Re: Orphaning nm-tray

2019-11-19 Thread Kevin Kofler
Sérgio Basto wrote:
> I use nm-applet instead plasma-nm in my kde and nm-applet just enforce
> libgobject , libgtk3 , libmm-glib, libpango, libpangocairo and
> nm-connection-editor [1]
> 
> [1]
> dnf repoquery --requires network-manager-applet

We were not talking about things required by network-manager-applet, but 
about things REQUIRING network-manager-applet, which should not happen.

At least here on F29 KDE:
[kevin@desktop64 ~]$ LANG=C.UTF-8 rpm -q network-manager-applet
package network-manager-applet is not installed

So I don't know what Raphael means by "There's indeed not much sense to have 
another tray icon when NetworkManager itself places anyways (by enforced 
dependencies) its own icon aside."

Kevin Kofler
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Re: Orphaning nm-tray

2019-11-19 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Wed, 2019-11-20 at 02:56 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Raphael Groner wrote:
> > Right, we've planned to use nm-tray for the LXQt spin. But the
> > package is
> > already removed because it never worked as it should. There's
> > indeed not
> > much sense to have another tray icon when NetworkManager itself
> > places
> > anyways (by enforced dependencies) its own icon aside.
> 
> What is enforcing a dependency on nm-applet (NetworkManager-gnome)?
> Any such 
> dependency is a bug. (I had successfully gotten all such
> dependencies 
> eradicated as part of my Kannolo work, but some may have snuck back
> in 
> again, grrr!)


I use nm-applet instead plasma-nm in my kde and nm-applet just enforce
libgobject , libgtk3 , libmm-glib, libpango, libpangocairo and 
nm-connection-editor [1]

[1]
dnf repoquery --requires network-manager-applet

-- 
Sérgio M. B.
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Re: Orphaning nm-tray

2019-11-19 Thread Kevin Kofler
Raphael Groner wrote:
> Right, we've planned to use nm-tray for the LXQt spin. But the package is
> already removed because it never worked as it should. There's indeed not
> much sense to have another tray icon when NetworkManager itself places
> anyways (by enforced dependencies) its own icon aside.

What is enforcing a dependency on nm-applet (NetworkManager-gnome)? Any such 
dependency is a bug. (I had successfully gotten all such dependencies 
eradicated as part of my Kannolo work, but some may have snuck back in 
again, grrr!)

Kevin Kofler
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Re: Orphaning nm-tray

2019-11-19 Thread Raphael Groner
…
> But LXDE and nm-applet are GTK, LXQt and nm-tray are Qt.

Right, we've planned to use nm-tray for the LXQt spin. But the package is 
already removed because it never worked as it should. There's indeed not much 
sense to have another tray icon when NetworkManager itself places anyways (by 
enforced dependencies) its own icon aside.

~Raphael
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Re: Orphaning nm-tray

2019-11-16 Thread Kevin Kofler
Artur Iwicki wrote:

> Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> I think it is of use to users of non-GNOME, non-Plasma desktops,
>> especially Qt ones (in particular, LXQt).
> 
> Anecdotes are not evidence and all that, but I use LXDE on my laptop and
> don't have nm-tray installed. I have nm-applet, which also provides a tray
> icon/menu. I don't recall ever tinkering with those, so if my memory
> serves me right, LXDE does not use nm-tray, choosing nm-applet instead.

But LXDE and nm-applet are GTK, LXQt and nm-tray are Qt.

Kevin Kofler
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Re: Orphaning nm-tray

2019-11-16 Thread Artur Iwicki
Kevin Kofler wrote:
> I think it is of use to users of non-GNOME, non-Plasma desktops,
> especially Qt ones (in particular, LXQt).

Anecdotes are not evidence and all that, but I use LXDE on my laptop and don't 
have nm-tray installed. I have nm-applet, which also provides a tray icon/menu. 
I don't recall ever tinkering with those, so if my memory serves me right, LXDE 
does not use nm-tray, choosing nm-applet instead.
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Re: Orphaning nm-tray

2019-11-15 Thread Kevin Kofler
Raphael Groner wrote:
> I'll orphan the package nm-tray due to not in active usage nor
> development.
> 
> Currently FTBFS:
>   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1754157
> 
> Please feel free to pick the package if you still think it's of any
> usefulness in Fedora.

I think it is of use to users of non-GNOME, non-Plasma desktops, especially 
Qt ones (in particular, LXQt). Or does LXQt has its own thing now?

But since I use Plasma and plasma-nm on all my machines, I don't really have 
a use for nm-tray personally, so I'd rather not pick it up myself.

Kevin Kofler
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