Re: Request for testing: dbus-broker as system and user bus

[Tom Gundersen]

On Fri, Mar 23, 2018, 6:11 PM Kevin Fenzi  wrote:

> On 03/23/2018 04:24 AM, Tom Gundersen wrote:
> > Hi Kevin,
> >
> > Thanks for testing!
> >
> > We attempted to keep the logging to a minimum, in particular we try to
> only
> > log in case of a potential problem.
> >
> > The main log message is terse, but we include a lot of metadata (and we
> are
> > open to adding more). Query the journal with `-o verbose` to see more
> > information.
>
> Ah ha. Yep. That gives the sort of info I was looking for.
>
> Might mention that in the man pages or README or change page.
>

Indeed, will do!

Cheers,

Tom

>
> Thanks!
>
> kevin
>
>
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Re: Request for testing: dbus-broker as system and user bus

[Kevin Fenzi]

On 03/23/2018 04:24 AM, Tom Gundersen wrote:
> Hi Kevin,
> 
> Thanks for testing!
> 
> We attempted to keep the logging to a minimum, in particular we try to only
> log in case of a potential problem.
> 
> The main log message is terse, but we include a lot of metadata (and we are
> open to adding more). Query the journal with `-o verbose` to see more
> information.

Ah ha. Yep. That gives the sort of info I was looking for.

Might mention that in the man pages or README or change page.

Thanks!

kevin




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Re: Request for testing: dbus-broker as system and user bus

[Tom Gundersen]

Hi Kevin,

Thanks for testing!

On Fri, Mar 23, 2018, 1:00 AM Kevin Fenzi  wrote:

> So everything seems to be working fine for me with it, but I did notice
> that the logs are... quite a bit more terse.
>
> Here's the 4 messages I have so far:
>
> Mar 22 16:46:20 taim.scrye.com systemd[1]: Starting D-Bus System Message
> Bus...
> Mar 22 16:46:20 taim.scrye.com systemd[1]: Started D-Bus System Message
> Bus.
> Mar 22 16:46:26 taim.scrye.com dbus-broker[1284]: :1.27 failed to send
> message, due to policy.
> Mar 22 16:46:26 taim.scrye.com dbus-broker[1284]: :1.27 failed to send
> message, due to policy.
>

[...]

I don't know if we need to log every success by default, but perhaps we
> could find a middle ground? at least the failed sends might have more
> information so we could see what was doing that?
>

We attempted to keep the logging to a minimum, in particular we try to only
log in case of a potential problem.

The main log message is terse, but we include a lot of metadata (and we are
open to adding more). Query the journal with `-o verbose` to see more
information.

Cheers,

Tom

>
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Re: Request for testing: dbus-broker as system and user bus

[Kevin Fenzi]

On 03/13/2018 07:04 AM, Tom Gundersen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> dbus-broker is a new DBus message bus implementation. We are proposing
> it as the default in Fedora as of F29 [0], and as such we would be
> grateful for as much testing as possible before the switch is made.
> 
> For instructions on how to test, see [1].
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Tom and David
> 
> [0]: 
> 
> [1]: 
> 

So everything seems to be working fine for me with it, but I did notice
that the logs are... quite a bit more terse.

Here's the 4 messages I have so far:

Mar 22 16:46:20 taim.scrye.com systemd[1]: Starting D-Bus System Message
Bus...
Mar 22 16:46:20 taim.scrye.com systemd[1]: Started D-Bus System Message Bus.
Mar 22 16:46:26 taim.scrye.com dbus-broker[1284]: :1.27 failed to send
message, due to policy.
Mar 22 16:46:26 taim.scrye.com dbus-broker[1284]: :1.27 failed to send
message, due to policy.

For contrast, my last boot with dbus had 11673.
It appears dbus logs every connection:

Mar 21 13:32:43 taim.scrye.com systemd[1]: Started D-Bus System Message Bus.
Mar 21 13:32:43 taim.scrye.com dbus-daemon[1311]: [system] Successfully
activated service 'org.freedesktop.systemd1'
Mar 21 13:32:43 taim.scrye.com dbus-daemon[1311]: [system] Activating
via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.hostname1'
unit='dbus-org.freedesktop.hostname1.service' requested by ':1.3' (uid=0
pid=1319 comm="/usr/libexec/bluetooth/bluetoothd "
label="system_u:system_r:bluetooth_t:s0")

I don't know if we need to log every success by default, but perhaps we
could find a middle ground? at least the failed sends might have more
information so we could see what was doing that?

Thanks.

kevin



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Re: Request for testing: dbus-broker as system and user bus

[Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek]

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 11:42:57AM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote:
> I would like to test it, but as long as it keeps the original dbus on my
> system, I won't install it. I don't want two dbus implementations on my
> system.
That's a bit harsh, especially in the testing phase.
/usr/bin/dbus-daemon is 231k, so if it's not running, it hardly
matters. Long-term, the plan is of course to install just one implementation
by default.

Zbyszek
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Re: Request for testing: dbus-broker as system and user bus

[Vít Ondruch]

I would like to test it, but as long as it keeps the original dbus on my
system, I won't install it. I don't want two dbus implementations on my
system.


Vít


Dne 13.3.2018 v 15:04 Tom Gundersen napsal(a):
> Hi,
>
> dbus-broker is a new DBus message bus implementation. We are proposing
> it as the default in Fedora as of F29 [0], and as such we would be
> grateful for as much testing as possible before the switch is made.
>
> For instructions on how to test, see [1].
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tom and David
>
> [0]: 
> 
> [1]: 
> 
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Request for testing: dbus-broker as system and user bus

[Tom Gundersen]

Hi,

dbus-broker is a new DBus message bus implementation. We are proposing
it as the default in Fedora as of F29 [0], and as such we would be
grateful for as much testing as possible before the switch is made.

For instructions on how to test, see [1].

Cheers,

Tom and David

[0]: 

[1]: 

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