Re: New 8.2 Stream

2008-07-11 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 11.07.2008 um 05:43 schrieb Bobby Powers: 2008/7/10 Dennis Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED]: in preparation for 8.2 we have a new 8.2 stream it can be found at http://pilgrim.laptop.org/~pilgrim/xo-1/streams/8.2/ Please test and file bugs against it. This is the stream intended for the 8.2

New joyride build 2146

2008-07-11 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2146 Changes in build 2146 from build: 2145 Size delta: 0.13M -kernel 2.6.25-20080710.8.olpc.ef6958ba170975d +kernel 2.6.25-20080711.9.olpc.e88ef08601d02cd -- This mail was automatically generated See

Re: Easiest way to run the latest activities

2008-07-11 Thread Simon Schampijer
Morgan Collett wrote: On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 11:35, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 10.07.2008 um 10:44 schrieb Morgan Collett: On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 21:31, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 09.07.2008 um 20:07 schrieb Sayamindu Dasgupta: On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at

Re: Easiest way to run the latest activities

2008-07-11 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 11.07.2008 um 12:20 schrieb Simon Schampijer: Morgan Collett wrote: On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 11:35, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 10.07.2008 um 10:44 schrieb Morgan Collett: On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 21:31, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 09.07.2008 um

Re: Easiest way to run the latest activities

2008-07-11 Thread Ixo X oxI
FYI, I believe there's also 'Xo-get' which contains a very frequently updated list of 'released' activities and activity packs. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Xo-get -iXo On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 10:41, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, The easiest way, perhaps, to run

Re: Easiest way to run the latest activities

2008-07-11 Thread Morgan Collett
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 13:06, Bobby Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/7/11 Ixo X oxI [EMAIL PROTECTED]: FYI, I believe there's also 'Xo-get' which contains a very frequently updated list of 'released' activities and activity packs. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Xo-get yes I have

Re: Subject: Re: New 8.2 Stream To: OLPC Devel

2008-07-11 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Guys, Interesting links, especially the diffs! I posted these links on the 8.2.0 overview page in a new section: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/8.2.0#Latest_Build_and_Diffs_from_Previous_Builds Let me know if that is OK with you. Can you add a little more to the explanation for these on the wiki

low power actions?

2008-07-11 Thread pgf
a thread on irc from last evening prompts me to ask: where can i find a description of how the laptop behaves (LED behavior, powerdown behavior, etc) as the battery gets low? brief searching led me to http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Power_Management#Power_Management_Scenarios but this scenario

Re: Subject: Re: New 8.2 Stream To: OLPC Devel

2008-07-11 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 11.07.2008 um 14:37 schrieb Greg Smith: Hi Guys, Interesting links, especially the diffs! I posted these links on the 8.2.0 overview page in a new section: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/8.2.0#Latest_Build_and_Diffs_from_Previous_Builds Let me know if that is OK with you. Certainly. Can

Re: New 8.2 Stream

2008-07-11 Thread Daniel Drake
On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 23:43 -0400, Bobby Powers wrote: 2008/7/10 Dennis Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED]: in preparation for 8.2 we have a new 8.2 stream it can be found at http://pilgrim.laptop.org/~pilgrim/xo-1/streams/8.2/ Please test and file bugs against it. This is the stream intended for

Re: low power actions?

2008-07-11 Thread Richard A. Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a thread on irc from last evening prompts me to ask: where can i find a description of how the laptop behaves (LED behavior, powerdown behavior, etc) as the battery gets low? EC wise: The EC turns on the red led when it thinks the battery is empty. This is by an SOC

fonts in Tk-inter problem (followup)

2008-07-11 Thread Robert Myers
Answering my own question... I just upgraded to Joyride and this now works properly. I'm trying to get IDLE running on my XO, so that I can show Python development directly on it. IDLE needs Tk-inter to run. I've installed it, and IDLE runs. The font is very small. However I can't get tk

Re: low power actions?

2008-07-11 Thread pgf
smith wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a thread on irc from last evening prompts me to ask: where can i find a description of how the laptop behaves (LED behavior, powerdown behavior, etc) as the battery gets low? EC wise: The EC turns on the red led when it thinks the battery is

Re: low power actions?

2008-07-11 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, my interest was piqued by someone on irc asking about automatic clean shutdowns for low power. i was wondering whether we do that, and whether we do earlier user warnings (your battery should be charged now in order to keep it healthy), or perhaps forced suspends. Well,

Re: Subject: Re: New 8.2 Stream To: OLPC Devel

2008-07-11 Thread Kim Quirk
For a 'change log' that is useful for both development and testing groups, I would like to ask that people please use the comments during check-in to add the trac item being fixed (when available) and a short description that would help others to know what to test or what feature has been added.

Heads up: dropping mkinitrd from joyride, might break stuff

2008-07-11 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, mkinitrd is currently included in our builds but we don't need it. It brings in some other unneeded dependencies too, which have grown a bit for F9. We're going to try removing it. Apparently last time this was tried, several essential components fell out of the build, and I guess this might

Re: Heads up: dropping mkinitrd from joyride, might break stuff

2008-07-11 Thread Brian Jordan
Dan-- I'd like to thank you for your tireless XO-dieting this week in the WAR against dependencies. I'm in charge of fixing any breakage here - I'll readd the important stuff through pilgrim as quickly as I can, but there might be a broken joyride build or 2 today. Some broken joyride

Re: low power actions?

2008-07-11 Thread pgf
chris wrote: Hi, my interest was piqued by someone on irc asking about automatic clean shutdowns for low power. i was wondering whether we do that, and whether we do earlier user warnings (your battery should be charged now in order to keep it healthy), or perhaps

Re: [Localization] How do we manage translation effort in Release, process/roadmap?

2008-07-11 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Sayamindu, Great work, thanks for taking up the gauntlet on this! One question for you, how much lead time do you need to do the translations? Assuming something like final test starts 15 days before the target release date, when do we need to tell the developers to freeze all of their

Re: New 8.2 Stream

2008-07-11 Thread Daniel Drake
On Fri, 2008-07-11 at 11:35 -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: Its completely manual. it is designed for doing release candidate builds, much the same as update.1 builds were done. OK. When are you planning to trigger builds? (how often and/or on what conditions?) Any objections to me including

Re: low power actions?

2008-07-11 Thread Gary C Martin
On 11 Jul 2008, at 16:20, Chris Ball wrote: Hi, my interest was piqued by someone on irc asking about automatic clean shutdowns for low power. i was wondering whether we do that, and whether we do earlier user warnings (your battery should be charged now in order to keep it healthy), or

Re: Jumpy touch pad observation

2008-07-11 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi James, On 11 Jul 2008, at 00:59, James Cameron wrote: Have you another power supply you can try with? No, not at the moment (but I have a request in for MP XO HW). What sort of power supply are you using? Is it one of the B4 range with white label, a model number P018WA120J and a

Re: low power actions?

2008-07-11 Thread Edward Cherlin
What would it take to put in a journaling filesystem? On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One concern I have with auto saving state before powering off is the potential corruption of

Re: low power actions?

2008-07-11 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, What would it take to put in a journaling filesystem? The j in jffs2 stands for journalling. - Chris. -- Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: low power actions?

2008-07-11 Thread pgf
chris wrote: Hi, What would it take to put in a journaling filesystem? The j in jffs2 stands for journalling. to expand -- i believe the shutdown-inspired corruption people are worried about is not filesystem corruption, but application corruption -- if the activity doesn't

Re: Jumpy touch pad observation

2008-07-11 Thread Andres Salomon
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:43:33 +0100 Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] With the latest Joyride changes, it seems much clearer/easier to see when the driver is trying to re-calibrate as the pointer suddenly stops moving for a few seconds. In the persistent case (plugged in

New joyride build 2149

2008-07-11 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2149 Changes in build 2149 from build: 2146 Size delta: -0.13M -bootfw q2d16-1.olpc2.unsigned +bootfw q2e10-1.olpc3.unsigned --- Changes for bootfw q2e10-1.olpc3.unsigned from q2d16-1.olpc2.unsigned --- + Latest OFW firmware: q2e10

Release Process Update

2008-07-11 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, I collected recent feedback and updated the Release Process Home: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_Process_Home Finalization of this will take time. We should move ahead with 8.2.0 and learn from it and plan to use the new process for 8.2.1 and 9.1.0. I addressed as many comments as

Activity Backward Compatibility (was re: Re: joyride 2128 smoketest)

2008-07-11 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Guys, We should definitely have backward compatibility for activities! That is, activities that used to work (maybe starting at 656) must continue to work. If a new release requires that all activity authors have to recode some of their work, that will be a major deterrent to working with us.

Re: Jumpy touch pad observation

2008-07-11 Thread James Cameron
Re clothing ... with B1 keyboard static issues, I learned what clothing was unsuitable. Fur lined boots. Don't be surprised if you find clothing dependencies for B4 trackpad, in your specific case, since you might be influencing an RF field. -- James Cameronmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Release status report delayed.

2008-07-11 Thread Michael Stone
Folks, My present release status report isn't complete yet, so I'll send it tomorrow when I'm satisfied with it. Sorry for the delay! Michael ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: [Server-devel] EduBlog: Teacher Review Options

2008-07-11 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Tarun, That was my intention originally but I'm not sure its critical at this stage. I think its all right if the teacher can choose from many available blogs and just show one or two to the kids at a time. If the kids can choose from a menu of many blogs (frog, cricket, turtle, etc) that

Re: [Server-devel] volunteer for offline Moodle

2008-07-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Tony! welcome! Your analysis is good, and similar to one of the offline moodle projects that is already underway. Unfortunately - as an experienced moodle core programmer - I can see that building offline moodle that way has significant roadblocks, some of which are a deal-killer for the long