OFW Q3A15

2009-10-30 Thread Mitch Bradley
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q3a15 Lots of good stuff. Please help me test it! My trac tickets are at http://dev.laptop.org/report/41 . If you click on the Action Needed column, the test in release tickets will collate together. Those tickets are ostensibly fixed in q3a15. It

Re: Sharing files among several XO

2009-10-30 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 29.10.2009, at 16:23, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: 2009/10/29 Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de: On 29.10.2009, at 02:47, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: Under Etoys, If I keep down the mouse button and choose Save under another name (I am not sure about the exact message), and save the

Re: Sharing files among several XO

2009-10-30 Thread Eben Eliason
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 29.10.2009, at 16:23, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: 2009/10/29 Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de: On 29.10.2009, at 02:47, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: Under Etoys, If I keep down the mouse button and choose Save

RE: XO 1.5 hang on Type your name screen

2009-10-30 Thread LASKE, Lionel (C2S)
Oops, sorry. Post to the wrong devel list :-( Lionel. De : LASKE, Lionel (C2S) Envoyé : vendredi 30 octobre 2009 15:05 À : 'sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org' Objet : XO 1.5 hang on Type your name screen Hi all, I've just upgraded our XO 1.5 to q13a13 firmware and to os34. By

Re: XO 1.5 hang on Type your name screen

2009-10-30 Thread Ed McNierney
Lionel - Step 1 is to take Mitch's advice of earlier today and upgrade to q3a15: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q3a15 - Ed On Oct 30, 2009, at 10:06 AM, LASKE, Lionel (C2S) wrote: Oops, sorry. Post to the wrong devel list :-( Lionel. De : LASKE, Lionel

Beam Me Up Scotty, file sharing activity idear

2009-10-30 Thread DancesWithCars
So I'm reminded of my first handheld computer, and beaming between friends, my contact information, like a business card, and sharing applications/ activities by beaming them to someone in the proximity by IR. So fast forward to the WiFi age, and several friends within a classroom or after school

OOM conditions

2009-10-30 Thread Richard A. Smith
In a LWN discussion thread on how google uses the kernel I found the following: == 2) Mike asked why the kernel tries so hard to allocate memory - why not just fail to allocate if there is too much pressure. Why isn't disabling overcommit enough? Posted Oct 24, 2009 1:26 UTC

Re: XO 1.5 hang on Type your name screen

2009-10-30 Thread Richard A. Smith
Step 1 is to take Mitch's advice of earlier today and upgrade to q3a15: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q3a15 - First: the system “hang” (no response from mouse and keyboard) when displaying the “Type your name” screen. - Second: I can’t stop the booting

NOW: Contributors Program Mtg! (Fri 2PM Boston time, #olpc-meeting)

2009-10-30 Thread Holt
Please join us NOW reviewing the latest OLPC/Sugar community projects over IRC Live Chat: (2PM EDT Boston Time Today/Friday) http://forum.laptop.org/chat Then type at bottom: /join #olpc-meeting AGENDA: * New projects libraries -- teaching them Community Outreach:

open 80211s on XO 1.5

2009-10-30 Thread Sameer Verma
On a whim, I posted to the open 80211s list to see if the wireless card on the XO1.5B2 will support open 80211s. Here's the thread. http://open80211s.com/pipermail/devel/2009-October/000368.html I must admit that my understanding of open 80211s is fairly limited, but I was hoping that the wireless

Re: open 80211s on XO 1.5

2009-10-30 Thread Hilton Garcia Fernandes
Hi, Sameer ! Are you sure open802.11s can be made to support to the Marvell chipsets ? In any case, open802.11s implementation is certainly incompatible with the standard OLPC 802.11s driver, since they implemented different versions of the draft. It is interesting to read that Mesh

Re: open 80211s on XO 1.5

2009-10-30 Thread Sameer Verma
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Ed McNierney e...@laptop.org wrote: On Oct 30, 2009, at 2:21 PM, Sameer Verma wrote: to allow for meshing a la XO1 Sameer - Are you in fact using 802.11s mesh networking on XO-1 machines?  Or are you rather using ad-hoc networking and collaboration

Re: open 80211s on XO 1.5

2009-10-30 Thread Ed McNierney
On Oct 30, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Sameer Verma wrote: scenarios of a handful of XOs in the under-a-tree model Sameer - Under a tree, using mesh networking is pointless (unless, I suppose, it is an extraordinarily large tree). Mesh networking allows packet forwarding from node A to node B,

RE: XO 1.5 hang on Type your name screen

2009-10-30 Thread LASKE, Lionel (C2S)
Thanks Ed but I can't upgrade to q3a15 due to the keyboard issue :-( Lionel. De : Ed McNierney [mailto:edmcnier...@gmail.com] De la part de Ed McNierney Envoyé : vendredi 30 octobre 2009 15:12 À : LASKE, Lionel (C2S) Cc : OLPC Devel Objet : Re: XO 1.5 hang on Type your name

Re: open 80211s on XO 1.5

2009-10-30 Thread DancesWithCars
I'd said to lots of people that the XO uses 802.11s mesh networking and eventually ran into someone rather geekie and otherwise impressively knowledgeable who corrected me that they didn't implement the whole standard (and people here say draft). The Marvel driver is said to be closed source, and

Re: XO 1.5 hang on Type your name screen

2009-10-30 Thread Ed McNierney
That's not correct. Many of us have run into this problem and done the upgrade. As Richard pointed out, removing all power (disconnect the AC adapter, remove the battery, count to 10, then reassemble) will reset the EC and fix the problem. Power on the machine and press Esc immediately

Re: open 80211s on XO 1.5

2009-10-30 Thread Ed McNierney
I can't quite understand the desire for definitive info combined with your disappointment that you don't have 1.5 rumors. I don't think we need rumors, and I and many other folks have been providing definitive info about 1.5 for some time. And about the mesh, etc. You don't say what

Re: open 80211s on XO 1.5

2009-10-30 Thread DancesWithCars
Thank you. And yes I'm conflicted. Your summary and experience give a good overview and I'll point people to the wiki.laptop.org if they need more info. Re: the XO 1.5 mesh implementation, compatibility with other XO 1.0 and an open source driver would be nice. Not that I plan on hacking it, as

Re: OOM conditions

2009-10-30 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 16:58, Richard A. Smith rich...@laptop.org wrote: In a LWN discussion thread on how google uses the kernel I found the following: == 2) Mike asked why the kernel tries so hard to allocate memory - why not just fail to allocate if there is too much

Re: Sharing files among several XO

2009-10-30 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 30.10.2009, at 09:27, Eben Eliason wrote: On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 29.10.2009, at 16:23, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: 2009/10/29 Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de: On 29.10.2009, at 02:47, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: Under Etoys,

Re: wlan interface (was: first play with new XO 1.5 machines)

2009-10-30 Thread John Gilmore
I mean the clock in the 802.11 MAC sublayer. This defines the basis of the timing synchronization function (TSF) which is a core part of 802.11. Without synchronized clocks, nodes cannot communicate. I talked with one of the 802.11 experts I know. He's quite sure that there should be no

OFW upgrade without a keyboard

2009-10-30 Thread Mitch Bradley
Remove all power and wait is by far the easiest way to reset a keyboard, but ... If one really could not get the keyboard to work, but wanted to upgrade the firmware anyway, here is a recipe: a) Get a USB stick, ideally factory-formatted with a FAT filesystem, but ext2 will work too. b) Put

Re: wlan interface (was: first play with new XO 1.5 machines)

2009-10-30 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 8:45 PM, John Gilmore g...@toad.com wrote: I talked with one of the 802.11 experts I know. He's quite sure that there should be no problem on Atheros hardware at least. He has no problem transmitting arbitrary packets at arbitrary times and no problem receiving packets

Re: OOM conditions

2009-10-30 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Richard A. Smith wrote: Working the table at the Boston book festival I was reminded how painful the OOM stuff is on a gen 1. The OOM problem on Gen 1 is a True Kernel Bug. The problem is that the OOM killer just isn't working. Almost all the