Re: cups service gone walkabouts?
On 06/07/11 10:19, Paul F. Johnson wrote: It seems that after yesterdays (5th July) mammoth rawhide update, that the cups daemon has vanished from /etc/init.d - any idea if this is just an oversight? I would guess (given that Lennart used it as his example in his recent article) that it has been converted to be a native systemd service. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: cups service gone walkabouts?
Hi, It seems that after yesterdays (5th July) mammoth rawhide update, that the cups daemon has vanished from /etc/init.d - any idea if this is just an oversight? I would guess (given that Lennart used it as his example in his recent article) that it has been converted to be a native systemd service. Ah. Looks like I may need to bz it as unless I run /usr/sbin/cupsd -F from a terminal, the service isn't starting. s-c-services and s-c-printer isn't showing anything. Should I put it under cups or systemd? PFJ -- Vertraue mir, ich weiss, was ich mache... -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: cups service gone walkabouts?
On Wed, 06 Jul 2011 10:19:46 +0100 Paul F. Johnson wrote: It seems that after yesterdays (5th July) mammoth rawhide update, that the cups daemon has vanished from /etc/init.d - any idea if this is just an oversight? * Wed Jun 29 2011 Tim Waugh twa...@redhat.com 1:1.5-0.9.rc1 - Ship systemd service unit instead of SysV initscript (bug #690766). -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: cups service gone walkabouts?
On 06/07/11 10:25, Paul F. Johnson wrote: I would guess (given that Lennart used it as his example in his recent article) that it has been converted to be a native systemd service. Ah. Looks like I may need to bz it as unless I run /usr/sbin/cupsd -F from a terminal, the service isn't starting. s-c-services and s-c-printer isn't showing anything. Well first of all I'd check it's enabled as I believe policy is that the enabled/disabled state of a service is not carried over when it migrates from svsvinit to systemd. So a systemctl enable cups.service might be the best thing to try first - certainly my rawhide VM seems to have had it disabled. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: cups service gone walkabouts?
On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 10:19 +0100, Paul F. Johnson wrote: Hi, It seems that after yesterdays (5th July) mammoth rawhide update, that the cups daemon has vanished from /etc/init.d - any idea if this is just an oversight? Looks like it migrated to native systemd configuration: http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=cups.git;a=commitdiff;h=b7d9a11244c22bd7e2ea4590f78a7a22852871b2 -- Mathieu -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: cups service gone walkabouts?
On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 10:30 +0100, Tom Hughes wrote: Well first of all I'd check it's enabled as I believe policy is that the enabled/disabled state of a service is not carried over when it migrates from svsvinit to systemd. Correct, and I haven't pursued getting an exception for cups so that it can automatically be enabled. Did we decide in the end that default service enabling should happen as part of a spin's kickstart, or does it need to be in the package? Tim. */ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: cups service gone walkabouts?
On 07/06/2011 11:18 AM, Tim Waugh wrote: On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 10:30 +0100, Tom Hughes wrote: Well first of all I'd check it's enabled as I believe policy is that the enabled/disabled state of a service is not carried over when it migrates from svsvinit to systemd. Correct, and I haven't pursued getting an exception for cups so that it can automatically be enabled. Did we decide in the end that default service enabling should happen as part of a spin's kickstart, or does it need to be in the package? Hum.. I thought with Lennart patch/setup on his blog the only case you need to enable cups is if you are going to be running centralized printer server which in that case the admin himself would enabled it hence we would not have to have it enabled by default... JBG -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: cups service gone walkabouts?
On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 11:32 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: I thought with Lennart patch/setup on his blog the only case you need to enable cups is if you are going to be running centralized printer server which in that case the admin himself would enabled it hence we would not have to have it enabled by default... Yes, you're quite right, my mistake. Tim. */ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: cups service gone walkabouts?
On 06/07/11 13:27, Tim Waugh wrote: On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 11:32 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: I thought with Lennart patch/setup on his blog the only case you need to enable cups is if you are going to be running centralized printer server which in that case the admin himself would enabled it hence we would not have to have it enabled by default... Yes, you're quite right, my mistake. Except that the cups package only seems to have the service unit and not the socket or path units so socket activation won't work at the moment. I had assumed that was deliberate, but maybe not? Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: cups service gone walkabouts?
On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 13:38 +0100, Tom Hughes wrote: I had assumed that was deliberate, but maybe not? Try today's rawhide. Tim. */ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: cups service gone walkabouts?
Am 06.07.2011 11:19, schrieb Paul F. Johnson: Hi, It seems that after yesterdays (5th July) mammoth rawhide update, that the cups daemon has vanished from /etc/init.d - any idea if this is just an oversight? sounds like the switch to systemd started good! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: cups service gone walkabouts?
On 07/06/2011 09:21 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 06.07.2011 11:19, schrieb Paul F. Johnson: Hi, It seems that after yesterdays (5th July) mammoth rawhide update, that the cups daemon has vanished from /etc/init.d - any idea if this is just an oversight? sounds like the switch to systemd started good! The development cycle is exactly to catch any potential issues like this and the sooner we have those native service files out there the better. So I propose that instead of you complaining here on the list you help out in the migration progress and start converting legacy sysv init scripts to a native systemd service files. If you are uncapable of doing that I suggest that you keep these sarcastic remarks of yours to yourself and off list. Thanks JBG -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: cups service gone walkabouts?
On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 15:00 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 07/06/2011 09:21 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 06.07.2011 11:19, schrieb Paul F. Johnson: Hi, It seems that after yesterdays (5th July) mammoth rawhide update, that the cups daemon has vanished from /etc/init.d - any idea if this is just an oversight? sounds like the switch to systemd started good! The development cycle is exactly to catch any potential issues like this and the sooner we have those native service files out there the better. So I propose that instead of you complaining here on the list you help out in the migration progress and start converting legacy sysv init scripts to a native systemd service files. If you are uncapable of doing that I suggest that you keep these sarcastic remarks of yours to yourself and off list. erm, I didn't read the initial post as at all sarcastic. I think you're over-interpreting. Reindl simply suggested why the SysV definition had disappeared - sounds like the switch to systemd started - and gave an opinion - good!. I can't see any reason to interpret the opinion as sarcasm. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
