andre Robatino robat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Neal Gompa ngompa13 at gmail.com writes: As I recall, Josef Bacik mentioned that he'd be pushing for Btrfs becoming the default in Fedora 23. At this point, I'm personally convinced that it is certainly ready

Re: Btrfs as default filesystem for Fedora 23?

2015-06-23 Thread Gerald B. Cox
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Neal Gompa ngomp...@gmail.com wrote: As I recall, Josef Bacik mentioned that he'd be pushing for Btrfs becoming the default in Fedora 23 https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2014-October/203058.html . At this point, I'm personally convinced that it

Re: Btrfs as default filesystem for Fedora 23?

2015-06-23 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Gerald B. Cox gb...@bzb.us wrote: On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Neal Gompa ngomp...@gmail.com wrote: As I recall, Josef Bacik mentioned that he'd be pushing for Btrfs becoming the default in Fedora 23

Re: Btrfs as default filesystem for Fedora 23?

2015-06-23 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 23 June 2015 at 14:15, Neal Gompa ngomp...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Gerald B. Cox gb...@bzb.us wrote: On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Neal Gompa ngomp...@gmail.com wrote: As I recall, Josef Bacik mentioned that he'd be pushing for Btrfs becoming the default in

Re: Btrfs as default filesystem for Fedora 23?

2015-06-23 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 4:20 PM, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote: On 23 June 2015 at 14:15, Neal Gompa ngomp...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Gerald B. Cox gb...@bzb.us wrote: On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Neal Gompa ngomp...@gmail.com wrote: As I