Re: Why do we have a kernel with version number - 20X?

2013-01-22 Thread Przemek Klosowski

On 01/19/2013 05:50 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote


The hundreds series is speific to the fedora version. Currently
f17 is 1xx and f18 is 2xx. The purpose is to keep f18 versions
ahead of f17 versions so that updates will work better.

..

Presumably as new kernels come out the base number will change to
reflect the currently supported versions of Fedora. So that for the
3.9 kernel, f18  will probably be 1xx and f19 2xx.



That's a pretty arcane scheme. Would it work to use 17xx, 18xx and 19xx 
instead?

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Re: Why do we have a kernel with version number - 20X?

2013-01-22 Thread Bruno Wolff III

On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 14:13:23 -0500,
  Przemek Klosowski przemek.klosow...@nist.gov wrote:

On 01/19/2013 05:50 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote


The hundreds series is speific to the fedora version. Currently
f17 is 1xx and f18 is 2xx. The purpose is to keep f18 versions
ahead of f17 versions so that updates will work better.

..

Presumably as new kernels come out the base number will change to
reflect the currently supported versions of Fedora. So that for the
3.9 kernel, f18  will probably be 1xx and f19 2xx.



That's a pretty arcane scheme. Would it work to use 17xx, 18xx and 
19xx instead?


Probably. Putting the release after the dist tag would also probably 
work.

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Re: Why do we have a kernel with version number - 20X?

2013-01-22 Thread Chris Murphy

On Jan 22, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Przemek Klosowski przemek.klosow...@nist.gov 
wrote:

 On 01/19/2013 05:50 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote
 
 The hundreds series is speific to the fedora version. Currently
 f17 is 1xx and f18 is 2xx. The purpose is to keep f18 versions
 ahead of f17 versions so that updates will work better.
 ..
 Presumably as new kernels come out the base number will change to
 reflect the currently supported versions of Fedora. So that for the
 3.9 kernel, f18  will probably be 1xx and f19 2xx.
 
 
 That's a pretty arcane scheme. Would it work to use 17xx, 18xx and 19xx 
 instead?

7xx, 8xx, 9xx, 0xx,

The first number of a Fedora release seems mostly superfluous.

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Re: Why do we have a kernel with version number - 20X?

2013-01-22 Thread Josh Stone
On 01/22/2013 11:28 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
 7xx, 8xx, 9xx, 0xx,
 
 The first number of a Fedora release seems mostly superfluous.

9xx-0xx breaks the goal that updates will work better.
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Re: Why do we have a kernel with version number - 20X?

2013-01-22 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 11:44:11AM -0800, Josh Stone wrote:
  7xx, 8xx, 9xx, 0xx,
  The first number of a Fedora release seems mostly superfluous.
 9xx-0xx breaks the goal that updates will work better.

Also would be unnecessarily confusing. It's not like we're running out of
numbers here.

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Re: Why do we have a kernel with version number - 20X?

2013-01-22 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 01:23:44PM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 14:13:23 -0500,
   Przemek Klosowski przemek.klosow...@nist.gov wrote:
 On 01/19/2013 05:50 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote
 
 The hundreds series is speific to the fedora version. Currently
 f17 is 1xx and f18 is 2xx. The purpose is to keep f18 versions
 ahead of f17 versions so that updates will work better.
 ..
 Presumably as new kernels come out the base number will change to
 reflect the currently supported versions of Fedora. So that for the
 3.9 kernel, f18  will probably be 1xx and f19 2xx.
 
 
 That's a pretty arcane scheme. Would it work to use 17xx, 18xx and
 19xx instead?
 
 Probably. Putting the release after the dist tag would also probably
 work.

We're not changing it again.  It's just a number.  The only reason
anyone even noticed is because it was a jump, but we've already been
doing this for months.

josh
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Re: Why do we have a kernel with version number - 20X?

2013-01-22 Thread Peter Robinson
On 22 Jan 2013 20:35, Josh Boyer jwbo...@redhat.com wrote:

 On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 01:23:44PM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
  On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 14:13:23 -0500,
Przemek Klosowski przemek.klosow...@nist.gov wrote:
  On 01/19/2013 05:50 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote
  
  The hundreds series is speific to the fedora version. Currently
  f17 is 1xx and f18 is 2xx. The purpose is to keep f18 versions
  ahead of f17 versions so that updates will work better.
  ..
  Presumably as new kernels come out the base number will change to
  reflect the currently supported versions of Fedora. So that for the
  3.9 kernel, f18  will probably be 1xx and f19 2xx.
  
  
  That's a pretty arcane scheme. Would it work to use 17xx, 18xx and
  19xx instead?
 
  Probably. Putting the release after the dist tag would also probably
  work.

 We're not changing it again.  It's just a number.  The only reason
 anyone even noticed is because it was a jump, but we've already been
 doing this for months.

I agree. We really don't need a discussion as to the colour of the bike,
the people who are maintaining shed have made the decision it will work.

Peter
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Re: Why do we have a kernel with version number - 20X?

2013-01-19 Thread Veeti Paananen
On 01/19/2013 12:55 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 5:51 PM, Joshua C. joshua...@gmail.com wrote:
 Some  days ago the version number for the f18-kernels was changed to
 20x as in kernel-3.7.3-205.fc18. Is there a special reason for this?
 Are the first 200 numbers reserved for something?
 
 Yes, read the kernel meeting notes and I believe an explanation was
 posted to devel too.
 
 Peter

And for those as lazy as I am:

http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/kernel/2013-January/004061.html

 The hundreds series is speific to the fedora version. Currently f17 is
 1xx and f18 is 2xx. The purpose is to keep f18 versions ahead of f17
 versions so that updates will work better.

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Re: Why do we have a kernel with version number - 20X?

2013-01-18 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 5:51 PM, Joshua C. joshua...@gmail.com wrote:
 Some  days ago the version number for the f18-kernels was changed to
 20x as in kernel-3.7.3-205.fc18. Is there a special reason for this?
 Are the first 200 numbers reserved for something?

Yes, read the kernel meeting notes and I believe an explanation was
posted to devel too.

Peter
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