Re: SuperUser permission for the Driver??

2008-06-25 Thread Michael Stone
We have an activity that wants superuser privilege in order to poke kernel memory. The real questions we should be attempting to address here include: * Who is granting privilege to this activity? * How are they doing so? * How should we record the decision? - My tentative answer is

Re: SuperUser permission for the Driver??

2008-06-25 Thread shivaprasad javali
I am new to programming on Linux, I just searched for Setuid() and found that it sets the effective userid of my program to the userid I specify. So can I just call setuid() in my program when I need superuser privileges and have those privileges. To what part of my program are those privileges

Re: [IAEP] fixing etoys

2008-06-25 Thread Yoshiki Ohshima
Yoshiki Ohshima wrote: Again, start up time is not a problem. Etoys start up looks a bit slow on XO, but that is because the DBus communication that has to be done. I frequently hear DBus being accused of latency. As badly implemented as it might be, I can't believe a daemon

Want to package PostgreSQL for OLPC

2008-06-25 Thread Devrim GÜNDÜZ
Hi, Per e-mail from Michael Stone: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-June/msg01331.html I would like to assist packaging PostgreSQL for OLPC. I'm the upstream packager for PostgreSQL, and I also maintain 30+ packages for Fedora+EPEL. What should I do next? Regards, --

Re: Updates This Week to the Sugar Almanac - Using the Datastore and More

2008-06-25 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi Faisal, some answers below: 2008/6/24 Faisal Anwar [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ?? Is there a specific reason why there isn't a set() method in the datastore.DSMetadata class? Shouldn't people be given standard accessors and mutators to work with this code. This is especially confusing because it

Re: [IAEP] fixing etoys

2008-06-25 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 4:23 AM, Bernie Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, I'd like to check if we could do anything to reduce our dependence on DBus to provide basic desktop services for which there are existing Freedesktop standards and long established X conventions. If we manage to

Re: etoys implementation

2008-06-25 Thread John Gilmore
My only experience with Squeak/eToys up til now was trying it on the OLPC as a naive user. Poking at objects on the screen with the handles, since that was the only tutorial offered. The way the darn thing saved its workspace in the friggin Journal whenever you tried to quit it reminded me of

Rebuilt Rainbow olpc-utils

2008-06-25 Thread Michael Stone
Dear Dennis devel, I rebuilt rainbow olpc-utils. olpc-utils underwent a relatively exciting merge wherein I combined patches from several contributors. I've diffed the resulting RPM against olpc-utils-0.73.2 and I think it will work, but I haven't tested it yet. Also, I built rainbow in F-9

Software Status Meeting Today (Wednesday) @ 1400 EDT, 1800 UTC in #olpc-meeting on freenode

2008-06-25 Thread Michael Stone
Dear friends, Let's welcome Scott home from his vacation by describing all the easy bugs that we squashed in his absence and all the really nasty bugs that we couldn't solve without him. Michael P.S. - We're going to start regular release status meetings in addition to the Wednesday development

Re: Rebuilt Rainbow olpc-utils

2008-06-25 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Just fyi here is how you usually request branches: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/CVSAdminProcedure (Thanks for the build) Marco On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Dennis devel, I rebuilt rainbow olpc-utils. olpc-utils underwent

Re: [IAEP] fixing etoys

2008-06-25 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 25.06.2008 um 10:49 schrieb Marco Pesenti Gritti: On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 4:23 AM, Bernie Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, I'd like to check if we could do anything to reduce our dependence on DBus to provide basic desktop services for which there are existing Freedesktop

Re: Setting up the mesh device

2008-06-25 Thread Dan Williams
On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 18:09 -0400, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos wrote: Sjoerd Simons wrote: I'm setting the ESSID on the msh0 interface indeed. But i never get an association event on it.. While i even get an association event on eth0 when it's not up (but with msh0 being up obviously) :)

Re: Setting up the mesh device

2008-06-25 Thread Dan Williams
On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 02:34 +0100, Sjoerd Simons wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 06:09:58PM -0400, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos wrote: Sjoerd Simons wrote: I'm setting the ESSID on the msh0 interface indeed. But i never get an association event on it.. While i even get an association event on

Re: SuperUser permission for the Driver??

2008-06-25 Thread Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
On 25.06.2008 08:07, Michael Stone wrote: We have an activity that wants superuser privilege in order to poke kernel memory. Hello? Please take the poor activity out back and shoot it. No activity has any business poking kernel memory. The real questions we should be attempting to address

Re: Want to package PostgreSQL for OLPC

2008-06-25 Thread Martin Langhoff
2008/6/25 Devrim GÜNDÜZ [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would like to assist packaging PostgreSQL for OLPC. I'm the upstream packager for PostgreSQL, and I also maintain 30+ packages for Fedora+EPEL. What should I do next? Hi Devrim! Thanks for getting in touch - I am the guy looking after the School

Re: Want to package PostgreSQL for OLPC

2008-06-25 Thread Devrim GÜNDÜZ
On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 08:48 -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote: How hard is it to get a backport of Pg8.2/8.3, plus some key dependencies (php-pgsql, python-pgsql, pam-pgsql) recompiled to use the new libpq, all on F7? http://yum.pgsqlrpms.org ;) I have already built all PG combinations against

Re: Want to package PostgreSQL for OLPC

2008-06-25 Thread Devrim GÜNDÜZ
On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 09:44 -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote: We have compat packages, and all pam-pgsql, etc in that repository. So, using those files won't be a problem. Fantastic! So python-pgsql and php-pgsql are there too? python-psycopg2 is there, but not php-pgsql. The question is:

Re: [RFC] Unscheduled Software Release for SD Card Corruption Workaround

2008-06-25 Thread Deepak Saxena
On Jun 25 2008, at 00:04, Kim Quirk was caught saying: Thanks Deepak. I'd love to see the SD card corruption fixed, but we are just about finished with testing and are now in the release process for 8.1.1... so i recommend that we schedule this fix for the 8.1.2 release (if we do this release)

New joyride build 2073

2008-06-25 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2073 Changes in build 2073 from build: 2072 Size delta: 0.52M -gnash-plugin 0.8.2-2.fc9 +gnash-plugin 0.8.3-1.olpc3 -olpc-utils 0.73-2.olpc3.3 +olpc-utils 0.75-1.olpc3 -gnash 0.8.2-2.fc9 +gnash 0.8.3-1.olpc3 -sugar-presence-service

Re: etoys implementation

2008-06-25 Thread Yoshiki Ohshima
Hi, John, My only experience with Squeak/eToys up til now was trying it on the OLPC as a naive user. Poking at objects on the screen with the handles, since that was the only tutorial offered. The way the darn thing saved its workspace in the friggin Journal whenever you tried to quit it

Re: OLPC config in salut in F9?

2008-06-25 Thread Morgan Collett
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:01, Guillaume Desmottes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le mardi 24 juin 2008 à 17:36 -0700, Brian Pepple a écrit : On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 01:12 +0200, Morgan Collett wrote: Can we enable the OLPC-specific patches and config in telepathy-salut in F-9? We're rebasing OLPC

Re: OLPC config in salut in F9?

2008-06-25 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:01, Guillaume Desmottes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le mardi 24 juin 2008 à 17:36 -0700, Brian Pepple a écrit : On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 01:12 +0200, Morgan Collett wrote: Can we enable the

Re: [RFC] Unscheduled Software Release for SD Card Corruption Workaround

2008-06-25 Thread Kim Quirk
Deepak, I think you should feel free to release information and kernel rpms to the devel list, pretty much whenever you want since you (or others) can answer questions and help people who want to try this out. I would consider this as 'developer testing' -- which is great and shouldn't get bogged

New faster build 2073

2008-06-25 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build2073 Changes in build 2073 from build: 2071 Size delta: 0.00M -sugar-presence-service 0.81.2-1.olpc2 +sugar-presence-service 0.81.2-2.olpc2 --- Changes for sugar-presence-service 0.81.2-2.olpc2 from 0.81.2-1.olpc2 --- + Depends on

Re: OLPC config in salut in F9?

2008-06-25 Thread Morgan Collett
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 18:27, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:01, Guillaume Desmottes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le mardi 24 juin 2008 à 17:36 -0700, Brian Pepple a écrit : On

Re: etoys implementation

2008-06-25 Thread Yoshiki Ohshima
John, I separated the real Etoys implementation part from your email. Hopefully it helps to focus on different aspects of discussion. It took some searching, but I found a paper on the design of the guts of Squeak: ftp://st.cs.uiuc.edu/Smalltalk/Squeak/docs/OOPSLA.Squeak.html I

Re: etoys implementation

2008-06-25 Thread NoiseEHC
There's also a warning at http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak that if you want to run eToys, you need to run a different version of Squeak than everybody else. *That* is Etoys. What is wrong with it? Just out of curiosity: Exactly how is it different from vanilla squeak? (If there is

Re: etoys implementation

2008-06-25 Thread Yoshiki Ohshima
There's also a warning at http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak that if you want to run eToys, you need to run a different version of Squeak than everybody else. *That* is Etoys. What is wrong with it? Just out of curiosity: Exactly how is it different from vanilla squeak? (If

Re: etoys implementation

2008-06-25 Thread Karl Ramberg
NoiseEHC wrote: There's also a warning at http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak that if you want to run eToys, you need to run a different version of Squeak than everybody else. *That* is Etoys. What is wrong with it? Just out of curiosity: Exactly how is it different from

Re: Want to package PostgreSQL for OLPC

2008-06-25 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Devrim GÜNDÜZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: python-psycopg2 is there, but not php-pgsql. The question is: Is php-pgsql already in OLPC package set? If yes, we have compat packages to satisfy dependencies. If not, I can give it a shot. It's not mentioned in our

Re: etoys implementation

2008-06-25 Thread NoiseEHC
Thanks! Why do you refer it to as binary blob? That was the first word jumped into my mind. All I know is that it is not in CVS or GIT so nothing serious. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

OLPC XO Opera browser as Sugar activity

2008-06-25 Thread Stevens
Hi All, I run Opera on the XO, but if started as an activity it doesn't run (it runs fine when started from terminal). There is a note on the Opera install page that there is an incompatibility between Rainbow and Opera: Note: There is at present an incompatibility between the Opera

Re: etoys implementation

2008-06-25 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:00 AM, Yoshiki Ohshima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [John Gilmore wrote:] There's also a warning at http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak that if you want to run eToys, you need to run a different version of Squeak than everybody else. *That* is Etoys. What is wrong

Re: etoys implementation

2008-06-25 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 25.06.2008 um 23:25 schrieb Edward Cherlin: On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:00 AM, Yoshiki Ohshima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [John Gilmore wrote:] There's also a warning at http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak that if you want to run eToys, you need to run a different version of Squeak than

Re: OLPC config in salut in F9?

2008-06-25 Thread Morgan Collett
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 18:35, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 18:27, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would still be good if we could --enable-olpc on the F9 packages, so that Sugar can work right in Fedora 9. Morgan could you take care of that?

Re: [Server-devel] Yummy incron

2008-06-25 Thread Bill Bogstad
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 8:54 PM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking for a (memory, cpu, power) efficient way to trigger events/scripts on the XS, I came across incrond. It weights ~600KB according to ps_mem.py, and it looks like the kind of tool we want to be using. There are a

Re: etoys implementation

2008-06-25 Thread Frank Ch. Eigler
Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] Can gst bring in a .sources file and a .changes file and create a working image? It doesn't have to. It builds gst.im from scratch at every bootstrap. If squeak/etoys did something close to that, many concerns would be pacified. - FChE

Re: OLPC XO Opera browser as Sugar activity

2008-06-25 Thread John Gilmore
The activity start script should configure Opera to put its configuration file in $SUGAR_ACTIVITY_ROOT/data instead of $HOME/.opera. Also it should set umask to 0002 so the config file is group-writable (otherwise the next activity instance cannot overwrite). See

Re: etoys implementation

2008-06-25 Thread Yoshiki Ohshima
At Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:09:12 -0400, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] Can gst bring in a .sources file and a .changes file and create a working image? It doesn't have to. It builds gst.im from scratch at every bootstrap. If squeak/etoys did

Re: [IAEP] etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

2008-06-25 Thread Yoshiki Ohshima
At Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:12:23 -0400, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: The gist of the argument is that one can't currently know what's really inside an etoys image, except beyond what it itself tells us, BTW, have you now understood that this was not true? -- Yoshiki

Re: [IAEP] etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

2008-06-25 Thread Frank Ch. Eigler
Yoshiki Ohshima [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The gist of the argument is that one can't currently know what's really inside an etoys image, except beyond what it itself tells us, BTW, do you now agree that this was not true? If you give me an image file and ask me why the word at offset

Re: [IAEP] etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

2008-06-25 Thread Yoshiki Ohshima
After writing the most of reply here, I found it now largely off-topic (thanks to Frank for understanding!) At Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:00:24 -0400, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: Yoshiki Ohshima [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The gist of the argument is that one can't currently know what's really

Re: [IAEP] fixing etoys

2008-06-25 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: If we manage to make DBus entirely optional, the initial effort of porting a Linux applications to Sugar would be greatly simplified. As far as I know this is already the case. The only non standard bit are a couple of custom X properties. Oh, is there a way

Re: etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

2008-06-25 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Wednesday 25 Jun 2008 12:08:44 am Albert Cahalan wrote: *All the source code* for *every* piece of byte code in the image is available, and not only that, we even *ship* it No. This is not true. You ship a binary blob. That doesn't count, even if so-called source code is viewable from

Re: SuperUser permission for the Driver??

2008-06-25 Thread shivaprasad javali
Sorry for being naive before. Now I have got rules file in udev which grants access for my usb driver to detach the usb device from the kernel and my driver works fine without having to be super user. Thank you so much for all your suggestions. But I got one more question for you, now to install