Re: [Repost] What is Error: Protected multilib versions

2012-04-19 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2012-04-05 at 23:34 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
 John Reiser wrote:
  Or, some packager forgot to use %{?_isa} when specifying package
  dependencies which are [or become] architecture-dependent.  This is a
  common and systematic error which causes much grief.  None of the tools
  check for it, which is another bug^Wopportunity for enhancement.
 
 %{?_isa} wouldn't really fix this. It'd just change the error from 
 protected multilib versions to unresolvable dependencies. The real issue 
 is that the repository contains packages with broken dependencies, and 
 there's no magic bullet to fix that in yum or in the packaging. There is, 
 however, talk about enforcing the AutoQA dependency checks on the Bodhi end, 
 which should fix that problem in most cases.

AFAICS the real problem here is that an update got unpushed. It seems
like Richard got the 64-bit version of libvirt -3 installed, then the -3
update got unpushed, then something wanted to install the 32-bit version
of libvirt. Obviously, since the update had been unpushed, it was
impossible to find the matching 32-bit version.

As long as updates can be unpushed, that one can pop up.

The other classic case where we get a lot of this (and similar errors)
is when we push the fedora-release update which disables
updates-testing; people have the 64-bit version of something installed
from updates-testing, then they need to have the 32-bit version
installed, but now updates-testing is disabled...
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Re: [Repost] What is Error: Protected multilib versions

2012-04-19 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Williamson wrote:
 AFAICS the real problem here is that an update got unpushed. It seems
 like Richard got the 64-bit version of libvirt -3 installed, then the -3
 update got unpushed, then something wanted to install the 32-bit version
 of libvirt. Obviously, since the update had been unpushed, it was
 impossible to find the matching 32-bit version.
 
 As long as updates can be unpushed, that one can pop up.

Oh, so this is yet another example of fallout from the braindead decision to 
enable updates-testing by default for Branched.

 The other classic case where we get a lot of this (and similar errors)
 is when we push the fedora-release update which disables
 updates-testing; people have the 64-bit version of something installed
 from updates-testing, then they need to have the 32-bit version
 installed, but now updates-testing is disabled...

And that's the other reason why that decision is broken.

updates-testing should NEVER be on by default. There is no expectation of 
upgrade path in updates-testing (whereas there is one even in Rawhide!), so 
enabling it by default is very broken.

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Re: [Repost] What is Error: Protected multilib versions

2012-04-19 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 17:14 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
 Adam Williamson wrote:
  AFAICS the real problem here is that an update got unpushed. It seems
  like Richard got the 64-bit version of libvirt -3 installed, then the -3
  update got unpushed, then something wanted to install the 32-bit version
  of libvirt. Obviously, since the update had been unpushed, it was
  impossible to find the matching 32-bit version.
  
  As long as updates can be unpushed, that one can pop up.
 
 Oh, so this is yet another example of fallout from the braindead decision to 
 enable updates-testing by default for Branched.

Um...no? The case listed *below* would be, but updates-testing doesn't
seem particularly relevant to the above case. If updates-testing didn't
exist at all, you'd still have the potential of this problem happening
if updates could be unpushed.

  The other classic case where we get a lot of this (and similar errors)
  is when we push the fedora-release update which disables
  updates-testing; people have the 64-bit version of something installed
  from updates-testing, then they need to have the 32-bit version
  installed, but now updates-testing is disabled...
 
 And that's the other reason why that decision is broken.
 
 updates-testing should NEVER be on by default. There is no expectation of 
 upgrade path in updates-testing (whereas there is one even in Rawhide!), so 
 enabling it by default is very broken.

Yes and no. It's 'very broken' in the sense that we know it can cause a
bit of this kind of pain for people who install pre-releases and update
them to final releases. However, we're perfectly aware of the general
sorts of issues the process can cause and consider them to be an
acceptable trade-off for the considerable _benefits_ of having
updates-testing enabled by default (lots more testing of the packages).

We really mean the whole thing about pre-releases eating babies, and
this is just one instance of that. If you're not prepared to do a bit of
yum handholding to work around issues like this now and again, you have
no business installing a pre-release of Fedora. I'm not sure it's
practically possible to make that *not* the case.
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Re: [Repost] What is Error: Protected multilib versions

2012-04-19 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Williamson wrote:
 Um...no? The case listed *below* would be, but updates-testing doesn't
 seem particularly relevant to the above case. If updates-testing didn't
 exist at all, you'd still have the potential of this problem happening
 if updates could be unpushed.

Stable updates cannot be unpushed.

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Re: [Repost] What is Error: Protected multilib versions

2012-04-06 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 11:34:29PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
 John Reiser wrote:
  Or, some packager forgot to use %{?_isa} when specifying package
  dependencies which are [or become] architecture-dependent.  This is a
  common and systematic error which causes much grief.  None of the tools
  check for it, which is another bug^Wopportunity for enhancement.
 
 %{?_isa} wouldn't really fix this. It'd just change the error from 
 protected multilib versions to unresolvable dependencies. The real issue 
 is that the repository contains packages with broken dependencies, and 
 there's no magic bullet to fix that in yum or in the packaging. There is, 
 however, talk about enforcing the AutoQA dependency checks on the Bodhi end, 
 which should fix that problem in most cases.

Well it could, if we were smarter about the order in which files on
the mirrors got updated.

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[Repost] What is Error: Protected multilib versions

2012-04-05 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
I still get this error several times a week, and I still have no idea
what it means or how I'm supposed to respond to it (other than
fiddling randomly with packages until it goes away).

The latest one:

# yum install /usr/sbin/libvirtd
[... yum spew deleted ...]
Error: Protected multilib versions: libvirt-client-0.9.10-2.fc17.i686 != 
libvirt-client-0.9.10-3.fc17.x86_64

$ rpm -qa | grep libvirt-client
libvirt-client-0.9.10-3.fc17.x86_64

What does the error mean?

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Re: [Repost] What is Error: Protected multilib versions

2012-04-05 Thread drago01
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote:
 I still get this error several times a week, and I still have no idea
 what it means or how I'm supposed to respond to it (other than
 fiddling randomly with packages until it goes away).

 The latest one:

 # yum install /usr/sbin/libvirtd
 [... yum spew deleted ...]
 Error: Protected multilib versions: libvirt-client-0.9.10-2.fc17.i686 != 
 libvirt-client-0.9.10-3.fc17.x86_64

 $ rpm -qa | grep libvirt-client
 libvirt-client-0.9.10-3.fc17.x86_64

 What does the error mean?

The 32bit and 64bit version of a lib must match.
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Re: [Repost] What is Error: Protected multilib versions

2012-04-05 Thread drago01
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:41 PM, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote:
 I still get this error several times a week, and I still have no idea
 what it means or how I'm supposed to respond to it (other than
 fiddling randomly with packages until it goes away).

 The latest one:

 # yum install /usr/sbin/libvirtd
 [... yum spew deleted ...]
 Error: Protected multilib versions: libvirt-client-0.9.10-2.fc17.i686 != 
 libvirt-client-0.9.10-3.fc17.x86_64

 $ rpm -qa | grep libvirt-client
 libvirt-client-0.9.10-3.fc17.x86_64

 What does the error mean?

 The 32bit and 64bit version of a lib must match.

Err clicked send too soon.

For some reason you seem to be installing -2.ii686 while you have
-3.x86_64 installed ... outdated mirror?
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Re: [Repost] What is Error: Protected multilib versions

2012-04-05 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 01:23:28PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
 I still get this error several times a week, and I still have no idea
 what it means or how I'm supposed to respond to it (other than
 fiddling randomly with packages until it goes away).
 
 The latest one:
 
 # yum install /usr/sbin/libvirtd
 [... yum spew deleted ...]
 Error: Protected multilib versions: libvirt-client-0.9.10-2.fc17.i686 != 
 libvirt-client-0.9.10-3.fc17.x86_64
 
 $ rpm -qa | grep libvirt-client
 libvirt-client-0.9.10-3.fc17.x86_64
 
 What does the error mean?

You have both the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of libvirt-client-0.9.10-2.fc17
installed.  Your yum update command is trying to pull in the 
libvirt-client-0.9.10-3.fc17
and is only finding the x86_64 version in your yum repos.

Either you manually installed a 32bit RPM that was not via the yum
repos, or your yum repos have lost the 32-bit RPMs, or perhaps you
have blacklisted 32-bit RPMs in your yum conf.

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Re: [Repost] What is Error: Protected multilib versions

2012-04-05 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 02:13:34PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 01:23:28PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
  I still get this error several times a week, and I still have no idea
  what it means or how I'm supposed to respond to it (other than
  fiddling randomly with packages until it goes away).
  
  The latest one:
  
  # yum install /usr/sbin/libvirtd
  [... yum spew deleted ...]
  Error: Protected multilib versions: libvirt-client-0.9.10-2.fc17.i686 != 
  libvirt-client-0.9.10-3.fc17.x86_64
  
  $ rpm -qa | grep libvirt-client
  libvirt-client-0.9.10-3.fc17.x86_64
  
  What does the error mean?
 
 You have both the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of libvirt-client-0.9.10-2.fc17
 installed.  Your yum update command is trying to pull in the 
 libvirt-client-0.9.10-3.fc17
 and is only finding the x86_64 version in your yum repos.
 
 Either you manually installed a 32bit RPM that was not via the yum
 repos, or your yum repos have lost the 32-bit RPMs, or perhaps you
 have blacklisted 32-bit RPMs in your yum conf.

Oh, and incidentally you don't want to be install the
0.9.10-3.fc17 version of libvirt - it has broken packaging
and was unpushed  replaced by 0.9.11-1.fc17.  Sadly there
seems to be quite a delay in Bohdi updating F17 repos currently :-(


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Re: [Repost] What is Error: Protected multilib versions

2012-04-05 Thread John Reiser
 # yum install /usr/sbin/libvirtd

 Error: Protected multilib versions: libvirt-client-0.9.10-2.fc17.i686 != 
 libvirt-client-0.9.10-3.fc17.x86_64

 What does the error mean?
 ...

Or, some packager forgot to use %{?_isa} when specifying package dependencies
which are [or become] architecture-dependent.  This is a common and *systematic*
error which causes much grief.  None of the tools check for it, which is another
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Re: [Repost] What is Error: Protected multilib versions

2012-04-05 Thread M A Young

On Thu, 5 Apr 2012, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:


I still get this error several times a week, and I still have no idea
what it means or how I'm supposed to respond to it (other than
fiddling randomly with packages until it goes away).

The latest one:

# yum install /usr/sbin/libvirtd
[... yum spew deleted ...]
Error: Protected multilib versions: libvirt-client-0.9.10-2.fc17.i686 != 
libvirt-client-0.9.10-3.fc17.x86_64

$ rpm -qa | grep libvirt-client
libvirt-client-0.9.10-3.fc17.x86_64

What does the error mean?


You can get this when a package wants the older version of (in this case) 
libvirt-client and tries to pull in the i686 version to resolve the 
dependency when it doesn't specify a particular arch.


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Re: [Repost] What is Error: Protected multilib versions

2012-04-05 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 06:32:47AM -0700, John Reiser wrote:
  # yum install /usr/sbin/libvirtd
 
  Error: Protected multilib versions: libvirt-client-0.9.10-2.fc17.i686 != 
  libvirt-client-0.9.10-3.fc17.x86_64
 
  What does the error mean?
  ...

 Or, some packager forgot to use %{?_isa} when specifying package
 dependencies which are [or become] architecture-dependent.  This is
 a common and *systematic* error which causes much grief.  None of
 the tools check for it, which is another bug^Wopportunity for
 enhancement.

Is there any information about when this should be used?  I don't
think I've ever written a spec file that uses it.

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Re: [Repost] What is Error: Protected multilib versions

2012-04-05 Thread Till Maas
On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 06:54:36PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:

 Is there any information about when this should be used?  I don't
 think I've ever written a spec file that uses it.

I think it is whenever a package containing a library (i.e. a multilib
package) is required via the package's name, then it needs to be used
due to multilib.

Btw. is there an easy way to get a list of all packages that are
multilib?

Regards
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Re: [Repost] What is Error: Protected multilib versions

2012-04-05 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 06:32:47AM -0700, John Reiser wrote:
  # yum install /usr/sbin/libvirtd

  Error: Protected multilib versions: libvirt-client-0.9.10-2.fc17.i686 != 
  libvirt-client-0.9.10-3.fc17.x86_64

  What does the error mean?
  ...

 Or, some packager forgot to use %{?_isa} when specifying package
 dependencies which are [or become] architecture-dependent.  This is
 a common and *systematic* error which causes much grief.  None of
 the tools check for it, which is another bug^Wopportunity for
 enhancement.

 Is there any information about when this should be used?  I don't
 think I've ever written a spec file that uses it.

The packaging guidelines describe several cases, search for arch-specific.
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Re: [Repost] What is Error: Protected multilib versions

2012-04-05 Thread Kevin Kofler
John Reiser wrote:
 Or, some packager forgot to use %{?_isa} when specifying package
 dependencies which are [or become] architecture-dependent.  This is a
 common and systematic error which causes much grief.  None of the tools
 check for it, which is another bug^Wopportunity for enhancement.

%{?_isa} wouldn't really fix this. It'd just change the error from 
protected multilib versions to unresolvable dependencies. The real issue 
is that the repository contains packages with broken dependencies, and 
there's no magic bullet to fix that in yum or in the packaging. There is, 
however, talk about enforcing the AutoQA dependency checks on the Bodhi end, 
which should fix that problem in most cases.

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What is Error: Protected multilib versions: ...?

2011-09-04 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
I get this error all the time, but I can't find a coherent explanation
for what it means.

What is the precise meaning of the protected multilib versions error?

# yum install /lib/ld-linux.so.2
[...]
Error: Protected multilib versions: glibc-2.14.90-4.i686 != 
glibc-2.14.90-1.x86_64

# yum install /lib/ld-linux.so.2 glibc-2.14.90-4.x86_64
Loaded plugins: auto-update-debuginfo, presto, refresh-packagekit
Setting up Install Process
Package glibc-2.14.90-4.x86_64 already installed and latest version
Resolving Dependencies
-- Running transaction check
--- Package glibc.i686 0:2.14.90-4 will be installed
-- Processing Dependency: libfreebl3.so for package: glibc-2.14.90-4.i686
-- Processing Dependency: libfreebl3.so(NSSRAWHASH_3.12.3) for package: 
glibc-2.14.90-4.i686
-- Running transaction check
--- Package nss-softokn-freebl.i686 0:3.12.10-4.fc16 will be installed
-- Finished Dependency Resolution
Error: Protected multilib versions: glibc-2.14.90-4.i686 != 
glibc-2.14.90-1.x86_64

# yum install glibc-2.14.90-4.x86_64
Loaded plugins: auto-update-debuginfo, presto, refresh-packagekit
Setting up Install Process
Package glibc-2.14.90-4.x86_64 already installed and latest version
Nothing to do

Bonus question.  How come rpm/yum has allowed me to install multiple
different versions of glibc?  (I have never knowingly forced any
installation on this machine).

# rpm -qa | grep glibc
glibc-utils-2.14.90-4.x86_64
glibc-2.14.90-1.x86_64
glibc-headers-2.14.90-4.x86_64
glibc-debuginfo-common-2.14.90-4.x86_64
glibc-2.14.90-4.x86_64
glibc-static-2.14.90-4.x86_64
glibc-debuginfo-2.14.90-4.x86_64
glibc-devel-2.14.90-4.x86_64
glibc-debuginfo-common-2.14-2.x86_64
glibc-common-2.14.90-4.x86_64
glibc-common-2.14.90-1.x86_64

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Re: What is Error: Protected multilib versions: ...?

2011-09-04 Thread Niels de Vos
And now to the list as well...
On 4 Sep 2011 10:01, Niels de Vos ni...@nixpanic.net wrote:
 On 4 Sep 2011 09:45, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote:

 I get this error all the time, but I can't find a coherent explanation
 for what it means.

 What is the precise meaning of the protected multilib versions error?

 # yum install /lib/ld-linux.so.2
 [...]
 Error: Protected multilib versions: glibc-2.14.90-4.i686 !=
 glibc-2.14.90-1.x86_64

 # yum install /lib/ld-linux.so.2 glibc-2.14.90-4.x86_64
 Loaded plugins: auto-update-debuginfo, presto, refresh-packagekit
 Setting up Install Process
 Package glibc-2.14.90-4.x86_64 already installed and latest version
 Resolving Dependencies
 -- Running transaction check
 --- Package glibc.i686 0:2.14.90-4 will be installed
 -- Processing Dependency: libfreebl3.so for package:
glibc-2.14.90-4.i686
 -- Processing Dependency: libfreebl3.so(NSSRAWHASH_3.12.3) for package:
 glibc-2.14.90-4.i686
 -- Running transaction check
 --- Package nss-softokn-freebl.i686 0:3.12.10-4.fc16 will be installed
 -- Finished Dependency Resolution
 Error: Protected multilib versions: glibc-2.14.90-4.i686 !=
 glibc-2.14.90-1.x86_64

 # yum install glibc-2.14.90-4.x86_64
 Loaded plugins: auto-update-debuginfo, presto, refresh-packagekit
 Setting up Install Process
 Package glibc-2.14.90-4.x86_64 already installed and latest version
 Nothing to do

 Bonus question. How come rpm/yum has allowed me to install multiple
 different versions of glibc? (I have never knowingly forced any
 installation on this machine).

 # rpm -qa | grep glibc
 glibc-utils-2.14.90-4.x86_64
 glibc-2.14.90-1.x86_64
 glibc-headers-2.14.90-4.x86_64
 glibc-debuginfo-common-2.14.90-4.x86_64
 glibc-2.14.90-4.x86_64
 glibc-static-2.14.90-4.x86_64
 glibc-debuginfo-2.14.90-4.x86_64
 glibc-devel-2.14.90-4.x86_64
 glibc-debuginfo-common-2.14-2.x86_64
 glibc-common-2.14.90-4.x86_64
 glibc-common-2.14.90-1.x86_64

 It seems that you have 2x glibc.x86_64, not a 32-bit one. Likely some
 previous update was interrupted and never finished?
yum-complete-transaction
 or similar might be able to help you here.

 Hth,
 Niels


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Re: What is Error: Protected multilib versions: ...?

2011-09-04 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Richard W.M. Jones writes:


glibc-common-2.14.90-4.x86_64
glibc-common-2.14.90-1.x86_64


This means that rpm/yum aborted in a middle of a upgrade.

You should clean this up using rpm -e glibc-common-2.14.90-1.x86_64



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