On Sat, Aug 05, 2017 at 01:10:44PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> There seems to be a misunderstanding: I am not claiming that No-more-alphas
> was invented specifically for the short F27 schedule. I am only pointing out
> that the F27 schedule assumes No-more-alphas and that such a short schedule
Jan Kurik wrote:
> This is going to follow the Change process, so if at certain point in
> time the Change will not be ready it will go to FESCo to review the
> progress and weight risks and benefits of the Change. It is then up to
> FESCo to decide. Anyone from the Fedora community can join FESCo
On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:45 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 2:47 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
>>> Because it is a short release, we should focus on a few key changes and
>>> otherwise limit scope as much as possible. From my perspective, the
>>> things we should focus on this time a
> On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 2:47 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
>> Because it is a short release, we should focus on a few key changes and
>> otherwise limit scope as much as possible. From my perspective, the
>> things we should focus on this time around are infrastructure related:
>>
>> - enabling CI for
On Wed, 2017-08-02 at 11:02 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 10:49:58AM -0400, Owen Taylor wrote:
> > I've been pushing hard to have the infrastructure changes ready on
> > the F27 timescale, because we don't like to make unrelated
> > infrastructure changes during the later s
On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 10:49:58AM -0400, Owen Taylor wrote:
> I've been pushing hard to have the infrastructure changes ready on
> the F27 timescale, because we don't like to make unrelated
> infrastructure changes during the later stages of a release, and if
> we wait to land the things until aft
On Wed, 2017-08-02 at 09:31 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 03:03:29PM +0200, Jan Kurik wrote:
> > > Collectively, are there other F27 changes that seem really key to
> > > release this year? If possible, I'd like to target any bigger changes
> > > for F28 (or, unlink them fr
On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 03:03:29PM +0200, Jan Kurik wrote:
> > Collectively, are there other F27 changes that seem really key to
> > release this year? If possible, I'd like to target any bigger changes
> > for F28 (or, unlink them from the release itself).
>
> Checking the scope of the F27 [1] I
On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 2:47 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 01:24:21PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> It is really sad that FESCo is still maintaining this completely unrealistic
>> kamikaze schedule. We have seen from the fallout of the mass rebuild that
>> this is absolutely i