Re: Nested rich-dependencies in rpm

2017-04-14 Thread Björn 'besser82' Esser
Am 14.04.2017 um 22:52 schrieb Rafal Luzynski: 13.04.2017 08:57 Björn 'besser82' Esser wrote: Am 13.04.2017 um 02:38 schrieb Rafal Luzynski: [...] Could it at least try to recognize the current desktop environment and prefer the matching backend rather than

Re: Nested rich-dependencies in rpm

2017-04-14 Thread Rafal Luzynski
13.04.2017 08:57 Björn 'besser82' Esser wrote: > > > Am 13.04.2017 um 02:38 schrieb Rafal Luzynski: > > [...] > > Could it at least try to recognize the current desktop environment > > and prefer the matching backend rather than loading them in this > > hardcoded

Re: Nested rich-dependencies in rpm

2017-04-14 Thread Kevin Kofler
Michael Catanzaro wrote: > libyui is used by YaST. I'm surprised to learn it's used by anything > else. At least Mageia uses it for all its tools. Kevin Kofler ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email

Re: Nested rich-dependencies in rpm

2017-04-13 Thread Björn 'besser82' Esser
Am 13.04.2017 um 02:38 schrieb Rafal Luzynski: 12.04.2017 18:20 Björn 'besser82' Esser wrote: [...] if TTY it instantly uses libyui-ncurses else it *tries* to load - and uses the first available - GUI-backend in the following order: libyui-qt libyui-gtk

Re: Nested rich-dependencies in rpm

2017-04-12 Thread Rafal Luzynski
12.04.2017 18:20 Björn 'besser82' Esser wrote: > [...] > if TTY it instantly uses libyui-ncurses > else it *tries* to load - and uses the first available - > GUI-backend in the following order: > > libyui-qt > libyui-gtk > libyui-ncurses Could it at least try to

Re: Nested rich-dependencies in rpm

2017-04-12 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 04/12/2017 01:34 PM, Björn 'besser82' Esser wrote: Libyui is a well tested and since 15 years proven to work toolkit / abstraction-layer written by SUSE, even used in SLES… It's powering their installer and system-configuration tooling. FWIW, dnfdragora currently crashes on startup and it

Re: Nested rich-dependencies in rpm

2017-04-12 Thread Björn 'besser82' Esser
Am 12.04.2017 um 19:35 schrieb Michael Catanzaro: On Wed, 2017-04-12 at 13:07 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: To throw in my 2c as gtk maintainer: I'd rather have a well-written qt app on my desktop than something that relies on fragile toolkit abstraction layers like this. Both gtk and qt are

Re: Nested rich-dependencies in rpm

2017-04-12 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, 2017-04-12 at 13:07 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > To throw in my 2c as gtk maintainer: I'd rather have a well-written > qt > app on my desktop than something that relies on fragile toolkit > abstraction layers like this. Both gtk and qt are already > abstractions. > Adding another one on

Re: Nested rich-dependencies in rpm

2017-04-12 Thread Björn 'besser82' Esser
Am 12.04.2017 um 19:07 schrieb Matthias Clasen: On Wed, 2017-04-12 at 18:20 +0200, Björn 'besser82' Esser wrote: @Björn: Do you know how libyui chooses the toolkit? Yes. Libyui performs a check on init of ui whether it's running on a TTY or not: if TTY it instantly uses libyui-ncurses

Re: Nested rich-dependencies in rpm

2017-04-12 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2017-04-12 at 18:20 +0200, Björn 'besser82' Esser wrote: > > > > > @Björn: Do you know how libyui chooses the toolkit? > > Yes.  Libyui performs a check on init of ui whether it's running on > a  > TTY or not: > >  if TTY it instantly uses libyui-ncurses >  else it *tries* to

Re: Nested rich-dependencies in rpm

2017-04-12 Thread Björn 'besser82' Esser
Am 12.04.2017 um 18:05 schrieb Christian Dersch: On 04/12/2017 05:59 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 10:41:52AM -0500, Dan Williams wrote: It's not uncommon to have any or all of GTK, GNOME, and KDE installed at the same time. What libyui-* does dnfdragora use? What

Re: Nested rich-dependencies in rpm

2017-04-12 Thread Christian Dersch
On 04/12/2017 06:05 PM, Christian Dersch wrote: On 04/12/2017 05:59 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 10:41:52AM -0500, Dan Williams wrote: It's not uncommon to have any or all of GTK, GNOME, and KDE installed at the same time. What libyui-* does dnfdragora use? What happens

Re: Nested rich-dependencies in rpm

2017-04-12 Thread Christian Dersch
On 04/12/2017 05:59 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 10:41:52AM -0500, Dan Williams wrote: It's not uncommon to have any or all of GTK, GNOME, and KDE installed at the same time. What libyui-* does dnfdragora use? What happens if both libyui-gtk and libyui-qt are installed,

Re: Nested rich-dependencies in rpm

2017-04-12 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 10:41:52AM -0500, Dan Williams wrote: > It's not uncommon to have any or all of GTK, GNOME, and KDE installed > at the same time. What libyui-* does dnfdragora use? What happens if > both libyui-gtk and libyui-qt are installed, which one gets picked? I can answer that,

Re: Nested rich-dependencies in rpm

2017-04-12 Thread Dan Williams
On Wed, 2017-04-12 at 16:28 +0200, Christian Dersch wrote: > On 04/12/2017 04:19 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 02:56:24PM +0200, Christian Dersch wrote: > > > > On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 11:08:46AM +0200, Björn 'besser82' > > > > Esser wrote: > > > > > I hope someone can help

Re: Nested rich-dependencies in rpm

2017-04-12 Thread Björn 'besser82' Esser
Am 12.04.2017 um 16:28 schrieb Christian Dersch: On 04/12/2017 04:19 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 02:56:24PM +0200, Christian Dersch wrote: On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 11:08:46AM +0200, Björn 'besser82' Esser wrote: I hope someone can help me with the following question: Does

Re: Nested rich-dependencies in rpm

2017-04-12 Thread Christian Dersch
On 04/12/2017 04:19 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 02:56:24PM +0200, Christian Dersch wrote: On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 11:08:46AM +0200, Björn 'besser82' Esser wrote: I hope someone can help me with the following question: Does recent Fedora's rpm support nested

Re: Nested rich-dependencies in rpm

2017-04-12 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 02:56:24PM +0200, Christian Dersch wrote: > >On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 11:08:46AM +0200, Björn 'besser82' Esser wrote: > >>I hope someone can help me with the following question: > >>Does recent Fedora's rpm support nested rich-dependencies like: > >> Supplements: (pkg_a

Re: Nested rich-dependencies in rpm

2017-04-12 Thread Christian Dersch
On 04/12/2017 02:51 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 11:08:46AM +0200, Björn 'besser82' Esser wrote: I hope someone can help me with the following question: Does recent Fedora's rpm support nested rich-dependencies like: Supplements: (pkg_a and pkg_b and pkg_c and (pkg_d or

Re: Nested rich-dependencies in rpm

2017-04-12 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 11:08:46AM +0200, Björn 'besser82' Esser wrote: > I hope someone can help me with the following question: > Does recent Fedora's rpm support nested rich-dependencies like: > Supplements: (pkg_a and pkg_b and pkg_c and (pkg_d or pkg_e)) > Is there any way to express a

Re: Nested rich-dependencies in rpm

2017-04-12 Thread Björn 'besser82' Esser
Am 12.04.2017 um 13:58 schrieb Neal Gompa: On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 7:56 AM, Björn 'besser82' Esser wrote: Am 12.04.2017 um 12:16 schrieb Neal Gompa: On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 5:08 AM, Björn 'besser82' Esser wrote: Hello folks, I hope

Re: Nested rich-dependencies in rpm

2017-04-12 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 7:56 AM, Björn 'besser82' Esser wrote: > Am 12.04.2017 um 12:16 schrieb Neal Gompa: >> >> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 5:08 AM, Björn 'besser82' Esser >> wrote: >>> >>> Hello folks, >>> >>> I hope someone can help me with

Re: Nested rich-dependencies in rpm

2017-04-12 Thread Björn 'besser82' Esser
Am 12.04.2017 um 12:16 schrieb Neal Gompa: On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 5:08 AM, Björn 'besser82' Esser wrote: Hello folks, I hope someone can help me with the following question: Does recent Fedora's rpm support nested rich-dependencies like: Supplements: (pkg_a

Re: Nested rich-dependencies in rpm

2017-04-12 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 5:08 AM, Björn 'besser82' Esser wrote: > Hello folks, > > I hope someone can help me with the following question: > Does recent Fedora's rpm support nested rich-dependencies like: > > Supplements: (pkg_a and pkg_b and pkg_c and (pkg_d or