Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Yum Groups as Objects

2013-01-29 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Monday 28 of January 2013 10:12:29 Stephen Gallagher wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon 28 Jan 2013 09:43:56 AM EST, Jan Zelený wrote: On 28. 1. 2013 at 08:21:57, Stephen Gallagher wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/28/2013 07:58

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Yum Groups as Objects

2013-01-29 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:31:33 -0500 James Antill ja...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 15:04 +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 12:58:56PM +, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: = Features/YumGroupsAsObjects =

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Yum Groups as Objects

2013-01-28 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/28/2013 07:58 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: = Features/YumGroupsAsObjects = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/YumGroupsAsObjects Feature owner(s): James Antill ja...@fedoraproject.org Change the default yum configuration from

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Yum Groups as Objects

2013-01-28 Thread Jan Zelený
On 28. 1. 2013 at 08:21:57, Stephen Gallagher wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/28/2013 07:58 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: = Features/YumGroupsAsObjects https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/YumGroupsAsObjects Feature owner(s): James Antill

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Yum Groups as Objects

2013-01-28 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 12:58:56PM +, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: = Features/YumGroupsAsObjects = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/YumGroupsAsObjects I don't have an immediate better suggestion, but with my Fedora end user hat on Yum groups as objects is essentially meaningless as a

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Yum Groups as Objects

2013-01-28 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon 28 Jan 2013 09:43:56 AM EST, Jan Zelený wrote: On 28. 1. 2013 at 08:21:57, Stephen Gallagher wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/28/2013 07:58 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: = Features/YumGroupsAsObjects =

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Yum Groups as Objects

2013-01-28 Thread Kamil Dudka
On Monday 28 January 2013 13:58:56 Jaroslav Reznik wrote: = Features/YumGroupsAsObjects = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/YumGroupsAsObjects Feature owner(s): James Antill ja...@fedoraproject.org Change the default yum configuration from group_command=compat to

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Yum Groups as Objects

2013-01-28 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 16:52:18 +0100, Kamil Dudka kdu...@redhat.com wrote: I have been always wondering why yum needs a special set of commands to manipulate groups of packages. What would be the downside of using just packages that install no files (a.k.a. meta-packages) instead of

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Yum Groups as Objects

2013-01-28 Thread Kamil Dudka
On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:26:01 Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 16:52:18 +0100, Kamil Dudka kdu...@redhat.com wrote: I have been always wondering why yum needs a special set of commands to manipulate groups of packages. What would be the downside of using just

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Yum Groups as Objects

2013-01-28 Thread Casey Dahlin
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:26:01AM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 16:52:18 +0100, Kamil Dudka kdu...@redhat.com wrote: I have been always wondering why yum needs a special set of commands to manipulate groups of packages. What would be the downside of using just

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Yum Groups as Objects

2013-01-28 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:49:50 +0100 Kamil Dudka kdu...@redhat.com wrote: On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:26:01 Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 16:52:18 +0100, Kamil Dudka kdu...@redhat.com wrote: I have been always wondering why yum needs a special set of commands to

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Yum Groups as Objects

2013-01-28 Thread Kamil Dudka
On Monday, January 28, 2013 11:58:00 Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:49:50 +0100 Kamil Dudka kdu...@redhat.com wrote: On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:26:01 Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 16:52:18 +0100, Kamil Dudka kdu...@redhat.com wrote: I have been

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Yum Groups as Objects

2013-01-28 Thread James Antill
On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 15:04 +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 12:58:56PM +, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: = Features/YumGroupsAsObjects = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/YumGroupsAsObjects I don't have an immediate better suggestion, but with my Fedora end user

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Yum Groups as Objects

2013-01-28 Thread James Antill
On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 08:21 -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: This doesn't really seem like the optimal solution here. It seems to me that it might be a better solution that you note which groups were installed and then at 'yum group remove foo' you remove any packages in it that are not ALSO

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Yum Groups as Objects

2013-01-28 Thread James Antill
On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 13:53 -0500, Casey Dahlin wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:26:01AM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 16:52:18 +0100, Kamil Dudka kdu...@redhat.com wrote: I have been always wondering why yum needs a special set of commands to manipulate

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Yum Groups as Objects

2013-01-28 Thread Kamil Dudka
On Monday, January 28, 2013 17:42:16 James Antill wrote: On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 13:53 -0500, Casey Dahlin wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:26:01AM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 16:52:18 +0100, Kamil Dudka kdu...@redhat.com wrote: I have been always