Some firmware Q2E24 nand blasting results

2008-12-12 Thread Gary C Martin
Here's a first pass focusing on Q2E24 nand blasting between 2 XOs (one B4 and one XO-1). These tests only used the new nb-clone OFW command of an 8.2.1-760 image. I'll try testing the nb-update and nb-secure later (hopefully once I get a 3rd XO unlocked for unsigned firmware testing).

Re: Some firmware Q2E24 nand blasting results

2008-12-12 Thread James Cameron
Indeed it is excellent stuff ... I've not flawed it here in several tests. Well done Mitch. -- James Cameronmailto:qu...@us.netrek.org http://quozl.netrek.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

SugarLabs Sur - Libre Social Network Project

2008-12-12 Thread Sebastian Silva
Friends of our community, I'd like to introduce you to a project that Rafael, me, Alejandro (proj.man.) , Antonio (django wiz), Alfredo (theather educ) and Jose (mathematics professor at the UNMSM) have been working on. It is our proposed strategy for training and supporting a large rural and

Re: Some firmware Q2E24 nand blasting results

2008-12-12 Thread Ties Stuij
Yes, this is really nice. Will make flashing thousands of xo's a lot easier if we can't get our custom image preinstalled (not so covert plea slipped in here somehow). Worked fine over here in the tests done so far. thanks, /Ties On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:05 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org

Re: Some firmware Q2E24 nand blasting results

2008-12-12 Thread Mitch Bradley
Gary C Martin wrote: Q2E24 general observation: First key press at ok prompt is dropped (kept catching me out and making initial typos) not sure if this is worth a ticket. Here's my guess for what is causing the loss of first key: To get to the ok prompt, you have to type to ESC key. That

Re: Some firmware Q2E24 nand blasting results

2008-12-12 Thread Mitch Bradley
Here's an opportunity for you folks to exercise some creativity: Develop an efficient logistics procedure for NANDblasting thousands of machines effectively. Where to put the machines (tables, floor, shelves, ...), the power adapters (or is it okay to use battery power), the boxes as they are

Re: 8.2.1 builds now underway.

2008-12-12 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 12.12.2008, at 01:37, Michael Stone wrote: P.S. - People who maintain build-announcers -- please update them; they're really helpful! Thanks! http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/8.2.1-pkgs.html - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

Re: Collaboration using qemu emulation

2008-12-12 Thread Bert Freudenberg
(redirecting to devel lists) On 12.12.2008, at 08:52, Morgan Collett wrote: b.2) Run your own Jabber server. This requires ejabberd, with some custom patches, which until recently meant compiling ejabberd from source. Now however the required patches have been added to ejabberd in debian and

Re: Some firmware Q2E24 nand blasting results

2008-12-12 Thread James Cameron
I've been able to reproduce Gary's symptom by waiting for the jingle and then holding down the ESC key. Simple rule, don't hold it down. Doesn't hurt much. -- James Cameronmailto:qu...@us.netrek.org http://quozl.netrek.org/ ___ Devel mailing

[Server-devel] How to Post with GIT

2008-12-12 Thread Lucas Wojciehcowski
I have created some simple code for Moodle which improves the workflow for the user (per trac ticket #9021 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9021). I have committed the changes to the GIT rep locally, but when I try send the changes to the server with the command: git-push

Soliciting OFW testers

2008-12-12 Thread Mitch Bradley
I've just released OFW Q2E24 ( http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q2e24 ) which is a test candidate for the upcoming 8.2.1 release. There are a couple of things that could use some testing, so I'm soliciting help. Firstly, if you have 2 or more XOs and are willing to overwrite the NAND

Re: [Server-devel] How to Post with GIT

2008-12-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
2008/12/12 Lucas Wojciehcowski msa.swim...@gmail.com: I have created some simple code for Moodle which improves the workflow for the user (per trac ticket #9021). I have committed the changes to the GIT rep locally, but when I try send the changes to the server with the command: git-push

1cc outage

2008-12-12 Thread Henry Edward Hardy
Network services to 1cc were down this morning Friday December 12 from approximately 6:05 am to 8:40 am. Due to the wiki reverse proxy being at 1cc, wiki.laptop.org was unavailable during this period. --HH. -- ...since wars begin in the minds of men, it is in the minds of men that the defenses

Re: Soliciting OFW testers

2008-12-12 Thread Chris Marshall
Mitch Bradley wrote: Secondly, if you have a USB CD-ROM drive, you could help me by testing it with OFW. To do so: Will an external DVD-RW drive work or only a CD? a) Remove all other USB storage devices (FLASH keys and the like) from the XO b) Put a CD-ROM that has an ISO-9660

Re: 2588 - Journal unusable

2008-12-12 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, This is a great thread! Very respectful but on point and addressing a core concern which needs to become a core competency. Mikus, James, Gary and the other lead developers who pull down joyride regularly are critical to the success of the next release. They proved it in the last

Re: Collaboration using qemu emulation

2008-12-12 Thread Carol Farlow Lerche
Or run the school server on a spare machine or virtual machine. It has an ejabberd server as part of its yummy goodness. Btw without offering offense to Qemu, vmware server is free as in beer on Windows, and its networking is very easy to configure On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 3:16 AM, Bert

Re: Multivnc for XOs(children) and Ubuntu box (teacher)

2008-12-12 Thread Ton van Overbeek
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 1:28 PM, Arjun Sarwal ar...@laptop.org wrote: (Somewhat in continuation with the x11vnc and vncviewer discussion thread started here http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-November/021281.html ) Has anybody tried/gotten multivnc to work ? I started the

Joyride SD card corruption

2008-12-12 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
WARNING -- since about build 2590 I can get my permanent SD card (ext2 filesystem) completely corrupted - I've had to restore it twice. [This is a regression - with 2583 and earlier I never saw any SD corruption. Note that my systems have multiple USB devices.] I am unaware of the cause.

Re: Soliciting OFW testers

2008-12-12 Thread Mitch Bradley
Chris Marshall wrote: Mitch Bradley wrote: Secondly, if you have a USB CD-ROM drive, you could help me by testing it with OFW. To do so: Will an external DVD-RW drive work or only a CD? I'd like to find that out too. ___ Devel mailing list

Re: [Testing] Soliciting OFW testers

2008-12-12 Thread Michail Bletsas
testing-boun...@lists.laptop.org wrote on 12/12/2008 12:03:44 PM: Chris Marshall wrote: Mitch Bradley wrote: Secondly, if you have a USB CD-ROM drive, you could help me by testing it with OFW. To do so: Will an external DVD-RW drive work or only a CD? I'd like to find that

Re: 8.2.1 Bug review meeting - 1 PM EST Friday 12/12/08

2008-12-12 Thread Ed McNierney
Folks - I was in a hurry to get this out yesterday and I just realized that it might be wiser to use the #olpc-meeting channel so we don¹t intrude too much if other folks are trying to talk. So let¹s please move our meeting to 1 PM Eastern time (30 minutes from now) in #olpc-meeting instead.

Re: 2588 - Journal unusable

2008-12-12 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 03:27:21PM +1100, James Cameron wrote: G'day Chris, I'll give a partial line of reasoning response ... this is not complete, I'm short of time. Where I said public, I meant developer builds that can be used by other developers. I didn't mean to imply public builds for

Re: [Testing] Soliciting OFW testers

2008-12-12 Thread Mitch Bradley
Michail Bletsas wrote: Yes, external DVD-RW and DVD drives work with DVD and DVD-R media. Any chance of building a DVD-decoder into OFW? ;-) Hmm, I probably have one of those lying around somewhere ... Oh, here's one in my toolbox, next to the rusty fishhooks, the X-Ray glasses, and the

Re: [Server-devel] Amateurish Workaround to Get Bonding to Work With eth1

2008-12-12 Thread Reuben K. Caron
Jerry Vonau wrote: Reuben K. Caron wrote: Martin Langhoff wrote: On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 7:06 PM, Reuben K. Caron reu...@laptop.org wrote: yum repolist --enablerepo=* repolist: 0 ... This is on an upgrade from 0.4

Re: [Server-devel] Amateurish Workaround to Get Bonding to Work With eth1

2008-12-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 6:10 PM, Reuben K. Caron reu...@laptop.org wrote: Yes, there is a yum.conf.rpmnew present (attached) No, it has never been touched. I've tested this today, and what you're finding is right - the upgrade leaves the old yum.conf -- now, I saw this problem early and added a

Re: [Server-devel] Amateurish Workaround to Get Bonding to Work With eth1

2008-12-12 Thread Reuben K. Caron
Yes it matches: [r...@schoolserver ~]# sha1sum /etc/yum.conf 8970c4d97f3f90eb17520ea3d8590b24bc7f4691 /etc/yum.conf Martin Langhoff wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 6:10 PM, Reuben K. Caron reu...@laptop.org wrote: Yes, there is a yum.conf.rpmnew present (attached) No, it has never been

Re: Minutes of Power in 9.1.0 meeting

2008-12-12 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Chris, Joe, Paul and Richard, How are we doing on closing these action items? * Chris to make some additions to requirement linking in the existing documentation, including what happens when the lid is closed. * Mitch and Deepak to figure out who works on requirement 12. * Joe to

Re: Free Software Foundation Files Suit Against Cisco For GPL Violations

2008-12-12 Thread Walter Bender
Are there any places where Sugar is in violation of its licenses? -walter On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:14 PM, John Gilmore g...@toad.com wrote: OLPC is at risk of similar action unless it gets its act together. The project and its customers have skated by on GPL compliance, figuring that we're

Re: Free Software Foundation Files Suit Against Cisco For GPL Violations

2008-12-12 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:14 AM, John Gilmore g...@toad.com wrote: OLPC is at risk of similar action unless it gets its act together. The project and its customers have skated by on GPL compliance, figuring that we're the good guys, and make halfhearted attempts every once in a while, so we

Re: Free Software Foundation Files Suit Against Cisco For GPL Violations

2008-12-12 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:52:54AM -0800, Edward Cherlin wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:14 AM, John Gilmore g...@toad.com wrote: OLPC is at risk of similar action unless it gets its act together. The project and its customers have skated by on GPL compliance, figuring that we're the good

Re: Free Software Foundation Files Suit Against Cisco For GPL Violations

2008-12-12 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Michael Stone mich...@laptop.org wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:52:54AM -0800, Edward Cherlin wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:14 AM, John Gilmore g...@toad.com wrote: OLPC is at risk of similar action unless it gets its act together. The project and its

Re: Free Software Foundation Files Suit Against Cisco For GPL Violations

2008-12-12 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:34:18PM -0800, Edward Cherlin wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Michael Stone mich...@laptop.org wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:52:54AM -0800, Edward Cherlin wrote: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/4268 That's a lost cursor bug. I assume you meant some other

Re: Wine activity

2008-12-12 Thread Samuel Klein
A popular program that has been requested a few times via Wine is Let's Go for english learning. This activity definitely needs its own section on wiki.laptop.org/go/Wine ... SJ On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Ben Wiley Sittler bsitt...@gmail.com wrote: That's awesome work! I was able to

Re: [Server-devel] CCCS HP Access Points

2008-12-12 Thread Josh Totoro
Hello everyone I am the one of the IT guys in the Chester Community Charter School in Chester PA, we just had 1400 XO's donated to our school!!! We are currently trying to figure out the best wireless solution, and XS server setup that we should use. The laptops will be spread across 4

Re: Free Software Foundation Files Suit Against Cisco For GPL Violations

2008-12-12 Thread Hal Murray
From http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/4265 (To be effective when shipping hundreds of thousands of units to non-English speakers, a translation of the license should be provided as well.) Does FSF have approved translations of their licenses? That sounds like something lawyers could get very

Re: [Grassroots-l] SugarLabs Sur - Libre Social Network Project

2008-12-12 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:52 AM, Sebastian Silva sebast...@fuentelibre.org wrote: Friends of our community, I'd like to introduce you to a project that Rafael, me, Alejandro (proj.man.) , Antonio (django wiz), Alfredo (theather educ) and Jose (mathematics professor at the UNMSM) have been

Re: Free Software Foundation Files Suit Against Cisco For GPL Violations

2008-12-12 Thread John Gilmore
Walter asked: Are there any places where Sugar is in violation of its licenses? Sugar is licensed under the GPLv2, and its source code seems to be provided. (Because it's written in an interpreted language, it never ships binaries -- I think. There may be some small parts that are written in C

Re: Free Software Foundation Files Suit Against Cisco For GPL Violations

2008-12-12 Thread John Gilmore
Some of us are new to one or another part of this issue, and need a bit more background. o Can you list the offending binaries and explain their faults? Sure. For example, ls is part of the Coreutils. In 8.2.0, it's licensed under GPLv3+ (try ls --version); in earlier releases, it's

Re: Free Software Foundation Files Suit Against Cisco For GPL Violations

2008-12-12 Thread david
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008, John Gilmore wrote: anything -- without permission from the manufacturer. The OLPC comes with DRM, like the TiVo, the iPhone, and the Google G1 phone. While I for the record I believe that the google G1 phone is open, the various other android based phones are locked

Re: Free Software Foundation Files Suit Against Cisco For GPL Violations

2008-12-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 10:53 PM, John Gilmore g...@toad.com wrote: The last suggestion I heard from OLPC along these lines was that the We had a _private_ conversation in which I carefully said that I was _not_ speaking for OLPC, and had no say or authority over laptop stuff. I look after the

Re: Minutes of Power in 9.1.0 meeting

2008-12-12 Thread Richard A. Smith
Greg Smith wrote: * Richard to determine how to address the no regressions requirement and how to measure the success of the feature in terms of Amps used. I've been working on such tests off and on since October when the report of 8.2 regressions first popped up. And while I've learned

Re: New joyride build 2592

2008-12-12 Thread James Cameron
Brief two hour test results. Scenario: two XO MP with 767 and activities installed. - olpc-update joyride-2592, successful, - reboot, successful, reflashed firmware, - reboot, successful, Sugar UI appears, offer to update activities, declined, - suspend and resume using power button short

a build reproducibility test

2008-12-12 Thread James Cameron
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:40:37PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 03:27:21PM +1100, James Cameron wrote: Why can't the build system be replicated so that each developer can test their change before releasing it? What is it about the build system that prevents it? I

Re: Free Software Foundation Files Suit Against Cisco For GPL Violations

2008-12-12 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 4:53 PM, John Gilmore g...@toad.com wrote: Some of us are new to one or another part of this issue, and need a bit more background. o Can you list the offending binaries and explain their faults? Sure. For example, ls is part of the Coreutils. In 8.2.0, it's

[Server-devel] xs on cd

2008-12-12 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, At OLENepal, we are using a USB stick to install XS on the servers. We have created a 'boot cd' which installs XS from the USB stick when the server is unable to boot from CD. This saves have to reburn CD's. We are using XS-0.4 as the base for the server configuration (NEXS). This is