[Geany-Devel] Re: Search ignore diacriticals?
I did implement myself such functionality in case you want to copy that to Geany see https://github.com/giuspen/cherrytree/blob/fc1d7499067b9db9841175b5a2d6934dc65e4522/src/ct/ct_actions_find.cc#L629 On Thu, 29 Aug 2024, 09:49 Lex Trotman via Devel, wrote: > On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 at 16:35, Austin Green via Devel > wrote: > > > > I was rather hoping to have the custom case folder as an additional > option in any search. Are the Scintilla people easily annoyed by requests > for features? > > > > > > Not particularly, but will not often do it for you if it is some > feature that is specific to you. And also ATM there is no method for > specifying such "custom" functionality to the search so that makes it > more complex. In general Scintilla provides commonly useful features, > it is used by many applications and on major platforms, if some > feature is not likely to be common its not likely to be added. But it > has the ability to give you the whole buffer to perform such things as > custom searches yourself. As I said Geany does this for regex > searches since it uses different regex engines to Scintilla. So your > plugin can ask for a pointer to the buffer and then search away using > any search method you want to. > > Cheers > Lex > ___ > Devel mailing list -- devel@lists.geany.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.geany.org > ___ Devel mailing list -- devel@lists.geany.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.geany.org
[Geany-Devel] Re: Search ignore diacriticals?
On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 at 16:35, Austin Green via Devel wrote: > > I was rather hoping to have the custom case folder as an additional option in > any search. Are the Scintilla people easily annoyed by requests for features? > > Not particularly, but will not often do it for you if it is some feature that is specific to you. And also ATM there is no method for specifying such "custom" functionality to the search so that makes it more complex. In general Scintilla provides commonly useful features, it is used by many applications and on major platforms, if some feature is not likely to be common its not likely to be added. But it has the ability to give you the whole buffer to perform such things as custom searches yourself. As I said Geany does this for regex searches since it uses different regex engines to Scintilla. So your plugin can ask for a pointer to the buffer and then search away using any search method you want to. Cheers Lex ___ Devel mailing list -- devel@lists.geany.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.geany.org
[Geany-Devel] Re: Search ignore diacriticals?
I was rather hoping to have the custom case folder as an additional option in any search. Are the Scintilla people easily annoyed by requests for features? On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 13:41:59 +1000 Lex Trotman via Devel wrote: > In your plugin there is nothing stopping you from getting the buffer > in one piece and implementing your own search on it, no need to annoy > Scintilla. > That is how Geany implements regex search using different engines from > Scintillas. > > On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 at 11:44, Austin Green via Devel > wrote: > > > > The search feature is supplied by Scintilla. There is a facility for > > setting a 'case-folder' (function or table) to handle case-insensitive > > searches, so allowing a user-supplied custom case-folder might be the > > easiest way. Then it could be handled in Geany via my plug-in. AFAIK there > > is no such option currently in Geany or Scintilla, so I'll ask the > > Scintilla people if they would consider adding it. > > > > > > On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 17:47:38 +1000 > > Lex Trotman via Devel wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 at 16:23, Austin Green via Devel > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes, that works, but I was hoping for the lazy version, e.g. an option > > > > on the search dialog. Guess I'll have to code it myself. > > > > > > Indeed, AFAIK the Unicode standard does not define any normative > > > mechanism to do this, so you are inventing your own requirement, and > > > therefore you have to code it yourself. > > > > > > For some simple cases like Latin 1, decomposition will separate the > > > diacritical from the base character so you can compare bases but > > > ignore combining characters, but as I said, thats a function _you_ > > > want, not a normal defined one, so you will have to write it. > > > > > > Cheers > > > Lex > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Austin. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 13:27:46 +1000 > > > > Lex Trotman via Devel wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 at 12:57, Austin Green via Devel > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there a way to get the Geany search to match letters with > > > > > > diacriticals as though they were not? E.g. I want to be able to > > > > > > search for 'cafe' and have it match 'café' as well. > > > > > > > > > > Possibly you could use a regex to match e or é ? > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > Lex > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > Devel mailing list -- devel@lists.geany.org > > > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.geany.org > > > > > ___ > > > > > Devel mailing list -- devel@lists.geany.org > > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.geany.org > > > > ___ > > > > Devel mailing list -- devel@lists.geany.org > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.geany.org > > > ___ > > > Devel mailing list -- devel@lists.geany.org > > > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.geany.org > > ___ > > Devel mailing list -- devel@lists.geany.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.geany.org > ___ > Devel mailing list -- devel@lists.geany.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.geany.org ___ Devel mailing list -- devel@lists.geany.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.geany.org
[Geany-Devel] Re: Search ignore diacriticals?
In your plugin there is nothing stopping you from getting the buffer in one piece and implementing your own search on it, no need to annoy Scintilla. That is how Geany implements regex search using different engines from Scintillas. On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 at 11:44, Austin Green via Devel wrote: > > The search feature is supplied by Scintilla. There is a facility for setting > a 'case-folder' (function or table) to handle case-insensitive searches, so > allowing a user-supplied custom case-folder might be the easiest way. Then it > could be handled in Geany via my plug-in. AFAIK there is no such option > currently in Geany or Scintilla, so I'll ask the Scintilla people if they > would consider adding it. > > > On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 17:47:38 +1000 > Lex Trotman via Devel wrote: > > > On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 at 16:23, Austin Green via Devel > > wrote: > > > > > > Yes, that works, but I was hoping for the lazy version, e.g. an option on > > > the search dialog. Guess I'll have to code it myself. > > > > Indeed, AFAIK the Unicode standard does not define any normative > > mechanism to do this, so you are inventing your own requirement, and > > therefore you have to code it yourself. > > > > For some simple cases like Latin 1, decomposition will separate the > > diacritical from the base character so you can compare bases but > > ignore combining characters, but as I said, thats a function _you_ > > want, not a normal defined one, so you will have to write it. > > > > Cheers > > Lex > > > > > Cheers, > > > Austin. > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 13:27:46 +1000 > > > Lex Trotman via Devel wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 at 12:57, Austin Green via Devel > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Is there a way to get the Geany search to match letters with > > > > > diacriticals as though they were not? E.g. I want to be able to > > > > > search for 'cafe' and have it match 'café' as well. > > > > > > > > Possibly you could use a regex to match e or é ? > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > Lex > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > Devel mailing list -- devel@lists.geany.org > > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.geany.org > > > > ___ > > > > Devel mailing list -- devel@lists.geany.org > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.geany.org > > > ___ > > > Devel mailing list -- devel@lists.geany.org > > > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.geany.org > > ___ > > Devel mailing list -- devel@lists.geany.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.geany.org > ___ > Devel mailing list -- devel@lists.geany.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.geany.org ___ Devel mailing list -- devel@lists.geany.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.geany.org
[Geany-Devel] Re: Search ignore diacriticals?
The search feature is supplied by Scintilla. There is a facility for setting a 'case-folder' (function or table) to handle case-insensitive searches, so allowing a user-supplied custom case-folder might be the easiest way. Then it could be handled in Geany via my plug-in. AFAIK there is no such option currently in Geany or Scintilla, so I'll ask the Scintilla people if they would consider adding it. On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 17:47:38 +1000 Lex Trotman via Devel wrote: > On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 at 16:23, Austin Green via Devel > wrote: > > > > Yes, that works, but I was hoping for the lazy version, e.g. an option on > > the search dialog. Guess I'll have to code it myself. > > Indeed, AFAIK the Unicode standard does not define any normative > mechanism to do this, so you are inventing your own requirement, and > therefore you have to code it yourself. > > For some simple cases like Latin 1, decomposition will separate the > diacritical from the base character so you can compare bases but > ignore combining characters, but as I said, thats a function _you_ > want, not a normal defined one, so you will have to write it. > > Cheers > Lex > > > Cheers, > > Austin. > > > > > > On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 13:27:46 +1000 > > Lex Trotman via Devel wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 at 12:57, Austin Green via Devel > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Is there a way to get the Geany search to match letters with > > > > diacriticals as though they were not? E.g. I want to be able to search > > > > for 'cafe' and have it match 'café' as well. > > > > > > Possibly you could use a regex to match e or é ? > > > > > > Cheers > > > Lex > > > > > > > ___ > > > > Devel mailing list -- devel@lists.geany.org > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.geany.org > > > ___ > > > Devel mailing list -- devel@lists.geany.org > > > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.geany.org > > ___ > > Devel mailing list -- devel@lists.geany.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.geany.org > ___ > Devel mailing list -- devel@lists.geany.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.geany.org ___ Devel mailing list -- devel@lists.geany.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.geany.org
[Geany-Devel] Re: Search ignore diacriticals?
On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 at 16:23, Austin Green via Devel wrote: > > Yes, that works, but I was hoping for the lazy version, e.g. an option on the > search dialog. Guess I'll have to code it myself. Indeed, AFAIK the Unicode standard does not define any normative mechanism to do this, so you are inventing your own requirement, and therefore you have to code it yourself. For some simple cases like Latin 1, decomposition will separate the diacritical from the base character so you can compare bases but ignore combining characters, but as I said, thats a function _you_ want, not a normal defined one, so you will have to write it. Cheers Lex > Cheers, > Austin. > > > On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 13:27:46 +1000 > Lex Trotman via Devel wrote: > > > On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 at 12:57, Austin Green via Devel > > wrote: > > > > > > Is there a way to get the Geany search to match letters with diacriticals > > > as though they were not? E.g. I want to be able to search for 'cafe' and > > > have it match 'café' as well. > > > > Possibly you could use a regex to match e or é ? > > > > Cheers > > Lex > > > > > ___ > > > Devel mailing list -- devel@lists.geany.org > > > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.geany.org > > ___ > > Devel mailing list -- devel@lists.geany.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.geany.org > ___ > Devel mailing list -- devel@lists.geany.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.geany.org ___ Devel mailing list -- devel@lists.geany.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.geany.org
[Geany-Devel] Re: Search ignore diacriticals?
Yes, that works, but I was hoping for the lazy version, e.g. an option on the search dialog. Guess I'll have to code it myself. Cheers, Austin. On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 13:27:46 +1000 Lex Trotman via Devel wrote: > On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 at 12:57, Austin Green via Devel > wrote: > > > > Is there a way to get the Geany search to match letters with diacriticals > > as though they were not? E.g. I want to be able to search for 'cafe' and > > have it match 'café' as well. > > Possibly you could use a regex to match e or é ? > > Cheers > Lex > > > ___ > > Devel mailing list -- devel@lists.geany.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.geany.org > ___ > Devel mailing list -- devel@lists.geany.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.geany.org ___ Devel mailing list -- devel@lists.geany.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.geany.org
[Geany-Devel] Re: Search ignore diacriticals?
On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 at 12:57, Austin Green via Devel wrote: > > Is there a way to get the Geany search to match letters with diacriticals as > though they were not? E.g. I want to be able to search for 'cafe' and have > it match 'café' as well. Possibly you could use a regex to match e or é ? Cheers Lex > ___ > Devel mailing list -- devel@lists.geany.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.geany.org ___ Devel mailing list -- devel@lists.geany.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.geany.org
