Nikos Roussos wrote:
It's a UX thing, so the Workstation WG seems like the best place to
decide this (at least for Gnome).
But the Workstation WG has no decision power over other desktop
environments, such as KDE, which, incidentally, is what the original poster
happens to use.
And I insist,
Lukas Zapletal wrote:
I am not interested in tapping at all (I actually hate random clicks and
I always disable this), but if you really want to see this, why don't
you start a new screen in Gnome to present a selection during the first
boot. Maybe Gnome folks will like the idea, maybe not.
Peter Hutterer wrote:
that sounds like bug, please file it here:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=xorg, component
Input/synaptics with one or more evemu recordings attached that triggered
an accidental tap.
while tapping has its drawbacks, it's not supposed to be that
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:27:53PM +0300, Mustafa Muhammad wrote:
Hi, I am testing Fedora 21 beta and -like all previous versions- click
by tapping is off by default.
Several bug reports concerning this were closed as NOTABUG, but
tapping is useful for us (people who use it), I don't think it
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 10:30:21AM +0100, Till Maas wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:27:53PM +0300, Mustafa Muhammad wrote:
Hi, I am testing Fedora 21 beta and -like all previous versions- click
by tapping is off by default.
Several bug reports concerning this were closed as NOTABUG, but
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 09:42:39AM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Nikos Roussos wrote:
It's a UX thing, so the Workstation WG seems like the best place to
decide this (at least for Gnome).
But the Workstation WG has no decision power over other desktop
environments, such as KDE, which,
What can we do to make this happen?
I am not interested in tapping at all (I actually hate random clicks and
I always disable this), but if you really want to see this, why don't
you start a new screen in Gnome to present a selection during the first
boot. Maybe Gnome folks will like the idea,
On Mon, 2014-11-17 at 15:50 +0100, Björn Persson wrote:
drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote:
Things are not black and white there is a disable touchpad while typing
option which would solve your problem while not making the impression that
something is broken like it is now.
Possibly, but
On 11/18/2014 11:29 AM, Les Howell wrote:
On Mon, 2014-11-17 at 15:50 +0100, Björn Persson wrote:
drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote:
Things are not black and white there is a disable touchpad while typing
option which would solve your problem while not making the impression that
something is
Hi Mustafa!
Mustafa Muhammad mustafaa.alhamda...@gmail.com writes:
Hi, I am testing Fedora 21 beta and -like all previous versions- click
by tapping is off by default.
Several bug reports concerning this were closed as NOTABUG, but
tapping is useful for us (people who use it), I don't think
- Original Message -
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Björn Persson bjorn@rombobjörn.se wrote:
drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote:
Things are not black and white there is a disable touchpad while typing
option which would solve your problem while not making the impression that
- Original Message -
Mustafa Muhammad mustafaa.alhamda...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Björn Persson bjorn@rombobjörn.se wrote:
Perhaps demonstrate that it won't cause the rest of us to click on
random things by accident, instead of just thinking so?
I
Jaroslav Nahorny jaros...@hackerspace.pl wrote:
[1] I know it's a far analogy, but let's try to imagine:
Let's disable wifi hardware by default. Why? Because some people are not
aware of this feature. They want to use their eth interface, and having
wireless interface turned on produces
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 6:50 AM, Mattias Ellert
mattias.ell...@fysast.uu.se wrote:
tis 2014-11-18 klockan 00:16 +0200 skrev Nikos Roussos:
On 11/18/2014 12:12 AM, Peter Hutterer wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:27:53PM +0300, Mustafa Muhammad wrote:
Hi, I am testing Fedora 21 beta and -like
Hi,
Even if you know that this weird feature exists, it will take you
hours to disable it, since while you are trying to find your way through
setting and control panels you will get tons and tons of random clicks
that open random windows that needs to be closed and change random
On 18 Nov 2014 05:56, Peter Hutterer peter.hutte...@who-t.net wrote:
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 12:16:26AM +0200, Nikos Roussos wrote:
On 11/18/2014 12:12 AM, Peter Hutterer wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:27:53PM +0300, Mustafa Muhammad wrote:
Hi, I am testing Fedora 21 beta and -like
Peter Hutterer píše v Út 18. 11. 2014 v 14:55 +1000:
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 12:16:26AM +0200, Nikos Roussos wrote:
On 11/18/2014 12:12 AM, Peter Hutterer wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:27:53PM +0300, Mustafa Muhammad wrote:
Hi, I am testing Fedora 21 beta and -like all previous
Mustafa Muhammad píše v Po 17. 11. 2014 v 14:27 +0300:
Hi, I am testing Fedora 21 beta and -like all previous versions- click
by tapping is off by default.
Several bug reports concerning this were closed as NOTABUG, but
tapping is useful for us (people who use it), I don't think it bothers
Björn Persson bj...@xn--rombobjrn-67a.se writes:
Jaroslav Nahorny jaros...@hackerspace.pl wrote:
[1] I know it's a far analogy, but let's try to imagine:
Let's disable wifi hardware by default. Why? Because some people are not
aware of this feature. They want to use their eth interface, and
Mustafa Muhammad wrote:
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Bastien Nocera bnoc...@redhat.com
wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Björn Persson bjorn@rombobjörn.se
wrote:
By the way, Disable touchpad when writing is enabled by default, so
this should not affect typing.
No, it's not
Erik Schilling wrote:
Over the time I just got used to hitting the special button...
And that's what that special button is for. :-)
If the touchpad has physical buttons (or physically-drawn virtual
buttons), why do users even expect tapping to produce a click? The finger
area is for moving,
On 18/11/14 22:02, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Erik Schilling wrote:
Over the time I just got used to hitting the special button...
And that's what that special button is for. :-)
If the touchpad has physical buttons (or physically-drawn virtual
buttons), why do users even expect tapping to
On 11/18/2014 01:02 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Erik Schilling wrote:
Over the time I just got used to hitting the special button...
And that's what that special button is for. :-)
If the touchpad has physical buttons (or physically-drawn virtual
buttons), why do users even expect tapping to
Jiri Eischmann wrote:
If you're talking about Workstation, then you should probably propose it
to their working group on the desktop mailing list. The working groups
are supposed to do such decisions now.
If you're talking about one of other spins (KDE, Xfce,...), then you
should go to the
drago01 wrote:
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 6:50 AM, Mattias Ellert
mattias.ell...@fysast.uu.se wrote:
Even if you know that this weird feature exists, it will take you
hours to disable it, since while you are trying to find your way through
setting and control panels you will get tons and tons
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at
wrote:
Erik Schilling wrote:
Over the time I just got used to hitting the special button...
And that's what that special button is for. :-)
If the touchpad has physical buttons (or physically-drawn virtual
buttons), why
On 11/18/2014 11:09 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Jiri Eischmann wrote:
If you're talking about Workstation, then you should probably propose it
to their working group on the desktop mailing list. The working groups
are supposed to do such decisions now.
If you're talking about one of other spins
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
drago01 wrote:
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 6:50 AM, Mattias Ellert
mattias.ell...@fysast.uu.se wrote:
Even if you know that this weird feature exists, it will take you
hours to disable it, since while you are trying to
I wrote:
If the touchpad has physical buttons (or physically-drawn virtual
buttons), why do users even expect tapping to produce a click? The finger
area is for moving, the buttons are for clicking. The only case in which
tapping makes sense is if the touchpad has NO buttons at all (but then
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:02:10PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
do you right-click? So I don't expect this to be a common case, except maybe
in Apple's one-button land).
Apple also disables tap-to-click by default. So if it's true that users
expect that to be enabled those expectations must've
Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at writes:
Erik Schilling wrote:
Over the time I just got used to hitting the special button...
And that's what that special button is for. :-)
If the touchpad has physical buttons (or physically-drawn virtual
buttons), why do users even expect tapping to
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 09:16:34PM +0100, Jaroslav Nahorny wrote:
Björn Persson bj...@xn--rombobjrn-67a.se writes:
Jaroslav Nahorny jaros...@hackerspace.pl wrote:
[1] I know it's a far analogy, but let's try to imagine:
Let's disable wifi hardware by default. Why? Because some people
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:05:01PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
drago01 wrote:
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 6:50 AM, Mattias Ellert
mattias.ell...@fysast.uu.se wrote:
Even if you know that this weird feature exists, it will take you
hours to disable it, since while you are trying to find
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:59:24PM +0100, Jaroslav Nahorny wrote:
Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at writes:
Erik Schilling wrote:
Over the time I just got used to hitting the special button...
And that's what that special button is for. :-)
If the touchpad has physical buttons
Jaroslav Nahorny composed on 2014-11-18 22:59 (UTC+0100):
I think, if the device have some capability (feature) it shouldn't be
disabled by default.
Right. Every feature every programmer takes the trouble to put into a
program, and every feature every chip maker puts into his chip, should be
Mustafa Muhammad mustafaa.alhamda...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, I am testing Fedora 21 beta and -like all previous versions- click
by tapping is off by default.
Several bug reports concerning this were closed as NOTABUG, but
tapping is useful for us (people who use it), I don't think it bothers
the
On 11/17/2014 01:49 PM, Björn Persson wrote:
Mustafa Muhammad mustafaa.alhamda...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, I am testing Fedora 21 beta and -like all previous versions- click
by tapping is off by default.
Several bug reports concerning this were closed as NOTABUG, but
tapping is useful for us
Mustafa Muhammad mustafaa.alhamda...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Björn Persson bjorn@rombobjörn.se wrote:
Perhaps demonstrate that it won't cause the rest of us to click on
random things by accident, instead of just thinking so?
I didn't say that, I said, I don't
On Monday, November 17, 2014, Björn Persson bjorn@rombobjörn.se wrote:
Mustafa Muhammad mustafaa.alhamda...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Björn Persson bjorn@rombobjörn.se
javascript:; wrote:
Perhaps demonstrate that it won't cause the rest of us to click
drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote:
Things are not black and white there is a disable touchpad while typing
option which would solve your problem while not making the impression that
something is broken like it is now.
Possibly, but there is also the risk of accidentally tapping when you
only
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Björn Persson bjorn@rombobjörn.se wrote:
drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote:
Things are not black and white there is a disable touchpad while typing
option which would solve your problem while not making the impression that
something is broken like it is now.
drago01 composed on 2014-11-17 16:53 (UTC+0100):
Björn Persson wrote:
Possibly, but there is also the risk of accidentally tapping when you
only want to move the pointer but your finger happens to tremble a
little. (That's not about Parkinson's disease. Even to perfectly healthy
people
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:27:53PM +0300, Mustafa Muhammad wrote:
Hi, I am testing Fedora 21 beta and -like all previous versions- click
by tapping is off by default.
Several bug reports concerning this were closed as NOTABUG, but
tapping is useful for us (people who use it), I don't think it
Björn Persson wrote:
Possibly, but there is also the risk of accidentally tapping when you
only want to move the pointer but your finger happens to tremble a
little. (That's not about Parkinson's disease. Even to perfectly healthy
people it's difficult to hold absolutely still.)
With tapping
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 12:16:26AM +0200, Nikos Roussos wrote:
On 11/18/2014 12:12 AM, Peter Hutterer wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:27:53PM +0300, Mustafa Muhammad wrote:
Hi, I am testing Fedora 21 beta and -like all previous versions- click
by tapping is off by default.
Several bug
Peter Hutterer composed on 2014-11-18 14:55 (UTC+1000):
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 12:16:26AM +0200, Nikos Roussos wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:27:53PM +0300, Mustafa Muhammad wrote:
on by default in most operating systems
and Linux distributions.
Well, in practice most users just
tis 2014-11-18 klockan 00:16 +0200 skrev Nikos Roussos:
On 11/18/2014 12:12 AM, Peter Hutterer wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:27:53PM +0300, Mustafa Muhammad wrote:
Hi, I am testing Fedora 21 beta and -like all previous versions- click
by tapping is off by default.
Several bug reports
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