in any case, so far i've heard no good argument against rotating
the touchscreen to match the screen. it may not be the most
convenient way to use or hold the laptop, but it would be better than
the current situation where screen rotation makes the touchpad
almost completely useless.
Jordan, thanks for the info.
I only started to use the XV overlay because I had this little hope that
somehow I could get a pointer to a hardware buffer to avoid blitting the
data but as I see it now the LX driver simply copies the overlay data to
the hardware buffer so I could just use simple
Interesting. Thanks.
I'm currently using build-34. I think I've tried 800, 801, and a few other
build-3? without noticing any differences. (But I didn't look as carefully
with the others.) I'm not sure how they relate to Sugar 8.2.0 or 8.2.1.
I'm seeing a different pattern, perhaps because
On Thursday 26 February 2009 05:09:27 pm James Cameron wrote:
Something is wrong with my olpc in either the xserver or hardware. For
other non-drawing tasks its speed seems to be reasonable.
Yes, something is wrong. Have you another XO you can test?
Now I narrowed down my X related
p...@laptop.org wrote:
but like david, i think
that currently neither olpc nor sugarlabs is going to foster or
champion their use: olpc has no resources for s/w development,
and as far as i can tell, sugarlabs is targeting other h/w
platforms just as strongly as the XO -- and other
Sorry, I wanted to post it toplevel.
p...@laptop.org wrote:
but like david, i think
that currently neither olpc nor sugarlabs is going to foster or
champion their use: olpc has no resources for s/w development,
and as far as i can tell, sugarlabs is targeting other h/w
platforms just
On 02.03.2009, at 11:04, NoiseEHC wrote:
Currently I am writing a nice activity which teaches kids what to do
when alien spaceships attacks Earth and it will take some time to
finish.
That's great! But make sure the game prepares them adequately:
On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 02:01:41AM -0800, Derek Zhou wrote:
Now I narrowed down my X related slowdown to one culprit, and I still cannot
believe it:
It's not different versions of debxo or hardware or nand vs usb or jffs2 vs
ext3,
It is the window manager I am using: windowMaker.
I've been
To me, Bitfrost was just one more lofty windmill OLPC tried to tilt because
it seemed like an interesting challenge. I'm not clear why Sugar needs more
protection from rogue activities than a normal desktop environment has from
rogue applications.
Reinventing the desktop as a constructivist
2009/3/2 NoiseEHC noise...@freemail.hu:
Witch the recent disbanding of the development team I simply cannot see
what will happen to the XO development. I mean that 8.2.1 will be
released and 9.1.0 is dropped but what I do not understand is what will
happen with all the development for 9.1.0?
noiseehc wrote:
Sorry, I wanted to post it toplevel.
p...@laptop.org wrote:
but like david, i think
that currently neither olpc nor sugarlabs is going to foster or
champion their use: olpc has no resources for s/w development,
and as far as i can tell, sugarlabs is
noiseehc wrote:
The question remains whether we make it rotate to match the closed ebook
mode or match the rotated opened-like-a-book mode.
there's no good answer to this, because there's no way to make it
do the right thing automatically. the lid switch can't be
used, because by definition
I have experienced the frustration of trying to use the mouse pad when
in ebook mode (actually not quite ebook mode, since you have to open the
XO a bit to get your finger on the mousepad). The reason I need to do
it is that when I'm using View Slides the enormous mouse arrow blocks
part of
I have two PCs running Fedora 10 and the Sugar RPMs that come with
that. One of the computers runs GNOME and the other uses Window Maker.
I run sugar-emulate on both. One copy of Sugar uses the name jim and
the other uses jsimmons. Both use the schoolserver.media.mit.edu
jabber server.
James Simmons wrote:
I have two PCs running Fedora 10 and the Sugar RPMs that come with
that. One of the computers runs GNOME and the other uses Window Maker.
I run sugar-emulate on both. One copy of Sugar uses the name jim and
the other uses jsimmons. Both use the
james wrote:
I have experienced the frustration of trying to use the mouse pad when
in ebook mode (actually not quite ebook mode, since you have to open the
XO a bit to get your finger on the mousepad). The reason I need to do
it is that when I'm using View Slides the enormous mouse
What would you do if you ran Ubuntu on your main computer but some of
the buttons on your keyboard were not working correctly? You would
file a bug with Ubuntu, who would hopefully either fix the problem on
their own back, or help you to report the issue to the developers of
the related
Just to defend my honor I think I can say that those who think running
Paint is intuitively obvious have not tried Paint on 800.
Its 6 color choosers that work in groups of 2 make it somewhat more
complex than Paint used to be. Not the least of the mysteries is just
how the groups of 2 interact
On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Mikus Grinbergs wrote:
What would you do if you ran Ubuntu on your main computer but some of
the buttons on your keyboard were not working correctly? You would
file a bug with Ubuntu, who would hopefully either fix the problem on
their own back, or help you to report the
Benjamin,
There is another difference I thought of. The machine that seems to be
working OK is running in a Xepher window. I'm using a wide screen flat
monitor running at 1440 x 900.
The machine that doesn't seem to be working runs at 1024 x 768 and Sugar
takes up the entire screen. When
p...@laptop.org wrote:
noiseehc wrote:
The question remains whether we make it rotate to match the closed ebook
mode or match the rotated opened-like-a-book mode.
there's no good answer to this, because there's no way to make it
do the right thing automatically. the lid switch can't be
On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, p...@laptop.org wrote:
noiseehc wrote:
The question remains whether we make it rotate to match the closed ebook
mode or match the rotated opened-like-a-book mode.
there's no good answer to this, because there's no way to make it
do the right thing automatically. the
Hmm, there is now a standard (and simple!) Sugar color chooser that
all activities should be using if they don't have specific reason to
do otherwise. (Write now uses it, I know.) It would be good to use it
in Paint as well.
- Eben
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Aaron Konstam
Daniel Drake wrote:
It is unlikely that you (as a user, rather than a deployment)
reporting bugs to OLPC will result in another software release *direct
from OLPC* (such as 8.2.2), because development of 8.2.x is mostly
discontinued and will really only be driven by deployments.
Have you
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Martin Langhoff
martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote:
dev02 is at 291 M while dev01 is at 547 M. Is it all there? Do you
have checksums?
dev02 is there now. And also at
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 12:39 PM, NoiseEHC noise...@freemail.hu wrote:
Daniel Drake wrote:
It is unlikely that you (as a user, rather than a deployment)
reporting bugs to OLPC will result in another software release *direct
from OLPC* (such as 8.2.2), because development of 8.2.x is mostly
2009/3/2 p...@laptop.org:
assuming we can do that (and i'm confident we can), the next step
is to take a set of fedora rpms, mostly generic, some
XO-specific, and create a distribution. what's opaque to me,
currently, is:
- who will do this
- how often
- what set of packages will
Hi Chris,
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote:
I've been working on trying to quantify the difference in WPA behavior
between 8.2.0 and 8.2.1.
(...)
Failures leave the string Activation (eth0/wireless): disconnected
during association, asking for new key in
I don't know what your simple program does, but it sounds like it
could be a Sugar bug. You should file a ticket at dev.sugarlabs.org.
If it is not related to Sugar, we'll try to pass the report along to
the proper place.
http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/465
It does sound like NM. Look at
p...@laptop.org wrote:
Cannot comment on the first part, I have no idea how this linux distro
development thing goes...
this is a much simpler question: there's a lot of work going on
in sugarland to help activity writers. since activities are released
independently, the distribution
On 2 Mar 2009, at 16:35, James Simmons wrote:
Benjamin,
There is another difference I thought of. The machine that seems to
be working OK is running in a Xepher window. I'm using a wide
screen flat monitor running at 1440 x 900.
The machine that doesn't seem to be working runs at
Agreed. However, I believe you can claim reliable WPA2 support, as
the WPA2 handshake doesn't have this timing vulnerability.
Have not tested extensively, but my experience was that WPA2 was very
reliable.
Yes, my experience is also that WPA2 is more reliable. However, don't
forget that
2009/3/2 NoiseEHC noise...@freemail.hu:
My main problem is that knowing who is more responsible requires knowing
linux more that I am comfortable with (I am a Windows developer). Here are
just 3 examples to show my point:
1. Today I noticed that my simple program can crash the whole sugar
Hi Peter,
On my XO that's currently running 8.2.0 on the nand I can reliably
connect to my home AP which is explicitly configured for WAP (due
to issues with dodgy wifi drivers on my eeepc not working with it
when WPA2 is enabled) but can't connect to the Cisco AP in the
2009/3/2 Javier Cardona jav...@cozybit.com:
I would suggest to compare the two versions with different AP models.
For instance, with the D-Link WBR-2310 you will see a huge improvement
when using 8.2.1.
Have you tested this using an actual present-day OS 8.2.1 build, or
just using your custom
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote:
2009/3/2 Javier Cardona jav...@cozybit.com:
I would suggest to compare the two versions with different AP models.
For instance, with the D-Link WBR-2310 you will see a huge improvement
when using 8.2.1.
Have you tested this
On Mon, 2009-03-02 at 09:59 -0800, Sameer Verma wrote:
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Martin Langhoff
martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote:
dev02 is at 291 M while dev01 is at 547 M. Is it all there? Do you
have checksums?
On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 02:08:38PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
The changes to sugar might be minimal but the changes to the
underlying OS are not so simple.
From my (which is very basic) understanding there is patches to at
least the kernel, initscripts, upstart and telepathy and possibly dbus
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote:
checksum?
de68fde2e1671d7bbcfb73da0efb6f8367d5a597 OLPCXS-0.5.2-dev02-i386.iso
sorry - should have sent this earlier.
Also - Jerry's right, there's an embedded checksum that's easy to verify too.
cheers,
m
--
Hi All...
One more question before the CUE Conference this week. I had bought a Sugar
Live CD from xoexplosion, but before I had a chance to try it on my MacBook,
someone at SCaLE took it! Now I need to know...
Would it have worked if I had just booted my MacBook from it? How would I have
Mentoring organization applications for GSoC are due Mar 9-13, so Sugarlabs
have got to get our $#!* together. We need more than 4
mentorshttp://sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code/Mentors,
a better list of project
ideashttp://sugarlabs.org/go/DevelopmentTeam/ProjectIdeas,
ideas for how to bring
Jordan, thanks for the info.
I only started to use the XV overlay because I had this little hope that
somehow I could get a pointer to a hardware buffer to avoid blitting the
data but as I see it now the LX driver simply copies the overlay data to
the hardware buffer so I could just use
Yes, my experience is also that WPA2 is more reliable. However, don't
forget that 8.2.1 introduces another regression which I can reproduce
every time where the WPA2 (and WPA) connection is not automatically
reestablished on reboot - association and WPA2 handshake succeeds, but
the system
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