Announcing the NANDblaster

2008-12-05 Thread Mitch Bradley
The multicast NAND reflasher - AKA NANDblaster - is ready for serious testing. See http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Multicast_NAND_FLASH_Update for instructions. Mitch ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Fedora 10 on XO

2008-12-05 Thread Peter Robinson
is xfce the right choice? i know it's easy, but we should be sure it's correct. (i've been using it on my own xo, in a relatively unsophisticated way, but in the end that only makes it feel like an unsophisticated interface, so i may not be the best judge. :-) I agree that

Re: Fedora 10 on XO

2008-12-05 Thread Peter Robinson
is xfce the right choice? i know it's easy, but we should be sure it's correct. (i've been using it on my own xo, in a relatively unsophisticated way, but in the end that only makes it feel like an unsophisticated interface, so i may not be the best judge. :-) I agree

Re: Announcing the NANDblaster

2008-12-05 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 05.12.2008, at 09:53, Mitch Bradley wrote: The multicast NAND reflasher - AKA NANDblaster - is ready for serious testing. See http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Multicast_NAND_FLASH_Update for instructions. Mitch Wow, that's great! With that reflashing many laptops might even be fun, just

RE: Music Keyboard for TamTam?

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Re: Announcing the NANDblaster

2008-12-05 Thread quozl
On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 11:28:45AM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: Wow, that's great! With that reflashing many laptops might even be fun, just watching the blinkenlights ;) The wireless LEDs are not enabled, you have to watch the screen instead. (Not a complaint, merely an observation, as the

Re: Sugar XFCE

2008-12-05 Thread Carlos Nazareno
Hi all. OLPC dev considering the support of XFCE in future builds is music to my ears. After getting to experience hands on an actual XO machine running Sugar a few months ago, I encountered the following issues: 1) The Journal / lack of a real file manager: a) accumulation of too many no

Re: wiki.laptop.org upgrade

2008-12-05 Thread Ed McNierney
Mikus - I'd be happy to help, but I'm not sure I understand your suggestion. I don't understand what legal consequences you're thinking about - if you can give me more details I can try to investigate. But your statement sounds like what I was trying to say: the community of people who rely on

Re: Fedora 10 on XO

2008-12-05 Thread Ed McNierney
Chris - Thanks; I think your thoughts are rather similar to mine and I am trying to get information on what the actual user need (or perceived need) is. While there are obvious storage and RAM constraints involved, we need to be sure we're providing what most users will want (users of this

Re: Announcing the NANDblaster

2008-12-05 Thread Ed McNierney
Thanks, Mitch! Nice stuff. - Ed On 12/5/08 3:53 AM, Mitch Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The multicast NAND reflasher - AKA NANDblaster - is ready for serious testing. See http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Multicast_NAND_FLASH_Update for instructions. Mitch

Re: [Sugar-devel] File transfer in Telepathy

2008-12-05 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Guillaume, Thanks for reading it over and commenting. I dropped the sugar list and moved this to devel. If someone (Tomeu?) thinks it should be back on Sugar devel, forward as needed. See original threads here: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2008-December/010122.html and

Re: [Sugar-devel] File transfer in Telepathy

2008-12-05 Thread Eben Eliason
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guillaume, Thanks for reading it over and commenting. I dropped the sugar list and moved this to devel. If someone (Tomeu?) thinks it should be back on Sugar devel, forward as needed. See original threads here:

Re: [Server-devel] XS 0.5 Second Attempt at eth1

2008-12-05 Thread Reuben K. Caron
After doing a clean install 4 times and dhcpd not starting I investigated a bit more and I found: When I cd /etc/sysconfig/olpc-scripts ./domain_config xs5.org It creates the xs_domain_name file in /etc/sysconfig/olpc-scripts/ However, /etc/sysconfig/dhcpd looks for this file in

Re: [Server-devel] XS 0.5 Second Attempt at eth1

2008-12-05 Thread Reuben K. Caron
Now that I have DHCPD running on a clean install. I can report that it still does not hand out IPs. When I assign my laptop ethernet adapter as 172.18.96.1 and 172.18.0.1 I do get an ARP error from the server; however, when I bump it up one address 172.18.0.2 it still does not ping. Martin

Re: wiki.laptop.org upgrade

2008-12-05 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 07:11:04AM -0500, Ed McNierney wrote: Michael - Thanks; welcome back! I have been working on the request you made last week, and on trying to have something out this week as I said I would. Good to hear. It's been important to me to ensure I'm reflecting OLPC's

Re: Fedora 10 on XO

2008-12-05 Thread Erik Garrison
On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 06:36:53PM -0500, Greg Smith wrote: * Will it stop us from being able to hold two SugarOS builds on the NAND at the same time after olpc-update, as we do now? GS - Possibly depending on space needed. I think we would consider losing that feature if needed. tbd. I'm

Re: Sugar XFCE

2008-12-05 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
Carlos wrote (regarding Sugar on an XO): Apps need to be sugarized. This is true when Sugar is the primary interface of the target user population. But the Subject of this topic is XFCE. I am going to make the assumption that an user sophisticated enough to use XFCE will be sophisticated

Re: Fedora 10 on XO

2008-12-05 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Erik, My general impression is that its not used that often. Mostly because very few deployments have upgraded and some may choose to clean install when they do. The main value of it is for Beta testers and technical people who work on validating the new releases. Hopefully this feature is

Re: Fedora 10 on XO

2008-12-05 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Chris, That sounds good! Please call up Dr. Frankenstein and resurrect the beast for inspection :-) Can you also put a link to any description of it (or to the code, relevant e-mail threads or whatever is available) in the specifications section of the feature? Thanks, Greg S Chris Ball

Re: Fedora 10 on XO

2008-12-05 Thread Eben Eliason
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 06:36:53PM -0500, Greg Smith wrote: * Will it stop us from being able to hold two SugarOS builds on the NAND at the same time after olpc-update, as we do now? GS - Possibly depending on space

Re: Fedora 10 on XO

2008-12-05 Thread Sameer Verma
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 4:22 AM, Ed McNierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris - Thanks; I think your thoughts are rather similar to mine and I am trying to get information on what the actual user need (or perceived need) is. This is a very important point from the adoption perspective. User

Re: XO identity shared via Browse

2008-12-05 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Luke, If you're interested in Sugar on XO, I believe that Tomeu et al want you on devel... Anyway I'll try to copy you on this thread. It would be useful to have a generic solution which works with many types of server software and many network configurations. However, this is where I need

Re: XO identity shared via Browse

2008-12-05 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Luke, If you're interested in Sugar on XO, I believe that Tomeu et al want you on devel... Anyway I'll try to copy you on this thread. Well, as long as there's a chance what is discussed here will interest Sugar on other

New joyride build 2574

2008-12-05 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2574 Changes in build 2574 from build: 2573 Size delta: 0.13M -libasyncns 0.7-1.olpc3 +libasyncns 0.7-1.fc10 -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride-pkgs.html for aggregate logs See

New joyride build 2574

2008-12-05 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2574 Changes in build 2574 from build: 2573 Size delta: 0.13M -libasyncns 0.7-1.olpc3 +libasyncns 0.7-1.fc10 -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride-pkgs.html for aggregate logs See

Re: Sugar XFCE

2008-12-05 Thread Sebastian Silva
Here's a delicate scenario that I see: Inevitably, when comparing the XOs running Sugar to those running Windows for evaluation (this is happening *right now*) - MMSs (that is, MicrosoftMinistries) will argue not only on GNU+Linux vs. Windows technical merits, but also the GUI will come up as a

Re: Sugar XFCE

2008-12-05 Thread david
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Sebastian Silva wrote: Here's a delicate scenario that I see: Inevitably, when comparing the XOs running Sugar to those running Windows for evaluation (this is happening *right now*) - MMSs (that is, MicrosoftMinistries) will argue not only on GNU+Linux vs. Windows

Re: Sugar XFCE

2008-12-05 Thread Sebastian Silva
Or you can just yum install xfce* and work your way to nirvana from there. Sebastian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Sebastian Silva wrote: Here's a delicate scenario that I see: Inevitably, when comparing the XOs running Sugar to those running Windows for evaluation (this is

Re: Sugar XFCE

2008-12-05 Thread Sebastian Silva
But now that you mentioned it, bonus points for getting a tightly integrated Debian based XFCE4 (with as little trouble as possible). Only thing I dont like about this is losing the native and standard sugar... but oh well its just to compare and make adults feel more at home. Sebastian

Re: Sugar XFCE

2008-12-05 Thread david
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Sebastian Silva wrote: But now that you mentioned it, bonus points for getting a tightly integrated Debian based XFCE4 (with as little trouble as possible). Only thing I dont like about this is losing the native and standard sugar... but oh well its just to compare and

Re: Sugar XFCE

2008-12-05 Thread pgf
sebastian wrote: Or you can just yum install xfce* and work your way to nirvana from there. Sebastian indeed. this is how i run my G1G1. A simple Do you want to run sugar? dialog that runs from .xsession determines which manager i run. what i've never done is make XFCE nice -- and it's

Re: [Server-devel] XS 0.5 Second Attempt at eth1

2008-12-05 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Raúl Gutiérrez Segalés [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was hit by the same problem last week.. ARP works but no ping nor IP messages seem to get through. I am far away from the server now but I think the NIC was a CNet. I hate to be away from my test machines.

Re: Sugar XFCE

2008-12-05 Thread Sebastian Silva
Ok, so my point is this: If this is the quickest / simplest / best way to get a XFCE system as tightly integrated to the XO, then this should be in a very visible place and spread around. As much as I love sugar, I'd vehemently prefer to have XFCE + GNU than Sugar + Windows. Sebastian [EMAIL

Re: [Localization] [sugar] [Proposal] .xot bundles for translations

2008-12-05 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 7:56 PM, Alexander Dupuy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: via fink, but it's worth remembering that translation packages are not 'by definition noarch' - if the packages contain compiled gettext .mo files, those files may be machine-specific. As noted in

Re: support for more traditional UIs/apps

2008-12-05 Thread Carlos Nazareno
I am going to make the assumption that an user sophisticated enough to use XFCE will be sophisticated enough not to need the simplified GUI that sugarization provides. Hi Mikus! Precisely. And I think 9-year olds and up fall in this category. And besides, re: XFCE, GNOME, KDEI mean how hard

Re: Fedora 10 on XO

2008-12-05 Thread Jameson Quinn
I'm in xubuntu (xfce) right now, and it is noticeably faster on my 1.2 GHz machine than Gnome (same kernel and everything). It also has network manager, automount, graphical control panels, all the mod cons. I'd say that if we could get something roughly nearing this level, then XFCE is probably

Re: [Localization] [sugar] [Proposal] .xot bundles for translations

2008-12-05 Thread Alexander Dupuy
Martin Langhoff wrote: Using rpm or apt Sugar would getting a bit further away from Windows (does cygwin carry either?) - a bit less so on OSX (where the fink toolchain will probably work alright, specially with translation pkgs, which are by definition noarch). I don't think that this

Re: Sugar XFCE

2008-12-05 Thread Carlos Nazareno
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 4:35 AM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Edward! 1) The Journal / lack of a real file manager: Simple remedy/workaround: In Terminal, yum install mc Yes, I know about running midnight commander from the terminal and have been using it for months now, but it

Re: Emulating 8.2-767

2008-12-05 Thread Joshua Minor
This is great. Thank you so much for making this work in VMWare again. Most of the stuff I tried worked just like on my XO. Record sort of works with the iSight on my iMac (the full preview is black, but it still records video). Also, olpcgames seems confused about the screen size, so

Re: Fedora 10 on XO

2008-12-05 Thread Sebastian Silva
+1 In fact, to be specific, here in Perú, the former president of APESOL (Peruvian Free Software Association) is sometimes quoted as saying OLPC is pretty cool except for Sugar. I've seen this attitude among many geeks here. That is fine, for it was not designed with them in mind. Still, if a

Re: Sugar XFCE

2008-12-05 Thread Neil Graham
On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 19:37 +0800, Carlos Nazareno wrote: These days, 433MHz may seem unusable to the average Moore's law-spoiled user, but it was more than enough for me who grew up on a 4.77MHz 8088 as a kid (yeah, that's nothing to you guys over here who are older :P), a Pentium 166 MMX

New joyride build 2575

2008-12-05 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2575 Changes in build 2575 from build: 2574 Size delta: -0.13M -sugar-evince-python 2.24.1-1.fc9 +sugar-evince-python 2.24.1-1.olpc4 -dbus-x11 1.2.4-1.fc10 +dbus-x11 1.2.6-1.fc10 -db4 4.7.25-5.fc10 +db4 4.7.25-6.fc10 -dbus 1.2.4-1.fc10

Re: Sugar XFCE (melting treacle)

2008-12-05 Thread John Gilmore
That doesn't change the fact that using the XO is like walking neck deep in treacle. ... The real problem there is it's hard to isolate the slowness, I think largely due to the fact that the problems aren't isolated. Is there any central repository for information about where the speed is

Re: [Server-devel] XS 0.5 Second Attempt at eth1

2008-12-05 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 12:06 AM, Jerry Vonau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anna wrote: So, what are the repercussions of this? Not sure... Martin? Good sleuthing! Bonding-related errors was the last thing I'd imagined, and with the e1000 driver too -- it's widely used and generally well maintained.

Re: [Server-devel] XS 0.5 Second Attempt at eth1

2008-12-05 Thread Anna
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 5:04 AM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Anna, what's your NIC? Ideally, we want to know the marketing make/name/model and what lspci reports for it. Perhaps I can get my hands on the same hw you have. I'm currently testing on two machines. They're both circa

Re: [Server-devel] XS 0.5 Second Attempt at eth1

2008-12-05 Thread Raúl Gutiérrez Segalés
I was hit by the same problem last week.. ARP works but no ping nor IP messages seem to get through. I am far away from the server now but I think the NIC was a CNet. On Vie, 5 de Diciembre de 2008, 12:34 pm, Reuben K. Caron wrote: Now that I have DHCPD running on a clean install. I can report

Re: [Server-devel] Server-devel Digest, Vol 20, Issue 7

2008-12-05 Thread Eroni Tuiloma
with the Dell GX270, because our deployment got hold of a couple dozen of them to use as XS's. Anna Schoolfield Birmingham -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/server-devel/attachments/20081205/70c8d5d9/attachment