automatic backlight control

2011-11-21 Thread Paul Fox
this note is kind of long for what seems like a simple feature, but there are some complications i'd like feedback on. i've implemented one of the more amusing features of the 1.75 laptop, which is using its ability to monitor ambient light levels in order to turn off the backlight automatically

Re: [Sugar-devel] automatic backlight control

2011-11-21 Thread Walter Bender
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 9:22 AM, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org wrote: this note is kind of long for what seems like a simple feature, but there are some complications i'd like feedback on. i've implemented one of the more amusing features of the 1.75 laptop, which is using its ability to monitor

Re: [Sugar-devel] automatic backlight control

2011-11-21 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 21.11.2011, at 15:29, Walter Bender wrote: Paul, Unless the display design is different than it was in 2007, then there is no way to decouple turning off the backlight and going into monochrome. Also, turning on the backlight adds color back (although the amount of color vs monochrome

Re: [Sugar-devel] automatic backlight control

2011-11-21 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 21.11.2011, at 15:48, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 21.11.2011, at 15:29, Walter Bender wrote: Paul, Unless the display design is different than it was in 2007, then there is no way to decouple turning off the backlight and going into monochrome. Also, turning on the backlight adds

Re: [Sugar-devel] automatic backlight control

2011-11-21 Thread Kevin Gordon
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 9:22 AM, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org wrote: this note is kind of long for what seems like a simple feature, but there are some complications i'd like feedback on. i've implemented one of the more amusing features of the 1.75 laptop, which is using its ability to monitor

Re: [Sugar-devel] automatic backlight control

2011-11-21 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 21.11.2011, at 15:22, Paul Fox wrote: it quickly became clear (to me, at least) that it would be confusing if user-dimming behaved differently than auto-backlight-control, with respect to monochrome mode. whether or not it's confusing to the user, it's definitely confusing to the code,

Re: automatic backlight control

2011-11-21 Thread DJ Delorie
Can the keyboard backlight control have an extra step at the end, going trom bright to dim to off/color to off/mono ? Then the auto-backlight would be allowed to bring it down to off/color, and the user could go the extra step to off/mono. (assuming, based on my scant knowledge of the

Re: [Sugar-devel] automatic backlight control

2011-11-21 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Just to reinforce a few points which maybe might not be clear to people who haven't played with the new hardware: 1) the switch point is set that *you cannot tell when we turn the backlight off*. Ie, the threshold is so high that by the time we turn it off, you couldn't never have told whether

Re: [Sugar-devel] automatic backlight control

2011-11-21 Thread Paul Fox
walter wrote: Paul, Unless the display design is different than it was in 2007, then there is no way to decouple turning off the backlight and going into monochrome. Also, turning on the backlight adds color back (although the amount of color vs monochrome in the mix is a function

Re: [Sugar-devel] automatic backlight control

2011-11-21 Thread Paul Fox
kevin wrote: Not sure if I have gleaned all of what is desired here, but I will share my experience. I have a Samsung N130, a Lenovo S10-2, and an Adam Notion Ink all with Pixel Qi screens. Turning the backlight off and automatically being in monochrome is a desired feature and

Re: [Sugar-devel] automatic backlight control

2011-11-21 Thread Paul Fox
bert wrote: On 21.11.2011, at 15:22, Paul Fox wrote: it quickly became clear (to me, at least) that it would be confusing if user-dimming behaved differently than auto-backlight-control, with respect to monochrome mode. whether or not it's confusing to the user, it's definitely

Re: automatic backlight control

2011-11-21 Thread Paul Fox
[ resending to cc: the lists ] dj wrote: Can the keyboard backlight control have an extra step at the end, going trom bright to dim to off/color to off/mono ? Then the auto-backlight would be allowed to bring it down to off/color, and the user could go the extra step to off/mono.

Re: [Sugar-devel] automatic backlight control

2011-11-21 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 21.11.2011, at 18:06, Paul Fox wrote: bert wrote: On 21.11.2011, at 15:22, Paul Fox wrote: it quickly became clear (to me, at least) that it would be confusing if user-dimming behaved differently than auto-backlight-control, with respect to monochrome mode. whether or not it's

Re: Re: automatic backlight control [Devel Digest, Vol 69, Issue 47]

2011-11-21 Thread Yioryos Asprobounitis
What would be the energy waste if auto-dimming was going to 1 instead of 0? This could keep the current setting, user experience and the advantages of monochrome mode. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

VPN Client.conf File

2011-11-21 Thread HALL,Brian C
Good Morning All, In installing openvpn I didn’t see a client.conf file. I want my XS to connect to a vpn server. In essence the XS will be the vpn client. I have my vpn keys and in trying to create the client.conf file I received some errors. The issue is that when I created my

Re: [OLPC-AU] VPN Client.conf File

2011-11-21 Thread Jerry Vonau
Hi Brian: First thing is you have a typo in the .conf file correct the proto line, is should be udp. For further setup information have a look at: http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/howto.html#config Jerry On 21 November 2011 08:20, HALL,Brian C

automatic backlight control

2011-11-21 Thread forster
The shift from colour to monochrome is noticable and would be annoying if it happened a lot, for example as clouds pass, trees and people move. If the hysterisis, the difference between cutin and cutout brightness is large, the change in mode will happen a lot less frequently and not be

Re: [Sugar-devel] automatic backlight control

2011-11-21 Thread Paul Fox
bert wrote: On 21.11.2011, at 18:06, Paul Fox wrote: bert wrote: When you add the auto-turnoff, it should only toggle the backlight, not the mono-color setting. I don't think that would be too confusing, from a user's POV it just means when it's bright outside, the backlight's

Re: [Sugar-devel] automatic backlight control

2011-11-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 9:22 AM, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org wrote: i've already had some guarded negative feedback on both of these new behaviors, so i'm looking for more of that, as well as positive feedback to balance it out.  :-) Hi folks -- I was one of the early commenters on this. And Paul

Re: automatic backlight control

2011-11-21 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, On Mon, Nov 21 2011, Martin Langhoff wrote: Hi folks -- I was one of the early commenters on this. And Paul gave me a, ahem, strong recommendation. All caps. Neon lights, blinking: TRY IT OUT ON AN XO-1.75 And when *pgf* types in all caps, you *know* it's serious. -- Chris Ball

Re: automatic backlight control

2011-11-21 Thread Paul Fox
fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: The shift from colour to monochrome is noticable and would be annoying if it happened a lot, for example as clouds pass, trees and people move. If the hysterisis, the difference between cutin and cutout brightness is large, the change in mode will

Re: automatic backlight control

2011-11-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: And when *pgf* types in all caps, you *know* it's serious. :-) -- actually, he didn't go that far. But I lack his subtlety so I went for it guns ablazing. m --  martin.langh...@gmail.com  mar...@laptop.org -- Software

Re: [Sugar-devel] automatic backlight control

2011-11-21 Thread Paul Fox
i wrote: please try os12, when available, and see how it feels. i'm afraid the necessary firmware didn't make the deadline for os12, so you'll need to either wait for os13, or q4c05 firmware, whichever comes first. paul =- paul fox, p...@laptop.org

Announcing Q4C05

2011-11-21 Thread James Cameron
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q4c05 This is a maintenance release for the C1 build, focusing on support for Linux suspend/resume testing, but also including: - new EC firmware which shortens the duration of the LED blinks for the light sensor, - fixes for save-mfg-data and

11.3.1 build 12 released for XO-1.75

2011-11-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
The Saturday night fever build, where audio seems to work at last, clocks make sense again, and we have some power mgmt improvements. Download from:   http://build.laptop.org/11.3.1/os12/ Bugs fixed: #11353 SD Card cannot detected in OS881 #11436 XO-1.75 runin battery discharge

[Server-devel] VPN Client.conf File

2011-11-21 Thread HALL,Brian C
Good Morning All, In installing openvpn I didn’t see a client.conf file. I want my XS to connect to a vpn server. In essence the XS will be the vpn client. I have my vpn keys and in trying to create the client.conf file I received some errors. The issue is that when I created my