New joyride build 1762

2008-03-13 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1762 Changes in build 1762 from build: 1761 Size delta: 0.00M -eject 2.1.5-5 +eject 2.1.5-6.fc7 -kernel 2.6.22-20080312.1.olpc.b2bf74bc62d9dbf +kernel 2.6.22-20080312.2.olpc.f3687aa7e09fd65 -vim-minimal 2:7.1.211-1.fc7 +vim-minimal

Re: 698 - 'su' does not pick up customized environmental variables

2008-03-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It used to be that issuing 'su' put me into root, but kept the that's a relatively recent (sometime in the last 12 months in most distros?) tightening of su/sudo env var cleanups. They used to cleanup some env vars that

Re: XO activities

2008-03-13 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Mar 13, 2008, at 5:54 , John Watlington wrote: As we move from a model of preinstalled activities to one where an installer contains a core OS and a number of activities to be installed, the Activities page on the Wiki is sadly lacking. I didn't find .xo bundles for: Calculate

Re: XO activities

2008-03-13 Thread Reinier Heeres
Hi, I just did a new release for Calculate (v18) and linked that on the wiki page. Cheers, Reinier Bert Freudenberg wrote: On Mar 13, 2008, at 5:54 , John Watlington wrote: As we move from a model of preinstalled activities to one where an installer contains a core OS and a number of

A self-contained pseudo-dynamic xo library

2008-03-13 Thread Michael Stone
Friends, In order to demonstrate that our that our bundles really don't require require post-install hooks in order to function, I decided to attack the dynamic library problem in its simplest possible form. In the end, I wound up rebasing the Mako's make_index.py script on top of Ivan's

Re: New update.1 build 699

2008-03-13 Thread Bryan Berry
CScott wrote: Web doesn't needs to be an exception. You can install activities from a customization key or from the console without it. --scott -- ( http://cscott.net/ ) The wiki page for Customization Key says that we need the fs.zip file to install the customized build. I don't see an

Re: XO activities

2008-03-13 Thread Morgan Collett
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 13, 2008, at 5:54 , John Watlington wrote: As we move from a model of preinstalled activities to one where an installer contains a core OS and a number of activities to be installed, the Activities

Re: drupal on OLPC?

2008-03-13 Thread Greg Smith (gregmsmi)
Hi Ben, Your timing is excellent! The kids in Uruguay have started blogging a lot with the XO. Posting Adivinanzas (riddles) seem like a popular item. See: http://www.blogger.com/profile/06134894806578234196 Now they are asking for more sophisticated content management and we have already

More sugar-jhbuild problems

2008-03-13 Thread James Simmons
I tried deleting automake from /usr/local/bin but leaving the rest of automake 1.7 present. When I ran build again I got the following error: git pull Already up-to-date. *** Configuring sugar-base *** [1/51] ./autogen.sh --prefix /home/jim/src/sugar-jhbuild/build configure.ac:8: version

Re: drupal on OLPC?

2008-03-13 Thread eduardo diaz
Drupal on spanish: http://www.drupal.org.es/ 2008/3/13, Greg Smith (gregmsmi) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Ben, Your timing is excellent! The kids in Uruguay have started blogging a lot with the XO. Posting Adivinanzas (riddles) seem like a popular item. See:

Re: drawing, structured graphics

2008-03-13 Thread Jim Gettys
Sayamindu, I think Victor is asking for something at a higher level of abstraction; particularly what goes by the name of a canvas in various toolkits. I thought we were using goocanvas, or something like that on top of cairo for TK canvas equivalent functionality... Marco?

/usr/share/activities content

2008-03-13 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
Installed 699 (by running olpc-update from Joyride). Noticed that the only Activity now in /usr/share/activities is Journal. I understand that you want to allow the target countries to choose which Activities will be pre-installed on their laptops. But if you are going to empty

Re: drawing, structured graphics

2008-03-13 Thread Victor Lazzarini
goocanvas seems to be what I was looking for. Thanks At 16:13 13/03/2008, Jim Gettys wrote: Sayamindu, I think Victor is asking for something at a higher level of abstraction; particularly what goes by the name of a canvas in various toolkits. I thought we were using goocanvas, or something

Re: drawing, structured graphics

2008-03-13 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sayamindu, I think Victor is asking for something at a higher level of abstraction; particularly what goes by the name of a canvas in various toolkits. I thought we were using goocanvas, or something like that on top of

Re: drawing, structured graphics

2008-03-13 Thread Jim Gettys
On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 17:29 +0100, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sayamindu, I think Victor is asking for something at a higher level of abstraction; particularly what goes by the name of a canvas in various toolkits.

Re: A self-contained pseudo-dynamic xo library

2008-03-13 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
quote who=Michael Stone date=Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 05:35:35AM -0400 In order to demonstrate that our that our bundles really don't require require post-install hooks in order to function, I decided to attack the dynamic library problem in its simplest possible form. In the end, I wound up

New joyride build 1764

2008-03-13 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1764 Changes in build 1764 from build: 1762 Size delta: -0.13M -etoys 2.3.1894-2 +etoys 2.3.1896-1 -Record 53 +Record 54 -Etoys 78 +Etoys 80 --- Changes for etoys 2.3.1896-1 from 2.3.1894-2 --- + fixed image and sources again ---

sugar-jhbuild problem

2008-03-13 Thread James Simmons
I think I figured out what happened with automake. I think that while I deleted automake form /usr/local/bin I did NOT delete aclocal from that directory. I'll try that tonight. The missing abiword file is still a concern. James Simmons ___ Devel

olpc-update, update.1, and activities

2008-03-13 Thread John Gilmore
The removal of activities seems to be happening under the assumption that people will use a USB memory stick to upgrade their laptops. Was it only a few months ago that I was told, Skip the USB install notes, all the updating is going to happen via olpc-update from now on? Now the story is

Re: olpc-update, update.1, and activities

2008-03-13 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 3:51 PM, John Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The removal of activities seems to be happening under the assumption that people will use a USB memory stick to upgrade their laptops. Was it only a few months ago that I was told, Skip the USB install notes, all the

Re: More sugar-jhbuild problems

2008-03-13 Thread James Simmons
Tomeu, I'm getting timeouts here at work on both http://sugar.abisource.com and the IP address. Yesterday I was able to bring up a website at sugar.abisource.com, but the website made no mention of abiword so it's quite possible I was pointing at the wrong site. I'll try again tonight.

Re: olpc-update, update.1, and activities

2008-03-13 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 15:59 -0400, C. Scott Ananian wrote: Upgrade via olpc-update will work fine, but you'll have to use the customization key (without the four-button erase-everything step) or other mechanism (download, unzip) to install the activities. This is absolutely unacceptable for

Re: More sugar-jhbuild problems

2008-03-13 Thread Morgan Collett
2008/3/13 James Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm getting timeouts here at work on both http://sugar.abisource.com and the IP address. Yesterday I was able to bring up a website at sugar.abisource.com, but the website made no mention of abiword so it's quite possible I was pointing at the wrong

Re: More sugar-jhbuild problems

2008-03-13 Thread James Simmons
Morgan, Thanks much, that should be a big help. James Simmons Morgan Collett wrote: 2008/3/13 James Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm getting timeouts here at work on both http://sugar.abisource.com and the IP address. Yesterday I was able to bring up a website at sugar.abisource.com, but

Re: State of the update.1

2008-03-13 Thread Richard A. Smith
C. Scott Ananian wrote: * trac #6245: boot even if firmware needs update (smithbone working on this) Fixed in q2d14. -- Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] One Laptop Per Child ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

Re: olpc-update, update.1, and activities

2008-03-13 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 15:59 -0400, C. Scott Ananian wrote: Upgrade via olpc-update will work fine, but you'll have to use the customization key (without the four-button erase-everything step) or other

699 responsiveness

2008-03-13 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
Don't know if this is reproducible or not. Am in the process of customizing 699. After I installed the Adobe flash player, there was an appreciable lag in the system's response to my CLI commands. Looked with 'top', and found 'gtk-gnash' was using up to 70% of my CPU cycles. Killed

Re: [OLPC-Games] Phun source code [was: Re: Physics with Python and Pygame (Chipmunk 2D Physics Engine)]

2008-03-13 Thread Chris Hager
I started a page on the wiki for comparing the engines: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Physic_Engines A major difference seems to be that box2d is more mature and feature-rich, but it's library has 1.7 mb, whereas Chipmunk provides stable and fast, basic physics within 48kb for the library.

Re: A self-contained pseudo-dynamic xo library

2008-03-13 Thread Samuel Klein
See http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Dynamic_library --SJ On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Ivan Krstić [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 13, 2008, at 6:56 PM, Benj. Mako Hill wrote: I helped SJ draft a document rationalizing the need for a dynamic solution Where is this document? It was

OLPC Usability Testing Class Project

2008-03-13 Thread Frederick Grose
This note is a request for the broader community to consider potential topic areas that might be prime for some usability testing. (Here is a quick review of usability testing, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usability_testing.) Professor Keith Karn in the Information Technology Department,

New update.1 build 700

2008-03-13 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://pilgrim.laptop.org/~pilgrim/olpc/streams/update.1/build700 Changes in build 700 from build: 699 Size delta: 2.76M -olpc-library-core 1-22 +olpc-library-core 1-23 -bootfw q2d13-1.olpc2.unsigned +bootfw q2d14-1.olpc2.unsigned -olpc-library-common 1-21 +olpc-library-common 1-23 --- Changes

New joyride build 1765

2008-03-13 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1765 Changes in build 1765 from build: 1764 Size delta: -0.13M -bootfw q2d13-1.olpc2.unsigned +bootfw q2d14-1.olpc2.unsigned --- Changes for bootfw q2d14-1.olpc2.unsigned from q2d13-1.olpc2.unsigned --- + update to q2d14 this is an

RE: Drupal on OLPC?

2008-03-13 Thread Bryan Berry
The kids in Uruguay have started blogging a lot with the XO. Posting Adivinanzas (riddles) seem like a popular item. See: http://www.blogger.com/profile/06134894806578234196 Now they are asking for more sophisticated content management and we have already flagged Drupal as a tool that may fit

New faster build 1766

2008-03-13 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build1766 Changes in build 1766 from build: 1762 Size delta: -0.13M -etoys 2.3.1894-2 +etoys 2.3.1896-1 -bootfw q2d13-1.olpc2.unsigned +bootfw q2d14-1.olpc2.unsigned -Record 53 +Record 54 -Etoys 78 +Etoys 80 --- Changes for etoys 2.3.1896-1

Problems with build 699, .i18n locale, and customization key

2008-03-13 Thread Bryan Berry
I have two problems related to the customization key and build 699. 1. Reflashing w/ customization key and os699 will wipe out .i18n As far as I can tell no way to customize the locale using the Customization key. The XO's that have arrived in Nepal do not have Nepal set as the country nor

Re: New update.1 build 699

2008-03-13 Thread Giannis Galanis
Chris, what does inhibit-idle-suspend do? On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:45 PM, Build Announcer v2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://pilgrim.laptop.org/~pilgrim/olpc/streams/update.1/build699http://pilgrim.laptop.org/%7Epilgrim/olpc/streams/update.1/build699 Changes in build 699 from build: 698

Re: New update.1 build 699

2008-03-13 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, what does inhibit-idle-suspend do? It allows you to disable automatic idle suspend while keeping enabled the explicit suspend on power button press or lid close. Previously, there was only the inhibit-suspend file that inhibits both of the above. - Chris. -- Chris Ball [EMAIL

Re: New update.1 build 699

2008-03-13 Thread Giannis Galanis
Ok. Should we test automatic suspend by removing the file? Or we dont consider it a priority any more? On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:05 AM, Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, what does inhibit-idle-suspend do? It allows you to disable automatic idle suspend while keeping enabled the

Today's state of the update.1 (Friday 14 March; update.1-699/700)

2008-03-13 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Build to test: update.1-699 Two bugs listed below are already fixed in update.1-700. Fixed: #6671 (activity ordering in /home) #5933 (change default jabber server to update1.jabber.laptop.org) #6405 (can't add photo to write) #2064 (activities should live in /home/olpc/Activities)

Re: Problems with build 699, .i18n locale, and customization key

2008-03-13 Thread John Watlington
On Mar 14, 2008, at 12:00 AM, Bryan Berry wrote: I have two problems related to the customization key and build 699. 1. Reflashing w/ customization key and os699 will wipe out .i18n As far as I can tell no way to customize the locale using the Customization key. The XO's that have arrived

Re: Problems with build 699, .i18n locale, and customization key

2008-03-13 Thread Bryan Berry
Wad and Cscott, thanks for your attention to this On Fri, 2008-03-14 at 01:00 -0400, C. Scott Ananian wrote: On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:52 AM, John Watlington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 14, 2008, at 12:00 AM, Bryan Berry wrote: I have two problems related to the customization key and