Re: Almost 50% less free memory in joyride-2302 compared with Update.1 (708)

2008-08-22 Thread Asheesh Laroia
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008, Ton van Overbeek wrote: Noticed the following: After booting with all the joyride activities installed and then running top on vt2 (no activities running, only journal) joyride-2302 shows 44268k free. Booting into 708 with the same set of activities shows 82828k free.

Re: OS versioning

2008-08-22 Thread victor
Thanks everyone for their quick and comprehensive responses. Victor - Original Message - From: Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: victor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: devel@lists.laptop.org Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 6:37 AM Subject: Re: OS versioning On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 06:18:47AM

Re: Almost 50% less free memory in joyride-2302 compared with Update.1 (708)

2008-08-22 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Ton van Overbeek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Noticed the following: After booting with all the joyride activities installed and then running top on vt2 (no activities running, only journal) joyride-2302 shows 44268k free. Booting into 708 with the same set of

Re: #7893 -- Presence service gets confused.

2008-08-22 Thread Guillaume Desmottes
Le jeudi 21 août 2008 à 13:56 -0400, Michael Stone a écrit : Folks, #7893 was recently upgraded to release-blocker status since it is reported to afflict the Neighborhood view independent of the use of Gabble or Salut and since no reasonable workarounds are known. This bug is about a simple

debxo 0.1 release

2008-08-22 Thread s . boutayeb
Hi Andres, Congratulation for your work! I have reloaded the install procedure of the debxo image. So far, the image is installed and working out of the box. I have detailed a few steps of the procedure on the Wiki at olpc-france.org. See below:

Re: olpc school request

2008-08-22 Thread Jerry and Amy Higdon
Thanks so much. When I search for OLPC I find many such references are made about buying for those really in need like Bangladesh... How can I find out if there is a program of sort for Bangladesh going right now or not?   Jerry John 3:30 He must become greater and greater, and I must become

Changes in Trac

2008-08-22 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hello, in yesterdays sugar meeting and after some discussions on the devel mailing list we (michael, marco and myself) decided that the default milestone should be 'Not Triaged'. We renamed 'Retriage Please!' to 'Not Triaged' and made it the default milestone. In the end we think that it is

Re: Almost 50% less free memory in joyride-2302 compared with Update.1 (708)

2008-08-22 Thread James Cameron
I've 703 and 2311 available to compare. Here's a few things I found. -- A test to compare available memory by eliminating buffer cache. Method: boot, wait for UI to be stable, switch to text console, echo 3 /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches, run free(1) and note the free column, repeat a few times.

[Announce] Sucrose 0.82 Final Release

2008-08-22 Thread Simon Schampijer
Watch out your teeth! The Sucrose 0.82 Final Release is out! Sucrose 0.82 is the latest version of the Sugar education platform, consisting of Glucose, the base system environment; and Fructose, a set of demonstration activities. Sucrose is released every six months and contains many new

Re: [Announce] Sucrose 0.82 Final Release

2008-08-22 Thread victor
Obviously not for diabetics! :) - Original Message - From: Simon Schampijer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sugar List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; OLPC Development devel@lists.laptop.org Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 1:13 PM Subject: [Announce] Sucrose 0.82 Final Release Watch out

New joyride build 2319

2008-08-22 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2319 Changes in build 2319 from build: 2316 Size delta: -0.14M -ds-backup-client 0.7-1.olpc3 +ds-backup-client 0.8.1-1.olpc3 --- Changes for ds-backup-client 0.8.1-1.olpc3 from 0.7-1.olpc3 --- + ea0dc36... Postprocess: fix the uid

Please change PILGRIM_LOCALES_jffs2

2008-08-22 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
Hello, Can someone please change the PILGRIM_LOCALES_jffs2 variable to include the locale rw ? The relevant ticket is at http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8102 Thanks, Sayamindu -- Sayamindu Dasgupta [http://sayamindu.randomink.org/ramblings] ___ Devel

Re: Build 754 (8.2)

2008-08-22 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 1:45 AM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 8:17 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've made build 754 on the stable 8.2 stream, resynchronized to joyride-2313. (See http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/8.2-joyride.html) I've just

Re: [Announce] Sucrose 0.82 Final Release

2008-08-22 Thread Richard Dobson
victor wrote: Obviously not for diabetics! :) I predict the multicore version will be called Cellulose... Richard Dobson ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: OS versioning

2008-08-22 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 2:31 AM, victor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks everyone for their quick and comprehensive responses. Some more information on the correspondence between names and release numbers can be found at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes and

Re: joyride releases

2008-08-22 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 10:48 PM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 22 Aug 2008, at 02:53, Ricardo Carrano wrote: I am reading a ticket (7967) that reports tests based on joyride 2302. But this version did not seem to be released (from 2301 it jumps to 2311). What am I missing?

Fedora User Certificates

2008-08-22 Thread Dennis Gilmore
For all people using koji. Effective immediately we have replaced the CA that is in use for cvs.fedoraproject.org and koji.fedoraproject.org This effects uploading to lookaside cache and building packages. There are some manual steps that everyone needs to do to be able to use the systems

Re: OS versioning

2008-08-22 Thread victor
Thanks. Looking at 8.2.0 release notes I don't see any mention of ticket #7603 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7603 , which I suppose it is an important issue still to be satisfactorily resolved (we seem to have stalled since fedoraproject.org got attacked, as access to Koji is not back up again). We

Fructose 8.2 some activities have not been branched

2008-08-22 Thread Korakurider
Hello. I noticed that Calculate and Pippy have not been branched in repository while other Fructose 8.2 activities were. Actually, when I pushed translations for Calculate of Fructose82 on Pootle, that was committed to master.

New joyride build 2321

2008-08-22 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2321 Changes in build 2321 from build: 2319 Size delta: 0.00M -xorg-x11-drv-geode 2.10.0-1.olpc3.1 +xorg-x11-drv-geode 2.10.1-1.olpc3 -fedora-release 8.93-2 +fedora-release 9-1.1 --- Changes for xorg-x11-drv-geode 2.10.1-1.olpc3 from

localization of translation efforts in perú

2008-08-22 Thread Erik Garrison
Sayamindu, Here at the Ministry of Education in Lima there is a person on staff whose sole work is translation. I want to explain to them how they can go about producing translations for the activity set which is in the customization key which Ciro and I are building here. What is the most

Re: Fedora User Certificates

2008-08-22 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Friday 22 August 2008 12:46:04 pm John Gilmore wrote: Effective immediately we have replaced the CA that is in use for cvs.fedoraproject.org and koji.fedoraproject.org This effects uploading to lookaside cache and building packages. How do we know whether the old CA or the new CA is

Re: Fedora User Certificates

2008-08-22 Thread Dennis Gilmore
Sending again i forgot to sign the first reply On Friday 22 August 2008 12:46:04 pm John Gilmore wrote: Effective immediately we have replaced the CA that is in use for cvs.fedoraproject.org and koji.fedoraproject.org This effects uploading to lookaside cache and building packages. How

OFW Q2E14 is available for testing

2008-08-22 Thread Mitch Bradley
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q2e14 It's the latest and greatest test candidate for 8.2.0, with numerous fixes and a few features. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

New joyride build 2322

2008-08-22 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2322 Changes in build 2322 from build: 2321 Size delta: 0.00M -olpc-licenses 2-1.olpc3 +olpc-licenses 3-1.fc9 --- Changes for olpc-licenses 3-1.fc9 from 2-1.olpc3 --- + Add spanish license translations -- This mail was

Re: Fedora User Certificates

2008-08-22 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Friday 22 August 2008 01:18:44 pm Dennis Gilmore wrote: Sending again i forgot to sign the first reply On Friday 22 August 2008 12:46:04 pm John Gilmore wrote: Effective immediately we have replaced the CA that is in use for cvs.fedoraproject.org and koji.fedoraproject.org This

New joyride build 2323

2008-08-22 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2323 Changes in build 2323 from build: 2322 Size delta: -0.65M -totem-mozplugin 2.23.4-1.olpc3.4 +totem-mozplugin 2.23.4-1.olpc3.5 -libertas-usb8388-firmware 2:5.110.22.p17-1.olpc2 +libertas-usb8388-firmware 2:5.110.22.p17.1-1.olpc3

Re: Fedora User Certificates

2008-08-22 Thread John Gilmore
Isn't it interesting how we have all this public-key infrastructure to secure all these key projects -- but every few years we throw it all out the window and start over -- based on insecure email messages! However if you don't replace the certs you will not have access to cvs or the

Re: localization of translation efforts in perú

2008-08-22 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 11:15 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sayamindu, Here at the Ministry of Education in Lima there is a person on staff whose sole work is translation. I want to explain to them how they can go about producing translations for the activity set which is in the

Re: Fedora User Certificates

2008-08-22 Thread david
On Fri, 22 Aug 2008, John Gilmore wrote: Let's suppose the servers were broken into and severely compromised. (*) What could the miscreants have done that would invalidate every end-user's existing client certificate? There was no break-in to the clients. Why should the clients need to

Re: Fedora User Certificates

2008-08-22 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Friday 22 August 2008 04:30:09 pm John Gilmore wrote: Isn't it interesting how we have all this public-key infrastructure to secure all these key projects -- but every few years we throw it all out the window and start over -- based on insecure email messages! However if you don't replace

Re: New joyride build 2323

2008-08-22 Thread Walter Bender
+ Windows XP suspend/resume support Huh? -walter On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Build Announcer v2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2323 Changes in build 2323 from build: 2322 Size delta: -0.65M -totem-mozplugin 2.23.4-1.olpc3.4

is there something that eats develop.sig ?

2008-08-22 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
q2e12. Had a customization USB stick. OFW would not recognize it. [Found out later that having a USB keyboard plugged in caused this OFW behavior -- when I tried booting without anything external plugged in except the customization USB stick, OFW recognized it.] The system started out with

New joyride build 2324

2008-08-22 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2324 Changes in build 2324 from build: 2323 Size delta: 0.00M -olpcsound 5.08.92-8.olpc3 +olpcsound 5.08.92-11.olpc3 -libX11 1.1.4-2.olpc3 +libX11 1.1.4-3.olpc3 --- Changes for libX11 1.1.4-3.olpc3 from 1.1.4-2.olpc3 --- + More fixes

Weekend 2008/8/22

2008-08-22 Thread Richard A. Smith
* q2e13 EC code had timing issues and broke the mouse on builds =711 (690 included) Richard removed it from the joyride builds and marked it as bad on the wiki. * Richard Fixed the EC timing issues and released EC code pq2e14. Not in a firmware yet but will be soon. * The first full Multi-Battery

jack tests

2008-08-22 Thread victor
Just a quick note that I have done some preliminary tests with jack as an audio server and Csound (now that Koji is back up and I could build an updated package). Performance seems OK, perhaps even slightly better than direct to alsa (but I am only testing at the terminal). I'll test it locally,

New joyride build 2325

2008-08-22 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2325 Changes in build 2325 from build: 2324 Size delta: 0.00M -xkeyboard-config 1.3-2.olpc3 +xkeyboard-config 1.3-3.olpc3 --- Changes for xkeyboard-config 1.3-3.olpc3 from 1.3-2.olpc3 --- + Fixes to the Amharic symbol file (#7474)

Re: Please change PILGRIM_LOCALES_jffs2

2008-08-22 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 07:33:15PM +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: Can someone please change the PILGRIM_LOCALES_jffs2 variable to include the locale rw ? Done. See commit 78fbbc7c on the 8.2 stream (and others on the master, autobuild, and joyride streams.) Michael

updating OLPC_{Region} pages, with a payoff

2008-08-22 Thread S Page
Summary: people who know about deployments, please update the pages in http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Category:Deployments (Is there's a better e-mail list for deployments?) I added deployment data and a timeline of deliveries to Gregs's status in http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployments . It's

Re: [sugar] is there something that eats develop.sig ?

2008-08-22 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 05:17:53PM -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: Is there any documentation about when develop.sig would be erased ? Because our NAND is unpartitioned, reflashing the NAND means that you lose _all_ data stored on NAND. To avoid this problem in the future, either keep your

Weekend 2008/8/22

2008-08-22 Thread Michael Stone
Michael Stone wrote several things that needed to be written, including: * the detailed 8.2.0 release roadmap: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/8.2.0 * a plan for systematic testing of 8.2.0 (to be published soon), to complement the wonderful exploratory testing contributed on devel@ * new

New release8.2 build 755

2008-08-22 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://pilgrim.laptop.org/~pilgrim/xo-1/streams/8.2/build755 Changes in build 755 from build: 754 Size delta: -0.79M -xorg-x11-drv-geode 2.10.0-1.olpc3.1 +xorg-x11-drv-geode 2.10.1-1.olpc3 -totem-mozplugin 2.23.4-1.olpc3.4 +totem-mozplugin 2.23.4-1.olpc3.5 -olpcsound 5.08.92-8.olpc3 +olpcsound

Workaround for the sound lockup?

2008-08-22 Thread Martin Langhoff
Today's testing for the Welly team has been blocked in many cases by the sound lockups. I tried to hardlink /dev/audio to /dev/null but the sound infrastructure didn't fall for it :-/ Is there a cheap / simple way to get this out of the way? Today is gone - but it can help testers until the

Re: Workaround for the sound lockup?

2008-08-22 Thread Chris Ball
Hi Martin, Today's testing for the Welly team has been blocked in many cases by the sound lockups. I tried to hardlink /dev/audio to /dev/null but the sound infrastructure didn't fall for it :-/ Is there a cheap / simple way to get this out of the way? Today is gone - but it

Re: [sugar] is there something that eats develop.sig ?

2008-08-22 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
Is there any documentation about when develop.sig would be erased ? Because our NAND is unpartitioned, reflashing the NAND means that you lose _all_ data stored on NAND. To avoid this problem in the future, either keep your developer key on a USB stick or type 'disable-security' at the OFW

[Server-devel] rssh package - patch to add rsync v3 support

2008-08-22 Thread Martin Langhoff
Rahul, Debarshi, Upstream rssh doesn't support rsync v3 because it scans the rsync cmdline and does not like the new parameter the rsync client is using to indicate the protocol versions it supports. I have cleaned up and applied the patch discussed in the rssh mailing list [1], and made a new

Re: [Server-devel] rssh package - patch to add rsync v3 support

2008-08-22 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 6:25 PM, Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I fixed this in lenny/sid quite some time ago. Are you sure it doesn't work for you? It works fine for me with version 3.0.3 protocol version 30 on both ends. The fix was in 2.3.2-6, and the corresponding Debian bug was

[Server-devel] Fwd: rssh package - patch to add rsync v3 support

2008-08-22 Thread Martin Langhoff
-- Forwarded message -- From: Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 6:59 PM Subject: Re: rssh package - patch to add rsync v3 support To: Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Rahul Sundaram [EMAIL PROTECTED], Debarshi Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jesus Climent [EMAIL

[Server-devel] how many xos can be activated

2008-08-22 Thread dagne.semu
hi everyone, I was wondering how many xo's can be activated at a time from the school server so far. thanks ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel

Re: [Server-devel] Help test OLPC_XS_169 - RC1 for xs-0.4

2008-08-22 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
After upgrading, I got this: Error in named configuration: /etc/named-xs.conf:53: open: /var/named/named.root.hints: file not found It's a broken link: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ls -l /var/named/named.root.hints lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40 2008-07-30 06:44 /var/named/named.root.hints -

Re: [Server-devel] Help test OLPC_XS_169 - RC1 for xs-0.4

2008-08-22 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 3:12 AM, Joshua N Pritikin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After upgrading, I got this: Error in named configuration: /etc/named-xs.conf:53: open: /var/named/named.root.hints: file not found Very weird! It should be looking for /var/named-xs/named.root.hints instead! Can you

Re: [Server-devel] Help test OLPC_XS_169 - RC1 for xs-0.4

2008-08-22 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 05:15:19PM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: Did you run config_domain after the upgrade? No. Should I have? ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel

Re: [Server-devel] Help test OLPC_XS_169 - RC1 for xs-0.4

2008-08-22 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 04:16:38PM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: Might know what the issue is, could you post the contents of /etc/sysconfig/named, OPTIONS='-c /etc/named-xs.conf' /etc/named-xs.conf Attached. just to confirm my suspicions. Also, does /var/named-xs exist? Yes. [EMAIL

Re: [Server-devel] Help test OLPC_XS_169 - RC1 for xs-0.4

2008-08-22 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 01:33:48PM +1200, Martin Langhoff wrote: Odder even. What's your version of xs-config? [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# rpm -q --provides xs-config config(xs-config) = 0.3.5-1 xs-config = 0.3.5-1 ___ Server-devel mailing list