Re: Devel Digest, Vol 32, Issue 13

2008-10-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't have an XS to test this with though it does look like cool tech. Wonder if there are any takers out there? On Oct 4, 2008, at 10:27 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Mitch Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could also try out the multicast nand update thing

Re: New joyride build 2506 - q2e19

2008-10-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mitch, Do you know if trac 8451 is going to be fixed for the G1G1V2 image being delivered to quanta? I think it is a bad idea delivering a self test that is broken. Could have bad PR implications. Just my 2 cents and 20 odd years of SQA experience on a diverse range of products. /Robert

Re: New joyride build 2506 - q2e19

2008-10-05 Thread Mitch Bradley
The G1G1V2 build is going to get Q2E18. Do you know of brokenness in its selftest? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mitch, Do you know if trac 8451 is going to be fixed for the G1G1V2 image being delivered to quanta? I think it is a bad idea delivering a self test that is broken. Could have

Re: New joyride build 2506 - q2e19

2008-10-05 Thread Mitch Bradley
I'm sorry, I've been reading e19 where you say e18. e18 is what is going to manufacturing. It's unfortunate that the selftest is broken, but we don't have time to re-qualify a new release. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mitch, Do you know if trac 8451 is going to be fixed for the G1G1V2 image

OFW trackpad test woes

2008-10-05 Thread Mitch Bradley
http://dev.laptop.org/~wmb/q2e19a.rom is a test build that purports to fix http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8451#comment:7 (This Time For Sure !) If anybody is just itching to test a bleeding edge OFW, this is your chance. (Okay, so it's not really all that bleeding. It's not too different from

Re: 5 sec boot

2008-10-05 Thread Jim Gettys
On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 16:32 -1000, Mitch Bradley wrote: I have considered something like that off and on. It's sort of nice to have a definite length for the images. There are ways around that, but they are a bit ugly at some level. It's sort of a tossup at some level. One difficultly

Re: OFW trackpad test woes

2008-10-05 Thread Gary C Martin
On 5 Oct 2008, at 10:48, Mitch Bradley wrote: http://dev.laptop.org/~wmb/q2e19a.rom is a test build that purports to fix http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8451#comment:7 (This Time For Sure !) If anybody is just itching to test a bleeding edge OFW, this is your chance. (Okay, so it's not really

Re: OFW trackpad test woes

2008-10-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mitch, Just been testing q2e19a and the self test mode is still buggy. I am testing with a G1G1 laptop with Alps trackpad. Seen several different things happen. I ran the complete self test a couple of times by cold booting with the left rocker held down. 1.) One time when it went into the

Re: 5 sec boot

2008-10-05 Thread david
On Sat, 4 Oct 2008, Mitch Bradley wrote: Deepak Saxena wrote: On Oct 03 2008, at 07:34, Mitch Bradley was caught saying: If it is stored deocompressed to begin with on the filesystem, we can simply read it into mem from flash and run. This would require a few extra MiB of flash.

Re: 5 sec boot

2008-10-05 Thread NoiseEHC
can you do the hash as you copy it? it should be pretty close to free at that point (since the CPU is waiting for memory/flash access it can do the hash calculationwhen it would otherwise be stalled) According to my measurements the GeodeLX can fetch a new cache line (32 bytes) every

Re: 5 sec boot

2008-10-05 Thread david
On Sun, 5 Oct 2008, NoiseEHC wrote: can you do the hash as you copy it? it should be pretty close to free at that point (since the CPU is waiting for memory/flash access it can do the hash calculationwhen it would otherwise be stalled) According to my measurements the GeodeLX can fetch a

Re: 5 sec boot

2008-10-05 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, Then again, since ubifs mounts quickly, the largest reason for partitioning we've had (to reduce boot time) evaporates. There may be other reasons to want partitioning, given dynamic resizing a'la lvm, however. You don't mention the fundamental reason that we need

Re: 5 sec boot

2008-10-05 Thread NoiseEHC
On Sun, 5 Oct 2008, NoiseEHC wrote: can you do the hash as you copy it? it should be pretty close to free at that point (since the CPU is waiting for memory/flash access it can do the hash calculationwhen it would otherwise be stalled) According to my measurements the GeodeLX can fetch

GentooXO

2008-10-05 Thread Sameer Verma
Had to happen sooner or later. Gentoo for the XO. http://www.gentooxo.org/ Its a Stage 4 build, so don't worry. You won't have to actually compile/build it on your XO ;-) cheers, Sameer -- Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Information Systems San Francisco State University San

Re: 5 sec boot

2008-10-05 Thread Jim Gettys
There is a C routine available for doing the initial read from the file system. We don't have to do it from scratch... Bull. Flag. Red - Jim On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 13:00 -0400, Chris Ball wrote: Hi, Then again, since ubifs mounts quickly, the largest reason

Re: 5 sec boot

2008-10-05 Thread Mitch Bradley
Memory to memory copy: 500 MB/s Raw NAND FLASH read:20 MB/s Security hash: 4 MB/s So overlapping hash calculation with NAND FLASH read is of limited value, and trying to overlap anything with memory copy is almost certainly counterproductive. This discussion seem to be

Friends in testing has wrong Valid until start date for candidate-767

2008-10-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Friends_in_testing Friends in testing has wrong Valid until start date for candidate-767 It displays: Current test image: candidate-767 --Michael Stone 23 September 2008; valid until next Wednesday. This needs fixing ___

Build 767 - yum update problem

2008-10-05 Thread Carlos Nazareno
Hi all. Looks like my previous problem with yum update was with build 766 itself, not due to to any repositories I added. I just installed a fresh copy of build 767 via USB stick, installed latest version of activities, updated activities, then did: su yum update After yum update had

Re: 5 sec boot

2008-10-05 Thread NoiseEHC
When I will finally have some time (currently I am working even on weekends) I will finish my half made zlib decompression code. Where is that Security hash's code? Mitch Bradley wrote: Memory to memory copy: 500 MB/s Raw NAND FLASH read:20 MB/s Security hash: 4 MB/s So

Re: 5 sec boot

2008-10-05 Thread Mitch Bradley
NoiseEHC wrote: When I will finally have some time (currently I am working even on weekends) I will finish my half made zlib decompression code. To what end? AFAIK the zlib decompression (both in OFW and in the OS) is not one of the primary problem areas. Where is that Security hash's

Re: OFW trackpad test woes

2008-10-05 Thread Mitch Bradley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mitch, Just been testing q2e19a and the self test mode is still buggy. I am testing with a G1G1 laptop with Alps trackpad. Seen several different things happen. I ran the complete self test a couple of times by cold booting with the left rocker held down. 1.)

Re: OFW trackpad test woes

2008-10-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Oct 5, 2008, at 11:54 AM, Mitch Bradley wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mitch, Just been testing q2e19a and the self test mode is still buggy. I am testing with a G1G1 laptop with Alps trackpad. Seen several different things happen. I ran the complete self test a couple of times by

Gnash 0.8.3 bugs - 767 + Flash developer perspective

2008-10-05 Thread Carlos Nazareno
Hi all! I wasn't able to get sound working with Gnash 0.8.3 shipped with build 766 mostly because I wasn't sure what I was doing and was just following the advice of the folks in the list. Anyway, what I did was to install Fedora 9 in a VM on my desktop and try installing Gnash 0.8.3 there (the

Re: 5 sec boot

2008-10-05 Thread NoiseEHC
To what end? AFAIK the zlib decompression (both in OFW and in the OS) is not one of the primary problem areas. Changing fs read from CPU bound to IO bound would change a lot of things, for example the boot could utilize a little bit of more concurrency. Unfortunately we will only see its

Re: 5 sec boot

2008-10-05 Thread pgf
mitch wrote: Deepak Saxena wrote: On Oct 04 2008, at 15:49, Mitch Bradley was caught saying: c) Raw FLASH read time maxes out at 20 MB/sec. But you don't get that speed from the filesystem; JFFS2 is good for between 5 and 10 MB/sec. Considering all the intricacies of

Re: 5 sec boot

2008-10-05 Thread Mitch Bradley
NoiseEHC wrote: To what end? AFAIK the zlib decompression (both in OFW and in the OS) is not one of the primary problem areas. Changing fs read from CPU bound to IO bound would change a lot of things, for example the boot could utilize a little bit of more concurrency. Unfortunately we

Re: New joyride build 2506 - q2e19

2008-10-05 Thread Richard A. Smith
Mitch Bradley wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another strange thing I see with q2e19 is that at 19% battery, according to the battery gauge, the battery indicatory lamp started flashing red and orange. That would be a function of the EC code. Richard, any thoughts? Yes. That is one

Re: 5 sec boot

2008-10-05 Thread Mitch Bradley
On a related topic, I would like to see us start bundling the initrd into the kernel image. It's certainly possible to do that with existing into? i'd rather see it simply concatenated, By into, I mean in the same file. The existing kernel mechanism that I have looked at involves

Re: testing ejabberd

2008-10-05 Thread Douglas Bagnall
Gary C Martin wrote: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Ejabberd_resource_tests#Try_4:_a_few_thousand_users One extra figure that would be interesting is the server response latency to client requests, not sure if hyperactivity gives you that easily. No, I don't think hyperactivity does measure

Re: Build 767 - yum update problem

2008-10-05 Thread Robert Myers
Carlos, Looks like my previous problem with yum update was with build 766 itself, not due to to any repositories I added. I just installed a fresh copy of build 767 via USB stick, installed latest version of activities, updated activities, then did: su yum update After yum update had

Re: OFW trackpad test woes

2008-10-05 Thread Richard A. Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggest that item 3. be release noted then. By the way if an Alps trackpad goes bad will it be possible to swap in a Synaptics track pad or is that physically impossible Care was taken to make sure that electrical compatibility was maintained. The new units

Fwd: Pseudo-locales for i18n testing by English speakers

2008-10-05 Thread Martin Langhoff
This is the start of a rather interesting thread in fedora-devel-list. It seems like a very easy way to push the envelope a bit on i18n/l10n support, something that even G1G1 testers can help us with. I've already cross-posted it to moodle.org where it immediately revealed a bug. --

Re: Pseudo-locales for i18n testing by English speakers

2008-10-05 Thread Douglas Bagnall
A data point, just because I have a script that does this stuff: Of the 118 activities linked from [[Activities]], the following have a pseudo linfo field, and the asterisked ones have actual pseudo-ised data. org.laptop.MeasureActivity (Measure) org.laptop.Pippy (Pippy)

Re: [Server-devel] testing ejabberd

2008-10-05 Thread Douglas Bagnall
Gary C Martin wrote: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Ejabberd_resource_tests#Try_4:_a_few_thousand_users One extra figure that would be interesting is the server response latency to client requests, not sure if hyperactivity gives you that easily. No, I don't think hyperactivity does measure

Re: [Server-devel] TinyMCE in Moodle

2008-10-05 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 2:10 AM, Tarun Pondicherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's great! With the ou blog fixes and tinyMCE integration already in HEAD, the edublog changes will be much easier to clean up and integrate. And here we go: http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=107550 So what

Re: [Server-devel] Server-devel Digest, Vol 18, Issue 6

2008-10-05 Thread Bryan Berry
Martin Langhoff wrote: Been ruminating on this a bit. The more I think about it, the more clear it is that DG on the XS is not a good long term solution. DG may not be a good long term solution, but the pilots need it asap and it still isn't part of the default install. Greg is right that the

Re: [Server-devel] Nepal XS

2008-10-05 Thread Bryan Berry
On Mon, 2008-10-06 at 09:18 +0545, Martin Langhoff Wrote wrote: For example, use two XOs to verify ejabberd functionality. Use browse to verify that the schoolserver link delivers the Moodle (site) home page. Use browse to verify internet connectivity. Try to access a 'forbidden'

Re: [Server-devel] Nepal XS

2008-10-05 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Bryan Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Such tests would save Tony a ton of time testing a new XS install, whether it be 0.4, 0.5-0.9 I suspect they would save time for others as well. We are working with a core team of 2, soon to shink to 1 1/2. There is a *very*

[Server-devel] Using Moodle: Pseudolocales trick for i18n/l10n testing

2008-10-05 Thread Martin Langhoff
We care about l18n to non-latin languages more than most so I cross-pollinated this idea to moodle.org -- and *already* hit a bug :-) http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=107555#p472760 -- Forwarded message -- From: Martín Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at