Re: Discussion: unixODBC - move unversioned *.so files back to unixODBC-devel package

2020-10-01 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 6:21 AM Ondrej Dubaj wrote: > My apologies, of course we are aiming to package the unversioned symbolic > links to the "real" libraries to *-devel package. I thought it was clear > from the beginning. > Ahh... I didn't get that from the initial message, I haven't looked

Re: Discussion: unixODBC - move unversioned *.so files back to unixODBC-devel package

2020-10-01 Thread Ondrej Dubaj
Rebuild of dependent packages with the new unixODBC seems to be quite optimistic. The are only few failures and none of them seems to be caused by some missing libraries. We can now discuss only about the runtime problems, as it seems, almost no buildtime problems occurred

Re: Discussion: unixODBC - move unversioned *.so files back to unixODBC-devel package

2020-10-01 Thread Ondrej Dubaj
My apologies, of course we are aiming to package the unversioned symbolic links to the "real" libraries to *-devel package. I thought it was clear from the beginning. Why should we hack the soversion ? There are no changes to the soname or ABI compatibility coming, we want to just package the

Re: Discussion: unixODBC - move unversioned *.so files back to unixODBC-devel package

2020-10-01 Thread Richard Shaw
Adding my $0.02 here... Since they are real libraries, they don't belong in a -devel package, the intent is to package the unversioned symbolic links to the "real" libraries. A end user package should never require a -devel package to run. One option would be to hack in a soversion to the build

Re: Discussion: unixODBC - move unversioned *.so files back to unixODBC-devel package

2020-10-01 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 01. 10. 20 v 12:28 Dan Horák napsal(a): > On Thu, 1 Oct 2020 12:06:51 +0200 > Ondrej Dubaj wrote: > >> I see no other discussion here and related arguments not to make this >> update. I know it might break other packages, but it needs to be done >> to be according to the guidelines. I do not

Re: Discussion: unixODBC - move unversioned *.so files back to unixODBC-devel package

2020-10-01 Thread Dan Horák
On Thu, 1 Oct 2020 12:06:51 +0200 Ondrej Dubaj wrote: > I see no other discussion here and related arguments not to make this > update. I know it might break other packages, but it needs to be done > to be according to the guidelines. I do not see it as a big problem to for the record -

Re: Discussion: unixODBC - move unversioned *.so files back to unixODBC-devel package

2020-10-01 Thread Ondrej Dubaj
I see no other discussion here and related arguments not to make this update. I know it might break other packages, but it needs to be done to be according to the guidelines. I do not see it as a big problem to rebuild the dependend packages with additional dependency on unixODBC-devel package, if

Re: Discussion: unixODBC - move unversioned *.so files back to unixODBC-devel package

2020-09-21 Thread Ondrej Dubaj
any other suggestions here ? I will be glad, if maintainers of dependent packages will share their opinions. If we fix this issue and it breaks dependent packages, simple workaround via symlink is available until the problems will be solved, so I see no reason for ignoring this problem. On Fri,

Re: Discussion: unixODBC - move unversioned *.so files back to unixODBC-devel package

2020-09-11 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 11. 09. 20 v 9:48 Florian Weimer napsal(a): > * Tom Hughes via devel: > >> On 11/09/2020 07:13, Ondrej Dubaj wrote: >> >>> There seemed to be no big reason for moving the libraries to the >>> main package in the past, so I consider f34 as a good candidate for >>> such a change. It would be

Re: Discussion: unixODBC - move unversioned *.so files back to unixODBC-devel package

2020-09-11 Thread Florian Weimer
* Tom Hughes via devel: > On 11/09/2020 07:13, Ondrej Dubaj wrote: > >> There seemed to be no big reason for moving the libraries to the >> main package in the past, so I consider f34 as a good candidate for >> such a change. It would be great, if  you share your opinions and >> concerns for this

Re: Discussion: unixODBC - move unversioned *.so files back to unixODBC-devel package

2020-09-11 Thread Ondrej Dubaj
On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 9:15 AM Lukas Javorsky wrote: > From my point of view, it's a good idea to move them into the *-devel > package. > > It's more effective and ordered for future development. > Because if someone only needs a few libraries, they don't have to require > the whole main

Re: Discussion: unixODBC - move unversioned *.so files back to unixODBC-devel package

2020-09-11 Thread Lukas Javorsky
>From my point of view, it's a good idea to move them into the *-devel package. It's more effective and ordered for future development. Because if someone only needs a few libraries, they don't have to require the whole main package and can just require a devel package, which is the way we want

Re: Discussion: unixODBC - move unversioned *.so files back to unixODBC-devel package

2020-09-11 Thread Tom Hughes via devel
On 11/09/2020 07:13, Ondrej Dubaj wrote: There seemed to be no big reason for moving the libraries to the main package in the past, so I consider f34 as a good candidate for such a change. It would be great, if  you share your opinions and concerns for this topic. Tom Lane has explained the