Re: when will bodhi (updates) recognize fc31/f31 updates

2019-08-19 Thread Clement Verna
On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 at 22:33, Kevin Fenzi  wrote:
>
> On 8/15/19 7:44 AM, Alexander Bokovoy wrote:
> > On to, 15 elo 2019, Kaleb Keithley wrote:
> >> On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 10:21 AM Alexander Bokovoy 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On to, 15 elo 2019, Kaleb Keithley wrote:
> >>> >I've tried to submit a build on f31 to testing, using both the cli
> >>> and via
> >>> >the web site, and both are failing
> >>> >
> >>> >On the web site I get a popup with: Builds : Cannot find release
> >>> associated
> >>> >with build: nfs-ganesha-2.8.2-5.fc31, tags: ['f31']
> >>> >
> >>> >fedpkg update gets: Could not execute update: Could not generate update
> >>> >request: Cannot find release associated with build:
> >>> >nfs-ganesha-2.8.2-5.fc31, tags: ['f31']
> >>> My understanding is that F31 doesn't need bodhi right now -- all
> >>> packages built for it appear in the distro, as with rawhide before.
> >>>
> >>> Branched will get bodhi activated later this month.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Well, it's confusing (to me anyway), because before branching, new
> >> f31/rawhide builds showed up automatically as "stable" in bodhi.
> >>
> >> And now new f32/rawhide builds show up automatically as "stable."
> >>
> >> Making me wonder what is status of the new f31 build(s) I've just done?
> >> They don't show up in bodhi at all.
> > Yes, Bodhi activation for a Branched is marked in the schedule
> > separately. This was noted in the mass branching email:
> >
> > --
> > Bodhi is currently not active for Fedora 31, it will be enabled in
> > couple of weeks time when we hit Beta change freeze point in the Fedora
> > 31 schedule[1].
> >
> > [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/31/Schedule
> > --
> >
> > A confusion is probably because at the same time Gating in Rawhide was
> > introduced. Gating in Rawhide relies on Bodhi, so there is Bodhi for
> > F32. I think we could have made Bodhi for F31 with automated acceptance
> > of the packages more visible but it might have been postponed to the
> > "Bodhi activation point" altogether.
>
> Yeah, it's been confusing for sure. :(
>
> Right now rawhide (f32) is doing gating as it was before.
>
> Branched (f31) is acting like rawhide used to, pre gating (ie, builds
> are just signed and added)

I just opened a PR to the releng SOP
(https://pagure.io/releng/pull-request/8651), so that the branched
release (f31) behave like rawhide in bodhi (Gated) until we activate
it properly (2 weeks after branching).

>
> I would expect branched to also do gating, so I think we should move it
> to that.
>
> Or, we could just decide to enable bodhi for good at branching. The
> reason we didn't do this before was that its more stuff for releng to
> deal with at branching, and the 2 weeks give people time to get builds
> in fast to finish up things they know for sure they want to get into the
> branched release. It might just be a lot less confusing to enable it tho.
>
> kevin
>
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Re: when will bodhi (updates) recognize fc31/f31 updates

2019-08-15 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 8/15/19 7:44 AM, Alexander Bokovoy wrote:
> On to, 15 elo 2019, Kaleb Keithley wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 10:21 AM Alexander Bokovoy 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On to, 15 elo 2019, Kaleb Keithley wrote:
>>> >I've tried to submit a build on f31 to testing, using both the cli
>>> and via
>>> >the web site, and both are failing
>>> >
>>> >On the web site I get a popup with: Builds : Cannot find release
>>> associated
>>> >with build: nfs-ganesha-2.8.2-5.fc31, tags: ['f31']
>>> >
>>> >fedpkg update gets: Could not execute update: Could not generate update
>>> >request: Cannot find release associated with build:
>>> >nfs-ganesha-2.8.2-5.fc31, tags: ['f31']
>>> My understanding is that F31 doesn't need bodhi right now -- all
>>> packages built for it appear in the distro, as with rawhide before.
>>>
>>> Branched will get bodhi activated later this month.
>>>
>>
>> Well, it's confusing (to me anyway), because before branching, new
>> f31/rawhide builds showed up automatically as "stable" in bodhi.
>>
>> And now new f32/rawhide builds show up automatically as "stable."
>>
>> Making me wonder what is status of the new f31 build(s) I've just done?
>> They don't show up in bodhi at all.
> Yes, Bodhi activation for a Branched is marked in the schedule
> separately. This was noted in the mass branching email:
> 
> --
> Bodhi is currently not active for Fedora 31, it will be enabled in
> couple of weeks time when we hit Beta change freeze point in the Fedora
> 31 schedule[1].
> 
> [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/31/Schedule
> --
> 
> A confusion is probably because at the same time Gating in Rawhide was
> introduced. Gating in Rawhide relies on Bodhi, so there is Bodhi for
> F32. I think we could have made Bodhi for F31 with automated acceptance
> of the packages more visible but it might have been postponed to the
> "Bodhi activation point" altogether.

Yeah, it's been confusing for sure. :(

Right now rawhide (f32) is doing gating as it was before.

Branched (f31) is acting like rawhide used to, pre gating (ie, builds
are just signed and added)

I would expect branched to also do gating, so I think we should move it
to that.

Or, we could just decide to enable bodhi for good at branching. The
reason we didn't do this before was that its more stuff for releng to
deal with at branching, and the 2 weeks give people time to get builds
in fast to finish up things they know for sure they want to get into the
branched release. It might just be a lot less confusing to enable it tho.

kevin



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Re: when will bodhi (updates) recognize fc31/f31 updates

2019-08-15 Thread Alexander Bokovoy

On to, 15 elo 2019, Kaleb Keithley wrote:

On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 10:21 AM Alexander Bokovoy 
wrote:


On to, 15 elo 2019, Kaleb Keithley wrote:
>I've tried to submit a build on f31 to testing, using both the cli and via
>the web site, and both are failing
>
>On the web site I get a popup with: Builds : Cannot find release
associated
>with build: nfs-ganesha-2.8.2-5.fc31, tags: ['f31']
>
>fedpkg update gets: Could not execute update: Could not generate update
>request: Cannot find release associated with build:
>nfs-ganesha-2.8.2-5.fc31, tags: ['f31']
My understanding is that F31 doesn't need bodhi right now -- all
packages built for it appear in the distro, as with rawhide before.

Branched will get bodhi activated later this month.



Well, it's confusing (to me anyway), because before branching, new
f31/rawhide builds showed up automatically as "stable" in bodhi.

And now new f32/rawhide builds show up automatically as "stable."

Making me wonder what is status of the new f31 build(s) I've just done?
They don't show up in bodhi at all.

Yes, Bodhi activation for a Branched is marked in the schedule
separately. This was noted in the mass branching email:

--
Bodhi is currently not active for Fedora 31, it will be enabled in
couple of weeks time when we hit Beta change freeze point in the Fedora
31 schedule[1].

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/31/Schedule
--

A confusion is probably because at the same time Gating in Rawhide was
introduced. Gating in Rawhide relies on Bodhi, so there is Bodhi for
F32. I think we could have made Bodhi for F31 with automated acceptance
of the packages more visible but it might have been postponed to the
"Bodhi activation point" altogether.

--
/ Alexander Bokovoy
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Re: when will bodhi (updates) recognize fc31/f31 updates

2019-08-15 Thread Kaleb Keithley
On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 10:21 AM Alexander Bokovoy 
wrote:

> On to, 15 elo 2019, Kaleb Keithley wrote:
> >I've tried to submit a build on f31 to testing, using both the cli and via
> >the web site, and both are failing
> >
> >On the web site I get a popup with: Builds : Cannot find release
> associated
> >with build: nfs-ganesha-2.8.2-5.fc31, tags: ['f31']
> >
> >fedpkg update gets: Could not execute update: Could not generate update
> >request: Cannot find release associated with build:
> >nfs-ganesha-2.8.2-5.fc31, tags: ['f31']
> My understanding is that F31 doesn't need bodhi right now -- all
> packages built for it appear in the distro, as with rawhide before.
>
> Branched will get bodhi activated later this month.
>

Well, it's confusing (to me anyway), because before branching, new
f31/rawhide builds showed up automatically as "stable" in bodhi.

And now new f32/rawhide builds show up automatically as "stable."

Making me wonder what is status of the new f31 build(s) I've just done?
They don't show up in bodhi at all.

--

Kaleb
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Re: when will bodhi (updates) recognize fc31/f31 updates

2019-08-15 Thread Alexander Bokovoy

On to, 15 elo 2019, Kaleb Keithley wrote:

I've tried to submit a build on f31 to testing, using both the cli and via
the web site, and both are failing

On the web site I get a popup with: Builds : Cannot find release associated
with build: nfs-ganesha-2.8.2-5.fc31, tags: ['f31']

fedpkg update gets: Could not execute update: Could not generate update
request: Cannot find release associated with build:
nfs-ganesha-2.8.2-5.fc31, tags: ['f31']

My understanding is that F31 doesn't need bodhi right now -- all
packages built for it appear in the distro, as with rawhide before.

Branched will get bodhi activated later this month.

--
/ Alexander Bokovoy
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