Re: HEADS-UP: Transition to guile-2.0.x and a new compat-guile1.8 package

2012-10-26 Thread Kevin Kofler
Bill Nottingham wrote: It causes problems for people who build things outside of chroots with straight rpmbuild, though, if they need to ever build different things with different buildreqs (even as test builds). Admittedly, we like to encourage people to use mock, but people will still hit

Re: HEADS-UP: Transition to guile-2.0.x and a new compat-guile1.8 package

2012-10-25 Thread Jan Synacek
On 10/23/2012 12:52 PM, Kalev Lember wrote: On 10/23/2012 12:12 PM, Jan Synacek wrote: This is what I had originally in mind. After trying to realize this idea and consulting it with the maintainer (I'm a comaintainer of guile), it didn't seem right. The problem is that a lot of things have

Re: HEADS-UP: Transition to guile-2.0.x and a new compat-guile1.8 package

2012-10-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2012-10-25 at 09:55 +0200, Jan Synacek wrote: Anyway, I think that neither of those solutions is far superior in any way. Maybe I could drop all the renaming in the compat package and make it conflict with guile-devel, but that there seems to be no agreement on whether it is or is

Re: HEADS-UP: Transition to guile-2.0.x and a new compat-guile1.8 package

2012-10-24 Thread Kalev Lember
On 10/23/2012 03:44 PM, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 12:52:47PM +0200, Kalev Lember wrote: Parallel installable guile interpreters: http://packages.debian.org/sid/amd64/guile-1.8/filelist http://packages.debian.org/sid/amd64/guile-2.0/filelist So both new and old guile

Re: HEADS-UP: Transition to guile-2.0.x and a new compat-guile1.8 package

2012-10-24 Thread Bill Nottingham
Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) said: Well, I don't mind doing that, but I'd like to be sure there's a broad consensus that this is the way to go first. I don't think 'duelling drafts' is the best way to decide on what direction to go; I'd rather make sure we agree on the direction

Re: HEADS-UP: Transition to guile-2.0.x and a new compat-guile1.8 package

2012-10-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2012-10-24 at 17:13 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) said: Well, I don't mind doing that, but I'd like to be sure there's a broad consensus that this is the way to go first. I don't think 'duelling drafts' is the best way to decide on what

Re: HEADS-UP: Transition to guile-2.0.x and a new compat-guile1.8 package

2012-10-23 Thread Kalev Lember
On 10/23/2012 08:51 AM, Jan Synacek wrote: Hello all, I've created a review request for compat-guile1.8: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=868263 Once the compat package lands in rawhide, I will leave some time for the transition (I may work on the required patches if time

Re: HEADS-UP: Transition to guile-2.0.x and a new compat-guile1.8 package

2012-10-23 Thread Jan Synacek
On 10/23/2012 11:15 AM, Kalev Lember wrote: On 10/23/2012 08:51 AM, Jan Synacek wrote: Hello all, I've created a review request for compat-guile1.8: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=868263 Once the compat package lands in rawhide, I will leave some time for the transition (I may

Re: HEADS-UP: Transition to guile-2.0.x and a new compat-guile1.8 package

2012-10-23 Thread Kalev Lember
On 10/23/2012 11:42 AM, Jan Synacek wrote: On 10/23/2012 11:15 AM, Kalev Lember wrote: On 10/23/2012 08:51 AM, Jan Synacek wrote: Hello all, I've created a review request for compat-guile1.8: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=868263 Once the compat package lands in rawhide, I

Re: HEADS-UP: Transition to guile-2.0.x and a new compat-guile1.8 package

2012-10-23 Thread Jan Synacek
On 10/23/2012 11:55 AM, Kalev Lember wrote: I agree, updating 21 packages is a bit too much at this point in F18 schedule. However, a way to make this work for F18 would be creating a parallel installable guile20 package. So instead of what you are planning now: guile-2.0.x

Re: HEADS-UP: Transition to guile-2.0.x and a new compat-guile1.8 package

2012-10-23 Thread Kalev Lember
On 10/23/2012 12:12 PM, Jan Synacek wrote: This is what I had originally in mind. After trying to realize this idea and consulting it with the maintainer (I'm a comaintainer of guile), it didn't seem right. The problem is that a lot of things have to be renamed, including some autotools

Re: HEADS-UP: Transition to guile-2.0.x and a new compat-guile1.8 package

2012-10-23 Thread Miroslav Lichvar
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 12:52:47PM +0200, Kalev Lember wrote: Parallel installable guile interpreters: http://packages.debian.org/sid/amd64/guile-1.8/filelist http://packages.debian.org/sid/amd64/guile-2.0/filelist So both new and old guile scripts need to be patched to call the right binary?

Re: HEADS-UP: Transition to guile-2.0.x and a new compat-guile1.8 package

2012-10-23 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 03:44:11PM +0200, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 12:52:47PM +0200, Kalev Lember wrote: Parallel installable guile interpreters: http://packages.debian.org/sid/amd64/guile-1.8/filelist http://packages.debian.org/sid/amd64/guile-2.0/filelist So both

Re: HEADS-UP: Transition to guile-2.0.x and a new compat-guile1.8 package

2012-10-23 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-10-23 at 12:17 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: Compat Package Conflicts It is acceptable to use Conflicts: in some cases involving compat packages. These are the cases where it is not feasible to patch applications to look in alternate locations for the -compat files, so the

Re: HEADS-UP: Transition to guile-2.0.x and a new compat-guile1.8 package

2012-10-23 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 02:58:28PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2012-10-23 at 12:17 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: Compat Package Conflicts It is acceptable to use Conflicts: in some cases involving compat packages. These are the cases where it is not feasible to patch

Re: HEADS-UP: Transition to guile-2.0.x and a new compat-guile1.8 package

2012-10-23 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-10-23 at 16:25 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 02:58:28PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2012-10-23 at 12:17 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: Compat Package Conflicts It is acceptable to use Conflicts: in some cases involving compat