Re: python-dateutil update
On Sun, 2015-01-18 at 14:35 -0700, Pete Travis wrote: On 12/08/2014 09:47 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 09:10:59AM -0700, Pete Travis wrote: On Dec 8, 2014 8:51 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbys...@in.waw.pl wrote: On Sun, Dec 07, 2014 at 04:45:12PM -0700, Pete Travis wrote: python-dateutil is old[0]. Fedora is carrying version 1.5, and upstream is up to 2.3 . If you're receiving this mail directly, you are a maintainer of a package that depends on python-dateutil, and we need your help. It seems that calibre is fine with the new version. I wanted to update pyton-dateutil to check if calibre works, and it seems that I installed python-dateutil-2.3 with pip --user couple of months ago and calibre didn't seem to mind. There's some dateutil usage in the installer, which I didn't test but which we probably don't care about. https://github.com/dateutil/dateutil/blob/master/NEWS also doesn't seem scary. So I think it's fine it python-dateutil is updated as a calibre dep. Zbyszek Great, thanks for responding. I'm a *light* calibre user, but I'd be happy to help test with a newer dateutil when it becomes available if that's the direction you are going. You can just install the python-dateutil-2.* package and test away ;) Looking at the list and your annoucement mail again, I wonder if it might be better to bump python-dateutil to 2.2 again as soon as the updated python-dateutil15 is available, and simply modify packages which either explicitly depend on dateutil 2 or exhibit problems to depend on python-dateutil15. Proven packagers can do that trivially if necessary. Otherwise this could drag on for months. fedocal and python-django-tastypie are the only packages which explicitly require python-dateutil 2. If you wish, I can volunteer file bugs to change the dependency for F21 and rawhide for those two packages and do it myself after a week if the maintainers don't respond or are fine with the change (got to use those provenpackager privs for something :)). Zbyszek Okay, I finally have things in motion here python-dateutil15 in rawhide is usable as described and an update for F21 will be available soon. Provenpackage at will :) Please, *DO NOT* push incompatible updates to Fedora 21. This is not acceptable. Python-dateutil 2.x is incompatible with nearly all packages that use 1.5. Treat this like you would a SOName bump in a C package. I see that you have built python-dateutil 2.x and python-dateutil15 for Rawhide and F21 already and have made them Conflicts: each other. This is seriously wrong. Please follow Fedora's Python Eggs Guidelines[1] for how to create parallel-installable versions so that they can live on the system simultaneously. Once the packages are parallel-installable, before they go to stable (too late, for Rawhide...) you need to set a flag day for packages that previously required python-dateutils 1.5 to change their Requires: If they must continue to use 1.5, then they need to Requires: python-dateutil = 1.5 and then follow the directions up there to ensure that their built Egg-Info requires.txt explicitly lists this as well. This will cause Python to pull in the correct version if both are installed. If they can work on 2.0, then they can just leave it as Requires: python-dateutil and whichever one is on the system will be used. Also, please do not file dozens of bugs without following the Mass Bug Filing process[2]. It makes life difficult for everyone. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Python_Eggs#Multiple_Versions [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mass_bug_filing signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: python-dateutil update
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 08:27:07AM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: On Sun, 2015-01-18 at 14:35 -0700, Pete Travis wrote: On 12/08/2014 09:47 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 09:10:59AM -0700, Pete Travis wrote: On Dec 8, 2014 8:51 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbys...@in.waw.pl wrote: On Sun, Dec 07, 2014 at 04:45:12PM -0700, Pete Travis wrote: python-dateutil is old[0]. Fedora is carrying version 1.5, and upstream is up to 2.3 . If you're receiving this mail directly, you are a maintainer of a package that depends on python-dateutil, and we need your help. It seems that calibre is fine with the new version. I wanted to update pyton-dateutil to check if calibre works, and it seems that I installed python-dateutil-2.3 with pip --user couple of months ago and calibre didn't seem to mind. There's some dateutil usage in the installer, which I didn't test but which we probably don't care about. https://github.com/dateutil/dateutil/blob/master/NEWS also doesn't seem scary. So I think it's fine it python-dateutil is updated as a calibre dep. Zbyszek Great, thanks for responding. I'm a *light* calibre user, but I'd be happy to help test with a newer dateutil when it becomes available if that's the direction you are going. You can just install the python-dateutil-2.* package and test away ;) Looking at the list and your annoucement mail again, I wonder if it might be better to bump python-dateutil to 2.2 again as soon as the updated python-dateutil15 is available, and simply modify packages which either explicitly depend on dateutil 2 or exhibit problems to depend on python-dateutil15. Proven packagers can do that trivially if necessary. Otherwise this could drag on for months. fedocal and python-django-tastypie are the only packages which explicitly require python-dateutil 2. If you wish, I can volunteer file bugs to change the dependency for F21 and rawhide for those two packages and do it myself after a week if the maintainers don't respond or are fine with the change (got to use those provenpackager privs for something :)). Zbyszek Okay, I finally have things in motion here python-dateutil15 in rawhide is usable as described and an update for F21 will be available soon. Provenpackage at will :) Please, *DO NOT* push incompatible updates to Fedora 21. This is not acceptable. Python-dateutil 2.x is incompatible with nearly all packages that use 1.5. Treat this like you would a SOName bump in a C package. That's not quite true. dateutil was py2 only up to 1.5, then they released 2.0 announcing it would be py3 only which they later changed back so that the 2.2+ (maybe even 2.1) versions are both compatible with py2 and py3. So the latest version of python-dateutil are pretty much compatible with all packages that use/used 1.5. I have not checked completely but for all the programs which I have that relies on dateutil the API didn't change. So, while it should be handled carefully, I do not consider it to be 'incompatible with nearly all packages that use 1.5'. Pierre pgpVLsUUWDTHP.pgp Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: python-dateutil update
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/08/2014 09:47 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 09:10:59AM -0700, Pete Travis wrote: On Dec 8, 2014 8:51 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbys...@in.waw.pl wrote: On Sun, Dec 07, 2014 at 04:45:12PM -0700, Pete Travis wrote: python-dateutil is old[0]. Fedora is carrying version 1.5, and upstream is up to 2.3 . If you're receiving this mail directly, you are a maintainer of a package that depends on python-dateutil, and we need your help. It seems that calibre is fine with the new version. I wanted to update pyton-dateutil to check if calibre works, and it seems that I installed python-dateutil-2.3 with pip --user couple of months ago and calibre didn't seem to mind. There's some dateutil usage in the installer, which I didn't test but which we probably don't care about. https://github.com/dateutil/dateutil/blob/master/NEWS also doesn't seem scary. So I think it's fine it python-dateutil is updated as a calibre dep. Zbyszek Great, thanks for responding. I'm a *light* calibre user, but I'd be happy to help test with a newer dateutil when it becomes available if that's the direction you are going. You can just install the python-dateutil-2.* package and test away ;) Looking at the list and your annoucement mail again, I wonder if it might be better to bump python-dateutil to 2.2 again as soon as the updated python-dateutil15 is available, and simply modify packages which either explicitly depend on dateutil 2 or exhibit problems to depend on python-dateutil15. Proven packagers can do that trivially if necessary. Otherwise this could drag on for months. fedocal and python-django-tastypie are the only packages which explicitly require python-dateutil 2. If you wish, I can volunteer file bugs to change the dependency for F21 and rawhide for those two packages and do it myself after a week if the maintainers don't respond or are fine with the change (got to use those provenpackager privs for something :)). Zbyszek Okay, I finally have things in motion here python-dateutil15 in rawhide is usable as described and an update for F21 will be available soon. Provenpackage at will :) - -- - -- Pete -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUvCcGAAoJEL1wZM0+jj2ZqPIH/i5SSAHgnNOWhAqK8A8jEN/7 2Q2cwirG25CjWCu6doLX5W7Y+/jBHFaEB90WfS0HtiZEiJI6WQc8g+uz46Piyro2 NsXdQMNn7Em62apcHj3qJFYTinUVhYYR/eamYo09pEo7JPoXEhGAc0UW3i1QkTCv OM8x0j/lk6Dcj/xFJq0prdYDZqcQtQQsjX5A+LIWuYBaDF/yUpEhWcWa4Y9I5RaZ AQiuYaxxXVEdmVwHM/frSffn66qTP9zW/rypIYxQXEZiEXyApOKm8whN8C9a5q+M Shr5IDyNiDvELwLXUCncqMKFN43DP9YfqPiI8RG7c2nIf7hl8sZCeldlwPPPI5c= =1ujy -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: python-dateutil update
On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 09:10:59AM -0700, Pete Travis wrote: On Dec 8, 2014 8:51 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbys...@in.waw.pl wrote: On Sun, Dec 07, 2014 at 04:45:12PM -0700, Pete Travis wrote: python-dateutil is old[0]. Fedora is carrying version 1.5, and upstream is up to 2.3 . If you're receiving this mail directly, you are a maintainer of a package that depends on python-dateutil, and we need your help. It seems that calibre is fine with the new version. I wanted to update pyton-dateutil to check if calibre works, and it seems that I installed python-dateutil-2.3 with pip --user couple of months ago and calibre didn't seem to mind. There's some dateutil usage in the installer, which I didn't test but which we probably don't care about. https://github.com/dateutil/dateutil/blob/master/NEWS also doesn't seem scary. So I think it's fine it python-dateutil is updated as a calibre dep. Zbyszek Great, thanks for responding. I'm a *light* calibre user, but I'd be happy to help test with a newer dateutil when it becomes available if that's the direction you are going. You can just install the python-dateutil-2.* package and test away ;) Looking at the list and your annoucement mail again, I wonder if it might be better to bump python-dateutil to 2.2 again as soon as the updated python-dateutil15 is available, and simply modify packages which either explicitly depend on dateutil 2 or exhibit problems to depend on python-dateutil15. Proven packagers can do that trivially if necessary. Otherwise this could drag on for months. fedocal and python-django-tastypie are the only packages which explicitly require python-dateutil 2. If you wish, I can volunteer file bugs to change the dependency for F21 and rawhide for those two packages and do it myself after a week if the maintainers don't respond or are fine with the change (got to use those provenpackager privs for something :)). Zbyszek -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: python-dateutil update
On Mon, 2014-12-08 at 17:47 +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: fedocal and python-django-tastypie are the only packages which explicitly require python-dateutil 2. If you wish, I can volunteer file bugs to change the dependency for F21 and rawhide for those two packages and do it myself after a week if the maintainers don't respond or are fine with the change (got to use those provenpackager privs for something :)). You can take fedocal out of this list. The problem was that one release of python-dateutils was not py2 compatible (thus the 1.5 compat package and the discussion in bug report listed previously). This is now back and fedocal runs now happily with the latest python-dateutils. Pierre -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
python-dateutil update
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, python-dateutil is old[0]. Fedora is carrying version 1.5, and upstream is up to 2.3 . If you're receiving this mail directly, you are a maintainer of a package that depends on python-dateutil, and we need your help. There are some changes that might cause breakage for you if the package was updated. Luckily, there is a python-dateutil15 package that could continue to provide the same code. The maintainer of python-dateutil15 has agreed to carry the one patch that makes it different from python-dateutil. After this update to python-dateutil15, maintainers of dependent packages[1] can simply submit an update with the new requires for business as usual. python-dateutil can then be updated to the current version, and packages needing *that* can move forward. I intend to file a bug against python-dateutil15 for the patch, a tracking bug that's blocked by tickets filed against individual affected packages and dependent on the python-dateutil15 change, and the tracking bug will block the cited python-dateutil ticket. It should be relatively easy to see when each step is complete, and a relatively painless change for the maintainers involved. Please reply here with any concerns about this process that might not have occurred to me. [0] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1126521 [1] https://immanetize.fedorapeople.org/python-dateutil.requires - -- - -- Pete Travis - Fedora Docs Project Leader - 'randomuser' on freenode - immanet...@fedoraproject.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUhOZ4AAoJEL1wZM0+jj2Z4jUH/A7d3onPkvwUNKUo5uCDXBJb WIXOKtCZbK3LrBK7VSUk7px4cfOjcFumRCs+ZSXSq4URIRd8pxCFbcXWTpfk1fq3 uoxeZDXiK9Ab9P+2ksPDlPODuDxjoj77Pa79YNnoxUTL2tvdz2YcrlIqOrgJa2+h uopMO8BF9qE6t8KXfhiGkP2w/EF6rfqrUaL0F7xvVzyDfkA/akS0LPcRyfQ0fOi6 Tbfr9Qoj54dpJWLjlBXky0RLodMXl2oFOnotdhmqAF9RRIbotYG03NXH9CeQn3SU wdQm/RdXgQQyoTbghwq8k0yGWsPrhm4AyeC++XTKUtBFZwEEGxVj+2kAnpvJ24Q= =7BTl -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
