Re: A working TuxPaint-2.xo for 8.1 and 8.2, how to update the wiki?

2008-09-16 Thread Ton van Overbeek
Albert Cahalan wrote: Ton van Overbeek writes: This version (TuxPaint-2) of TuxPaint for the OLPC-XO fixes several issues with the original version (TuxPaint-1) by Albert Calahan. Uh, are you intending to take over? I haven't seen any discussion on the tuxpaint-devel mailing list,

Peru and Microsoft announcement

2008-09-16 Thread Ed McNierney
Folks - There have been a number of questions about press coverage late last week from Peru concerning the introduction of XO laptops running XP and Office. Microsoft has previously ordered a number of XO laptops for XP testing and pilot deployment. The usage and distribution of these machines

Re: Flash tests

2008-09-16 Thread Walter Bender
For consideration in your testing: there are some ways to tune the performance of Flash, such as the video playback hack described here: http://olpcnews.com/forum/index.php?topic=845.0 I don't know if there are similar hacks for improving general performance of Flash (or Gnash) on lesser-powered

Re: Flash tests

2008-09-16 Thread Bobby Powers
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For consideration in your testing: there are some ways to tune the performance of Flash, such as the video playback hack described here: http://olpcnews.com/forum/index.php?topic=845.0 I don't know if there are similar

Re: Flash tests

2008-09-16 Thread Bobby Powers
all my comments are directed at Gregs email, so I suppose I should have replied to him... I hope this doesn't cause too much confusion... bobby On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Bobby Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For

Recovery connector?

2008-09-16 Thread Ricardo Carrano
Hi! It seems that B2s do not have the serial recovery connector. I opened one that seems really bricked (when turned on only the power light is on, and removing battery and AC for some time do not fix it) and found just the place holder for the connector. Is that a way to save this B2? By the

Re: Recovery connector?

2008-09-16 Thread Mitch Bradley
Message: 5 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:58:14 -0400 From: Ricardo Carrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Recovery connector? To: Devel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi! It seems that B2s do not have the serial recovery

Re: Recovery connector?

2008-09-16 Thread Ricardo Carrano
Mitch, Thank you for the answer. Yes, no doubt it is clearly stated in the wiki that this firmware is not to be used on B2. And it was just confirmed that this B2 was updated to a recent build with q2e14. There you go. Let's see if the team have good skills with an iron... Thank you so much!

Re: Peru and Microsoft announcement

2008-09-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
Thanks for talking to us. This would be even more useful as the basis for an article or editorial in one or more of the computer magazines or Web sites, or a fact-filled press release. All of the media people I have talked with say they would like to hear from OLPC. We don't have to frame it as

Re: XOs resisting activation

2008-09-16 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 6:13 AM, Douglas Bagnall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In an effort to test the activation server on the new Fedora 9 based XS, I enabled security on a couple of laptops without leases. I was expecting them to go through their routine of checking USB, SD and network for

New joyride build 2443

2008-09-16 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2443 Changes in build 2443 from build: 2442 Size delta: -0.14M -sugar-update-control 0.12-1 +sugar-update-control 0.13-1 -sugar-toolkit 0.82.7-1.olpc3 +sugar-toolkit 0.82.8-2.olpc3 --- Changes for sugar-update-control 0.13-1 from

Re: semantic black ops for Activities? (Re: Greg Smith's Weekly Report)

2008-09-16 Thread Seth Woodworth
So far the semantic form for activities is very rough in actual data-points and very rough in layout. On the actual form, I think that there needs to be some small changes; a drop down for languages, ability to add wiki-pages in certain fields instead of urls, etc. On the form's display, it

Re: A working TuxPaint-2.xo for 8.1 and 8.2, how to update the wiki?

2008-09-16 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Ton, in talking to Seth and SJ, it seems like the 'registered users only' option has a few more tweaks in practice. You need to be registered *for at least four days* and you need to have made N number of edits already (I think N is three). I poked them to respond to this thread with the exact

Help the Help activity!

2008-09-16 Thread Brian Jordan
The Help activity is about to be used on a bunch of laptops (via the G1G1 activity page/activity updater)! The activity itself was originally written by marcopg, and its content is being (manually) generated from the FlossManuals remix system: http://en.flossmanuals.net/remix . It is a

Re: Recovery connector?

2008-09-16 Thread Richard A. Smith
Ricardo Carrano wrote: confirmed that this B2 was updated to a recent build with q2e14. There you go. Let's see if the team have good skills with an iron... Ricardo, I'm sorry you missed my post on devel that e series firmware would brick B2's. Let me encourage you to replace that B2

Re: XOs resisting activation

2008-09-16 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:04 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need a signed build if you are going to enable security. 759 is not signed. 714 is the most recent signed build. Odd. I am pretty sure we tested the simple lease server (on port 191) before with machines that had

Re: semantic black ops for Activities? (Re: Greg Smith's Weekly Report)

2008-09-16 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 16.09.2008 um 22:27 schrieb Seth Woodworth: So far the semantic form for activities is very rough in actual data- points and very rough in layout. On the actual form, I think that there needs to be some small changes; a drop down for languages, ability to add wiki-pages in certain

Re: XO power consumption under 8.2-759

2008-09-16 Thread Richard A. Smith
John Gilmore wrote: I don't know why my power measurements are much higher than Richard's from February (he got 3.9W to 4.9W where I got 5.9W). I tend to trust his more, since mine are one-shot samples, but my dimmer measurements do tend to corroborate each other (i.e. none of them got

Re: XO power consumption under 8.2-759

2008-09-16 Thread Richard A. Smith
Gary C Martin wrote: I just have a B4 here to test but I was curious to try some power measurement to see how they differed. I seem to have a slightly worrying status that's not listed on the wiki page. Kernel bug. Fixed in current joyride. Also the status values changed and the overall

New joyride build 2444

2008-09-16 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2444 Changes in build 2444 from build: 2443 Size delta: 0.14M -etoys 3.0.2141-1 +etoys 3.0.2147-1 -rainbow 0.7.22-1.fc9 +rainbow 0.7.23-1.fc9 -sugar 0.82.6-1.olpc3 +sugar 0.82.7-1.olpc3 --- Changes for etoys 3.0.2147-1 from 3.0.2141-1

Re: Recovery connector?

2008-09-16 Thread Ricardo Carrano
Hey Richard! On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Richard A. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ricardo Carrano wrote: confirmed that this B2 was updated to a recent build with q2e14. There you go. Let's see if the team have good skills with an iron... Ricardo, I'm sorry you missed my post on

Re: semantic black ops for Activities? (Re: Greg Smith's Weekly Report)

2008-09-16 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 16.09.2008 um 23:14 schrieb Walter Bender: You can add anchors to pages in the wiki, so you could do Activities#X My wiki-fu is not strong enough ... and I do not see anchors mentioned on http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Help:Editing - Bert - ___

Re: Recovery connector?

2008-09-16 Thread Richard A. Smith
Ricardo Carrano wrote: Thank you for your care and advice. This B2s belongs to a University in Rio, that actually has 23 B2s. They are pretty useful devices for networking tests and I am helping this group to mount a sparse mesh testbed with them. We already saved this B2 by using his

Re: Recovery connector?

2008-09-16 Thread Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
On 16.09.2008 18:26, Mitch Bradley wrote: E-series firmware prior to q2e17c will brick B2, as indicated by the bright red warnings at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Firmware . Could you perhaps add a warning for B1 as well (if appropriate)? Regards, Carl-Daniel -- http://www.hailfinger.org/

Re: XO power consumption under 8.2-759

2008-09-16 Thread Richard A. Smith
Richard A. Smith wrote: My measurements were taken with the CPU off across long periods so that activity was minimal. (I spent an entire Sunday taking them as I did other chores). With the CPU off the fluctuation of the power draw is greatly reduced. This could be the reason. I will

Re: Peru and Microsoft announcement

2008-09-16 Thread Pia Waugh
Hi all, quote who=Edward Cherlin This would be even more useful as the basis for an article or editorial in one or more of the computer magazines or Web sites, or a fact-filled press release. All of the media people I have talked with say they would like to hear from OLPC. We don't have

Re: Peru and Microsoft announcement

2008-09-16 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 3:27 AM, Pia Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, quote who=Edward Cherlin This would be even more useful as the basis for an article or editorial in one or more of the computer magazines or Web sites, or a fact-filled press release. All of the media people I have

Re: Peru and Microsoft announcement

2008-09-16 Thread Walter Bender
Jim took over my weekly community news digest for OLPC. It tends to have a lot of information, not necessarily actionable, about deployments. Alas, it tends to be more cheer leading than anything else, where as the technical content has some depth (or at least pointers to some depth). -walter On

Re: semantic black ops for Activities? (Re: Greg Smith's Weekly Report)

2008-09-16 Thread Gary C Martin
On 16 Sep 2008, at 21:54, Bert Freudenberg wrote: As an activity author I'd love to have a single place to edit when a new release is made. The box appearing on the Activities page should be automatically created from the the activity's page, if you know what I mean. I made an

Re: Recovery connector?

2008-09-16 Thread Ricardo Carrano
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Richard A. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ricardo Carrano wrote: Thank you for your care and advice. This B2s belongs to a University in Rio, that actually has 23 B2s. They are pretty useful devices for networking tests and I am helping this group to mount

Re: semantic black ops for Activities? (Re: Greg Smith's Weekly Report)

2008-09-16 Thread Seth Woodworth
Actually, even more interestingly you could update data in any one of these forms, and then call that data in a different format on the [[Activities]] page, the [[/Activities/G1G1]] page, or even in another language. Setting that the Property:LatestVersion for the page [[Help_(activity)]] can be

Re: semantic black ops for Activities? (Re: Greg Smith's Weekly Report)

2008-09-16 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 16.09.2008 um 22:54 schrieb Bert Freudenberg: (hehe, wouldn't http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities#X be a nicer link? No way to do that I fear) Oh, thanks to Walter this works now :) - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

Re: Help the Help activity!

2008-09-16 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
Tried to install (on joyride 2442) with sugar-install-bundle. It gave me the error message: MalformedBundleException: All files in the bundle must be inside a single directory whose name ends with *.activity mikus ___ Devel mailing list

Re: Help the Help activity!

2008-09-16 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I just uploaded a slightly tweaked Help-5.xo which has some minor packaging-related issues fixed. That seems to upgrade fine (for me at least). There are some licensing issues with Help-5 -- it doesn't include the licensing section from the original manual, and claims GPLv2 (only) when

What mechanisms do we have tied to mesh networking?

2008-09-16 Thread Martin Langhoff
We are going forward recommending that medium-to-large networks are based on conventional APs. However, we still have at least one mechanism that works in mesh and not in conventional 802.11.a/b/g . The mechanism I am thinking of is initial lease activation (over port 191) which uses mesh and

[Server-devel] F9 XS - Take it for a spin... updated

2008-09-16 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: with some caveats... this is a developer preview, lots of things are b0rken, but still... some caveats, but now most stuff works. Wohoo! Updated instructions... - download all 759MB of iso here

Re: A working TuxPaint-2.xo for 8.1 and 8.2, how to update the wiki?

2008-09-16 Thread Ton van Overbeek
C. Scott Ananian wrote: Ton, in talking to Seth and SJ, it seems like the 'registered users only' option has a few more tweaks in practice. You need to be registered *for at least four days* and you need to have made N number of edits already (I think N is three). I poked them to respond to

Re: Help the Help activity!

2008-09-16 Thread Brian Jordan
Thanks Scott, and apologies to all -- I did a crap job bundling help-3 via zip (I was just told to get an activity bundle out quickly so people can hack on/fix it). Using setup.py is much, much better -- and look, it makes a MANIFEST :-D And for the lazy, you can get help-5: (1) through the

Re: Peru and Microsoft announcement

2008-09-16 Thread Ricardo Carrano
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Pia Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, quote who=Edward Cherlin This would be even more useful as the basis for an article or editorial in one or more of the computer magazines or Web sites, or a fact-filled press release. All of the media people I have

Re: mechanisms tied to mesh: under a tree collab

2008-09-16 Thread John Gilmore
[I posted bug #8524 re lease activation not working on AP's.] Another mechanism that only works on Mesh is sharing under a tree. It's perfectly feasible for four or five kids with laptops, all sitting under a tree, to share over ad-hoc 802.11 mode. They don't need a mesh that forwards packets;

Re: Peru and Microsoft announcement

2008-09-16 Thread Samuel Klein
Hi Pia, On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Pia Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: quote who=Edward Cherlin This would be even more useful as the basis for an article or editorial in one or more of the computer magazines or Web sites, or a fact-filled press release. All of the media people I have

Re: mechanisms tied to mesh: under a tree collab

2008-09-16 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 12:46 PM, John Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [I posted bug #8524 re lease activation not working on AP's.] Another mechanism that only works on Mesh is sharing under a tree. Ah, this is a bit of a misunderstanding :-) - The laptops will continue to have mesh

Re: mechanisms tied to mesh: under a tree collab

2008-09-16 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Gilmore wrote: | [I posted bug #8524 re lease activation not working on AP's.] | | Another mechanism that only works on Mesh is sharing under a tree. | | It's perfectly feasible for four or five kids with laptops, all | sitting under a tree, to

Re: mechanisms tied to mesh: under a tree collab

2008-09-16 Thread Ricardo Carrano
John, On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 9:46 PM, John Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [I posted bug #8524 re lease activation not working on AP's.] Another mechanism that only works on Mesh is sharing under a tree. It's perfectly feasible for four or five kids with laptops, all sitting under a tree,

Re: mechanisms tied to mesh: under a tree collab

2008-09-16 Thread Walter Bender
(Actually, Sugar will also find any nearby Macs running Avahi, but doesn't quite know what to do with them.) Chat between Bonjour clients works today. So the XOs know some things to do with a MAC. -walter ___ Devel mailing list

[Server-devel] anaconda deletes /fsckoptions on F9 based XS

2008-09-16 Thread Douglas Bagnall
hi, The xs-config package creates a file called /fsckoptions (yes, in /), to stop headless servers from stalling on fsck questions. This file is deleted by anaconda, some time after the end of ks.cfg's %post section. To be sure, I used: %post #[...] if [ -e /fsckoptions ]; then touch

Re: #7898 LOW 8.2.0 (: Sugar handbook should not be in PDF

2008-09-16 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
Sorry, can't connect to Trac atm as I'm dialing in via my mobile phone. Why is the Activity Handbook depreciated? And what's the connection to the help activity? The Activity Handbook (just like the Sugar Almanac) is targeted at people who are interested in developing activities for the Sugar

Public Relations, regular updates and news (was: Peru and Microsoft announcement)

2008-09-16 Thread Ixo X oxI
And to add 2 cents further,. . . about public announcements and reports of current events... . . . about 6 months ago a handful of us cheerful support-gang volunteer types started to put together a 'public friendly' newsletter of the various happenings we got one issue out, and then no

Re: mechanisms tied to mesh: under a tree collab

2008-09-16 Thread Stephen Thorne
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - under a tree using mesh+avahi, and - G1G1 users at a cafe with wifi using AP and avahi When at a cafe with wifi, the laptops should be able to contact their jabber server, which will mean they will be using

Re: mechanisms tied to mesh: under a tree collab

2008-09-16 Thread James Cameron
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 03:07:35PM +1000, Stephen Thorne wrote: This means two laptops from neighbouring schools who each have their 'own' schoolserver set up as their jabber server will not be able to share any content if they are close enough to receive wireless signal to the internet.

Re: mechanisms tied to mesh: under a tree collab

2008-09-16 Thread John Gilmore
Ricardo Carrano said: There are technical challenges in the way, but OLPC should keep pushing this for the benefits it will bring. It seems a perfect fit with the Mission. Mesh and the Marvell WiFi chip have been two of the big disappointments of the OLPC. The mesh implementation simply

[Server-devel] Looking at edublog moodle code --

2008-09-16 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Tarun, I'm looking briefly at edublog's moodle code. Was hoping to be able to cherry-pick the patches making the html editor changes, but your initial moodle commit is with the _modified_ moodle already...? I am looking at ab1232242ab51336e9b0fc9aed1443bc35fe1d49 - but from what I can see,

Re: mechanisms tied to mesh: under a tree collab

2008-09-16 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 5:26 PM, John Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My understanding is that it works automagically between XOs on the same AP -- but may have limitations and possibly bugs as it's not something we push (and it's not something we test

Re: XOs resisting activation

2008-09-16 Thread Douglas Bagnall
Scott wrote: You need a signed build if you are going to enable security. 759 is not signed. 714 is the most recent signed build. The 4 button install of 714 worked; thanks Scott and Mitch. In the process, I noticed that it looks to download fs.zip from the school server. That is quite