German Press

2007-06-08 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Hi everyone, particularly those in Germany: I gave a talk in Potsdam yesterday which resulted in surprisingly large press coverage for OLPC. Which is good, comments were positive in general. Unfortunately, not every journalist gets their quotes exactly right - in a least one publication

Re: Build 472 - testing

2007-06-30 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Yes, please :) If I'm not mistaken that would mean the laptops build a mesh automatically so we could finally test our shiny new IPv6 bits, right? - Bert - On Jun 30, 2007, at 14:10 , Kim Quirk wrote: It looks like we may need/want to get the latest Marvell firmware and all known flag

Re: Audio sample bank on the XO.

2007-07-15 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Jul 15, 2007, at 14:40 , Jean Piché wrote: Hello all, After trial-2 madness has passed, we have to make a serious audio decision: we really need a system-wide audio sample library. I suspect many activities that use sounds (including our own) will be blocked if a decision is not made.

Re: [sugar] Audio sample bank on the XO.

2007-07-15 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Jul 15, 2007, at 14:40 , Jean Piché wrote: A good sample set is not trivial to put together. The problem of licencing is also specially thorny in our case. Some of the public domain sounds used in TamTam may have slight restrictions and we will need to adress this before FRS. Whatever

Re: text channel

2007-07-21 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Jul 21, 2007, at 22:06 , Simon McVittie wrote: On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 at 17:18:39 +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote: Comment (by dcbw): You don't actually need Tubes here. Each activity has it's own text channel (even if it doesn't have tubes), which is what we were going to use to do

Re: [sugar] Trial-2 pushing out bugs...

2007-07-22 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Jul 22, 2007, at 8:33 , Bernardo Innocenti wrote: Jim Gettys wrote: I think these are fixed in current builds. Bernie? Let's get together Monday and verify. The righthand game keys have been assigned to KP_HOME, KP_END, KP_PREV and PK_NEXT for some time. They do not yet rotate with

Re: Could not activate this XO error

2007-07-22 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Jul 22, 2007, at 15:47 , Bert Freudenberg wrote: On Jul 22, 2007, at 14:55 , Tibi wrote: you can't update to an older version. The fact is that I have 528 on my laptop but I'm not able to enter SUGAR or tty. How do you downgrade??? Just rename your nand528 to nand529. or 999 or whatever

Re: [sugar] Trial-2 pushing out bugs...

2007-07-22 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Jul 22, 2007, at 15:45 , Bernardo Innocenti wrote: Bert Freudenberg wrote: Is there a binding for the view source key yet? On new keyboards, the key has moved to FN+space. Is any of the existing X keysyms appropriate for it? I have no idea. - Bert

Re: Could not activate this XO error

2007-07-23 Thread Bert Freudenberg
you I even translated a good part of it in Romanian, is not that. The algorithm presented there doesn't work for me... :( It must be something I can do. Tibi On 7/23/07, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The auto update boot script supports both nand1234.img and os123456.img

Re: Location of Open Firmware BIOS Source code

2007-07-27 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Jul 27, 2007, at 14:04 , Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves wrote: Out of curiosity, I'll take the opportunity to ask what advantages does OpenBIOS offer over LinuxBIOS. Google for Open Firmware. - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

Re: DEF CON's hostile network

2007-08-01 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Aug 1, 2007, at 10:31 , Albert Cahalan wrote: On 8/1/07, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless you have B2-1's, I'd recommend most developers be using current development builds, such as 541. I'm fairly sure the B2-1 is exactly what I have. Bug number? 2278 How bad? Very.

Re: Roadmap

2007-09-14 Thread Bert Freudenberg
, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, is the roadmap up to date? http://dev.laptop.org/roadmap In particular the dates in it? - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo

Re: The iGoogle bug

2007-09-18 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Sep 18, 2007, at 10:45 , Don Hopkins wrote: This is #3352: https://dev.laptop.org/ticket/3352 What's special about this page is that the clock applet uses two very wide bitmaps of 3200 pixels each to represent the clock arms in all possible positions. (that's over 2MB of RAM wasted,

Re: The iGoogle bug

2007-09-18 Thread Bert Freudenberg
. - Jim On Tue, 2007-09-18 at 11:30 +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote: Well, if the XO's calculator activity can take 20 MB RAM (+10MB shared), then 2 MB for a clock seems small. - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http

Re: The iGoogle bug

2007-09-18 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Sep 18, 2007, at 13:53 , Jim Gettys wrote: Even so, right now we'll find lots more RAM consumed that we'd like, due to how python loads modules; we have schemes for fixing this using fork and copy on write. Last time I talked to Ivan that's not going to be possible (in the

Re: #3469 HIGH Trial-3: Human readable file names in the journal

2007-09-18 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Any reason this cannot be made public? - Bert - On Sep 18, 2007, at 17:23 , John Watlington wrote: Marco, I apologize that this was discussed at a school server meeting and we didn't point you at the results. Details are at:

Re: #3655 (Specify the order of the Activity taskbar icons)

2007-09-20 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Sep 20, 2007, at 23:06 , Eben Eliason wrote: Specifically, the first 6 icons from the left should be (in order): Chat, Browse, Write, Record, Paint, TamtamJam? After that: Turtle Art, eToys, Pippy, Calculator, Measure, TamTamEdit?, SynthLab?, Memorize, Blockparty, and Connect4. -

Dialog when stopping activity

2007-09-25 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Sep 25, 2007, at 16:57 , Zarro Boogs per Child wrote: Comment(by Eben): We should use a non-modal dialog to indicate that there are incomplete downloads when stopping a Browse session. We could provide options to Pause download (assuming we have resume support), Cancel

Re: Dialog when stopping activity

2007-09-25 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Sep 25, 2007, at 17:29 , Eben Eliason wrote: Well, sort of. Generally speaking, it's OK to show confirmation dialogs when there are ongoing processes (downloads, video compression, export operations, etc.) which will be interrupted/terminated by stopping the activity. It's possible

Alt-Gr-Lock

2007-09-25 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Sep 25, 2007, at 17:56 , Zarro Boogs per Child wrote: Changes (by Eben): As far as I'm aware, alt-gr is used for translating the keys to an alternate character set. It is also possible to lock the keyboard into the alternate character set as well, for typing in another language.

Re: Console Mode, DOS Emulator on OLPC

2007-09-26 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Sep 26, 2007, at 14:07 , Jim Gettys wrote: Sugarizing the existing X based version is a small task. Small compared to writing a VGA emulator anyway. - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Bundling Commercial XO With Ecomstation

2007-09-27 Thread Bert Freudenberg
I for one would prefer if these discussions were taken to a different mailing list. OLPC-open seems fitting, unless there is a specific OLPC-Customers list. - Bert - On Sep 27, 2007, at 16:23 , big one wrote: In 1990s IBM released a Windows NT competitor called OS/2 that can run MS-DOS,

Aggregated changelogs

2007-09-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
It's a bit hard to see what changed when in the builds. I now wrote a tiny script (run by cron) to aggregate the change log entries: http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/changelogs Would be nice to have something similar in the download directory directly, but for now this solves my problem.

Re: Sugar's fonts too small even for fully-sighted people

2007-09-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Sep 28, 2007, at 9:51 , Zarro Boogs per Child wrote: Ticket URL: https://dev.laptop.org/ticket/3221#comment:6 I wonder if comparative studies have been made with the XO screen? My gut feeling is that it is more comparable to paper-based text books than CRTs. Now Colbert says gut feeling

Re: Aggregated changelogs

2007-09-29 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Sep 29, 2007, at 20:22 , Bernardo Innocenti wrote: Bert Freudenberg wrote: Would be simple to add to the script, although there always is the possibility of the script running amok. Maybe the buildmeister could send out the logs manually? But if there is interest and no objections, I

Re: New build 609

2007-09-29 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Sep 29, 2007, at 21:37 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Build 609 ChangeLog Base OS: - kernel - 2.6.22 - 638cc4e1b9be8e0 * FB: GEODE: be more aggressive in fb_blank, turning * GEODE: FB: update DC locking * OLPC: dcon: call fb_blank rather than fb_power{up,down}

Re: Sugar's fonts

2007-09-30 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Sep 30, 2007, at 16:23 , Yuan Chao wrote: On 9/30/07, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem with serifs is that they often should be smaller than a pixel for typical screen and font sizes. Well, that is Sure. But only in reflective mono mode. Anti-aliasing, which

Re: Changing Sugar system font?

2007-10-05 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Oct 5, 2007, at 20:13 , Wilhelm Fitzpatrick wrote: I've begun to experiment with OPLC images under VMware and Qemu. So far, with all the images I've tried, (546, 609, 613), the system font being used in Sugar is insanely small, to the point of near unreadability. Via googling, I was

Re: font size when running under emulation?

2007-10-05 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Oct 5, 2007, at 21:12 , David Feldman wrote: I just installed the OLPC software in VMWare and Qemu, but the font size is so small that I have trouble reading it. My understanding is that this is an emulation (screen resolution) issue and it'll be a lot larger on the actual OLPC?

Re: New manufacturing data flags for keyboards (2nd draft).

2007-10-06 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Oct 7, 2007, at 0:08 , Bernardo Innocenti wrote: Mitch Bradley wrote: One solution would be to include a lot of keymaps in OFW and select one based on the new KL tag. However, I'm not keen on having to carry around a lot of keymaps in the ROM, and extend that list from time to

Re: font size when running under emulation?

2007-10-08 Thread Bert Freudenberg
screen resolution to the standard 1200x900 or something close to it? I've tried various tweaks to xorg.conf based on some information on the wiki, but it always comes up 1024x768. Thanks again, --Dave Bert Freudenberg wrote: On Oct 5, 2007, at 21:12 , David Feldman wrote: I just

Re: keyboard symbols

2007-10-09 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Oct 9, 2007, at 8:15 , Albert Cahalan wrote: I notice that some keyboards lack the multiplication and division symbols. Providing them for all kids would be good, even if they need to move elsewhere. Why those? They are not used universally. At least German kids are taught to use ·

Re: font size when running under emulation?

2007-10-09 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Oct 9, 2007, at 16:46 , Mitchell N Charity wrote: To get 1200x900 when running under emulation, you can use Xephry as a remote X display. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Emulating_the_XO/ Help_and_tips#Run_a_Xephyr_remote_X_display http://wiki.laptop.org/go/

Re: Restarting sugar

2007-10-10 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Oct 10, 2007, at 12:17 , ankita prasad wrote: Hi, Is there a graceful of restarting sugar that does not involve killing X windows with killall X on the OLPC? Not more graceful but faster to press: but ctrl-alt-erase - Bert - ___ Devel

Re: retrieving the activity bundle directory

2007-10-11 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Yes this came in after trial-3. - Bert - On Oct 11, 2007, at 19:04 , Victor Lazzarini wrote: Not in build 602 I presume (as it does not work here). Will upgrade and test (but Dan's solution works fine). Victor At 17:13 11/10/2007, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On Oct 11, 2007, at 15:59 , Dan

Joyride package log

2007-10-16 Thread Bert Freudenberg
I made a little script to list package changes between joyride builds: http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/joyride-pkgs Enjoy! - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Joyride package log

2007-10-19 Thread Bert Freudenberg
This now shows the latest changelog entry for rpms in the joyride repo, too: http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/joyride-pkgs Unfortunately, sugar rpms do not have sensible change log entries. Enjoy anyway. - Bert - On Oct 17, 2007, at 2:31 , Bert Freudenberg wrote: It's right

Re: Monday Ship Mtg update message

2007-10-26 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Oct 25, 2007, at 16:04 , Kim Quirk wrote: For individual activities we will always want people to be able to download from a website pretty much at any time, so further development and features to activities, should continue to be planned and released outside of the olpc schedule.

Re: OLPC News 2007-10-27

2007-10-27 Thread Bert Freudenberg
14. Schedule: The upcoming releases have been renamed and re-purposed: Oct. 26: Trial-3 (Build 622) are the bits being loaded for mass production. This was completed this week. Nov. 16: Reload are bits that could possibly be loaded before shipping laptops to individuals. We will

Re: [sugar] activities i18n support files

2007-10-27 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Oct 27, 2007, at 16:10 , Xavier Alvarez wrote: People, We are in the process of setting up a localization server for the activities (hopefully in the last stages), and we need the POT files to: - exist (in a /po directory of the d.l.o git project directory) - be upto date (make sure

New joyride build 121

2007-10-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
! Build incomplete -- This email was automatically generated Aggregated logs at http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/joyride-pkgs ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

New joyride build 122

2007-10-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build122/devel_jffs2/build.log ! Build incomplete -- This email was automatically generated Aggregated logs at http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/joyride-pkgs ___ Devel mailing list

New joyride build 123

2007-10-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build123/devel_jffs2/build.log ! Build incomplete -- This email was automatically generated Aggregated logs at http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/joyride-pkgs.html ___ Devel mailing list

New joyride build 124

2007-10-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build124/devel_jffs2/ ! Build incomplete -- This email was automatically generated Aggregated logs at http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/joyride-pkgs.html ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

New joyride build 125

2007-10-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build125/devel_jffs2/ ! Build incomplete -- This email was automatically generated Aggregated logs at http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/joyride-pkgs.html ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

New joyride build 126

2007-10-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build126/devel_jffs2/ ! Build incomplete Error: Missing Dependency: avahi-autoipd = 0.6.20-1 is needed by package NetworkManager Error: Missing Dependency: avahi = 0.6.20-1 is needed by package NetworkManager -- This email was

New joyride build 127

2007-10-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build127/devel_jffs2/ ! Build incomplete -- This email was automatically generated Aggregated logs at http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/joyride-pkgs.html ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

Reporting bugs

2007-10-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Oct 28, 2007, at 17:37 , Zarro Boogs per Child wrote: Changes (by jg): * cc: sj (added) * status: new = closed * resolution: = invalid Comment: Closing due to lack of interest on the part of the reporter... Comments like this discourage reporting bugs. - Bert -

New joyride build 128

2007-10-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build128/devel_jffs2/ ! Build incomplete Error: Missing Dependency: avahi-autoipd = 0.6.20-1 is needed by package NetworkManager Error: Missing Dependency: avahi = 0.6.20-1 is needed by package NetworkManager -- This email was

New joyride build 129

2007-10-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build129/devel_jffs2/ ! Build incomplete -- This email was automatically generated Aggregated logs at http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/joyride-pkgs.html ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

New joyride build 130

2007-10-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build130/devel_jffs2/ ! Build incomplete -- This email was automatically generated Aggregated logs at http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/joyride-pkgs.html ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

New joyride build 131

2007-10-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build131/devel_jffs2/ ! Build incomplete -- This email was automatically generated Aggregated logs at http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/joyride-pkgs.html ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

Re: New joyride build 131

2007-10-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Oct 28, 2007, at 21:34 , Bernardo Innocenti wrote: Mitch Bradley wrote: Perhaps we should reconsider the wisdom of hourly builds, or quit sending hourly change reports, or something. ...or not running new builds unless the datestamps of the source directories say something has

Re: New joyride build 131

2007-10-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
regularly scheduled programming. (no pun intended, of course :) On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 09:38:42PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On Oct 28, 2007, at 21:34 , Bernardo Innocenti wrote: Mitch Bradley wrote: Perhaps we should reconsider the wisdom of hourly builds, or quit sending hourly change

Re: Reporting bugs

2007-10-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
at 17:49 +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On Oct 28, 2007, at 17:37 , Zarro Boogs per Child wrote: Changes (by jg): * cc: sj (added) * status: new = closed * resolution: = invalid Comment: Closing due to lack of interest on the part of the reporter... Comments like

Re: New joyride build 131

2007-10-29 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Pah, looks like it tried every 15 minutes over night but did not stop sending out mails ... I now changed the script to only send out mail when a new successful build is found that actually has any changed package versions. - Bert - On Oct 28, 2007, at 22:24 , Bert Freudenberg wrote

Re: Reporting bugs

2007-10-29 Thread Bert Freudenberg
properly triaging a bug report takes 5 to 20 minutes of either Jim or Kim's time, followed by more time from the developer to which it is assigned. Users reporting the bug get the easy part of the task! John On Oct 29, 2007, at 2:52 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: I've had comments like

Re: Activity bundle Query

2007-10-29 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Depends on your targeted Sugar version, which are not compatible with each other. In the old days, that is, the software that is going to be put into mass production, a.k.a. build 622, you had to execute an activity factory that would then run instances of your activity. This is obsolete

Re: Activity bundle Query

2007-10-29 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Oct 29, 2007, at 9:35 , Waqas Toor wrote: Hello , but i was able to run the application from the terminal using gij command and it works fine ... so is there a way that i could bundle it Of course. The XO bundle format and Sugar were designed to work fine independent of your

Re: list of rouge packages

2007-10-29 Thread Bert Freudenberg
for now might be to review the packages and have someone else get them into Fedora. Build manager also needs to keep ontop of olpc-cla to make sure it goes through if needed. owner: bertf(Bert Freudenberg) tmprepo: etoys-2.1.1664-1.noarch.rpm squeak-vm-3.9-11olpc5.i386.rpm Versions

Re: Signed build 623

2007-10-30 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Oct 30, 2007, at 3:01 , C. Scott Ananian wrote: A signed image for build 623 is at: http://dev.laptop.org/~cscott/signed-623/ for those of you testing with security enabled. If I want to test with security enabled - can I still get out without a developer key? If not, what's the

Mass retargeting of releases

2007-10-30 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Apparently all tickets have been mass-moved from the former 1.0 milestone to 1.1, without leaving a trace in the individual ticket's changelogs. Since no tickets for Etoys are left in the upcoming milestone, can I go home now? Anybody care to explain what's going on? - Bert -

Re: Reporting bugs

2007-10-30 Thread Bert Freudenberg
, and then close it if the reporter does not bother to even acknowledge the request for more information. Is this reasonable, or not? - Jim On Tue, 2007-10-30 at 03:17 -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: Bert Freudenberg writes: I've had comments like this on some of my own

Re: New joyride build 173

2007-10-30 Thread Bert Freudenberg
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Build_system - Bert - On Oct 30, 2007, at 17:40 , Erik Blankinship wrote: I apologize if I missed the announcement on how activities get into the various new builds. In the past, we would assign trac tickets to J5. What do we do now? On 10/30/07, Build

Re: [IMPORTANT] build and release process explanation

2007-10-30 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Oct 30, 2007, at 17:55 , Ivan Krstić wrote: * please send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why email? Email tends to be a black hole, whereas using a Trac ticket allows to track progress and makes sure things are not forgotten. - Bert - ___

Re: how to make a grayscale image?

2007-11-02 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Nov 2, 2007, at 3:16 , Albert Cahalan wrote: Eben Eliason writes: Roughly speaking, you can calculate a colored pixel's effective luminance by: Y = 0.3*R+0.59*G+0.11*B To be clear on why this is rough: it performs an operation on non-linear data which is only valid on linear data.

Re: Compiler optimization for Geode

2007-11-02 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Nov 2, 2007, at 1:39 , Brian Carnes wrote: I'm intentionally overlooking some of the suggestions from the list to go rewrite existing applications to run better on the Geode, mostly because the above gives us more bang for our development-time-buck. Short of rewriting, should simply

Re: Bitfrost compliance for Update.1

2007-11-02 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Nov 2, 2007, at 3:28 , Walter Bender wrote: 1. File-path compliance means that you must ensure your activity does not write to any path outside of that contained in the environment variable SUGAR_ACTIVITY_ROOT; specifically subdirectories called 'data', 'conf' and 'tmp' within the

Activities downgraded in Joyride 247

2007-11-06 Thread Bert Freudenberg
See http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/joyride-pkgs.html Many activities were downgraded to older versions. - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

SUGAR_BUNDLE_PATH and rainbow

2007-11-07 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Nov 7, 2007, at 4:51 , Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: Michael Stone wrote: I note that Clock doesn't work at all (Stays in Starting... forever), If you look at /home/olpc/.sugar/default/logs/shell.log you'll see that Clock is crashing during startup trying to find 'clock.svg'. Heads

Re: SUGAR_ACTIVITY_ROOT

2007-11-07 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Nov 7, 2007, at 16:52 , Michael Stone wrote: $SAR/instance seems like a safer place to me because there will be no concurrency issues, but I have no plans to start the Apocalyse if someone tries to check in a file from $SAR/data. :) Okay, makes it simpler for me. Incidentally, how do

SUGAR_ACTIVITY_ROOT

2007-11-07 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Nov 7, 2007, at 4:23 , Zarro Boogs per Child wrote: Activities should only create files in $SUGAR_ACTIVITY_ROOT/data (for persistent data), in $SUGAR_ACTIVITY_ROOT/instance (for transmission to and from the DS, basically), and in $SUGAR_ACTIVITY_ROOT/tmp (for small bits of

Re: New joyride build 255

2007-11-07 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Nov 7, 2007, at 21:45 , Build Announcer Script wrote: http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/joyride-pkgs.html Looks like the mail queue was unclogged finally :) Guess #4598 can be closed then ... Anybody knows what was wrong? - Bert - ___ Devel mailing

Re: secure /tmp and /var/tmp

2007-11-08 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Nov 8, 2007, at 16:51 , Jim Gettys wrote: I sympathize with Albert's point here: we should be no more incompatible than we have to be... Just because we have to break some things, doesn't mean we have to break everything. - Jim +1 - Bert -

Re: [sugar] secure /tmp and /var/tmp

2007-11-08 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Nov 8, 2007, at 18:09 , Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: Though applications backwards compatibility just doesn't make sense in this context. We consciously broke it with the high level design, both of the user experience and of the security framework. That's not the point. The point is how hard

Re: Emulating stable build in Parallels Desktop on Mac OS X

2007-11-11 Thread Bert Freudenberg
if that helps... :-) Gruss. On Nov 11, 2007 11:22 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I made a disk image of the latest stable build (623 [1]) that works for me in Parallels Desktop (build 3124 [2]). The disk image has enough room (I padded the img to a full 1 GB), runs

Re: New update1 build 630

2007-11-12 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Btw, this diff is actually relative to build 625. - Bert - On Nov 12, 2007, at 6:57 , Build Announcer Script wrote: http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/update1/build630/ devel_jffs2/ -abyssinica-fonts.noarch 0:1.0-1.fc7 +abyssinica-fonts.noarch 0:1.0-1.olpc2 -acl.i386

[OT] German mailing list

2007-11-13 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Just want to let the German subscribers know that there is now a German OLPC mailing list: http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-de Thanks to Danny for setting this up! - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

Telling time (was: StopWatch activity)

2007-11-14 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Nov 14, 2007, at 22:37 , Eben Eliason wrote: I'm talking, really, about interaction overhead. In order to see the current time I should press a key, or make a gesture with the mouse, or something similar. I shouldn't have to find the clock activity wherever that might be, click to launch

Re: News Reader hosting application

2007-11-15 Thread Bert Freudenberg
In fact, you *only* need a shell account. - Bert - On Nov 15, 2007, at 23:11 , Owen Williams wrote: oh I thought it would be done through ftp. Then I'll also need one shell account for ywwg so I can feel the joy, please. owen On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 22:59 +0100, Marco Pesenti Gritti

Re: A Clock project in Etoys

2007-11-16 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Nov 16, 2007, at 6:15 , Yoshiki Ohshima wrote: http://dev.laptop.org/~yoshiki/etoys/Clock.004.pr One way or another, please load it onto Etoys (on a non-XO environment, drag-and-drop from Finder or Explorer. On XO, access the URL with browse, copy it to a USB memory and resume it

[OT] Re: Egads! :-)

2007-11-16 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Nov 16, 2007, at 14:10 , Ed Montgomery wrote: As mentioned, any poster who wants to discuss education, philosophy, etc. email me personally, and stop cluttering up a dev conference with such drivel. Too bad there is no forum I am aware of that discusses education in this education

Re: Msoffice on xo

2007-11-16 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Nov 16, 2007, at 13:44 , Walter Bender wrote: Etoys can view Powerpoint Not quite (but I admit Etoys is so rich that even I cannot remember everything). As far as I know, you can export Powerpoint slides to a series of images, and import them in Etoys to recreate the presentation. and

Re: Ghost My new Activity need help.

2007-11-16 Thread Bert Freudenberg
You can see what software is installed in the build logs, e.g. http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build286/ devel_jffs2/build.log and you can verify it works by emulation: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Emulating_the_XO The cwd is set to your activity's bundle directory, so you

Re: Telling time (was: StopWatch activity)

2007-11-16 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Nov 16, 2007, at 21:13 , nick knouf wrote: On Nov 16, 2007, at 1:57 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote: Well, it seems that you are responding to a wrong message. Not really; if the question is whether or not there is a clock application that is standard on the laptop, implicit there is a

Re: Telling time (was: StopWatch activity)

2007-11-16 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Nov 17, 2007, at 0:21 , Mitch Bradley wrote: This is a Color of the Bikeshed issue. Give it a rest. The clock discussion is, you're right. Reminding everyone that we set out to create an environment for kids to explore and construct is not. It's perplexing how few developers seem to

Re: Updates for Update.1 from Joyride

2007-11-20 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Nov 20, 2007, at 20:43 , Jim Gettys wrote: Joyride and Update.1 were synchronized as of Monday evening, November 21. I guess you made a sign error when subtracting 1 from today and meant Nov. 19th. But, more importantly - could you let us know what the plan is with Update.1? I see

Re: Pen Tablet reacts slowly

2007-11-22 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On current builds the tablet seems to be disabled completely (which makes sense at it was not really supported anyway). - Bert - On Nov 22, 2007, at 16:48 , Andre Schmeißer wrote: Hi, isn't there anyone who can help me with this? I'd like to know if you experience the same behavior when

Re: where should I put additional libraries in an activity bundle?

2007-11-25 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Nov 25, 2007, at 1:44 , Christoph Derndorfer wrote: Hey all, Daniel and me are just sitting here and working on the activity handbook when we came across the following question: Is there a defined directory or way how additional libraries should be included in an activity bundle?

Re: OLPC XEyes

2007-11-26 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Nov 26, 2007, at 17:49 , Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: On Mon, 26 Nov 2007, Don Hopkins wrote: PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, somebody sugarize XEyes! And then write a tutorial on how you did it. :) Tutorial how to do it in Etoys (SCNR): 1. Start Etoys 2. Click Make a Project 3. Click Supplies in

Re: New ship.2 build 643

2007-11-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Nov 28, 2007, at 14:44 , C. Scott Ananian wrote: On Nov 28, 2007 8:09 AM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What designation does this build have for olpcupdate? I get an unknown module: ship.2 error. Sorry, the upgrade server didn't know about 'ship.2'. Fixed; it should

Re: Active activities as Widgets

2007-11-29 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Nov 29, 2007, at 9:15 , Morgan Collett wrote: Sugar will gain a feature called overlay chat, once we've got higher priority collaboration stuff completed, which will automagically add chat functionality to any (sugarised, python) activity. I thought this was intended to be a feature

Re: Joyride

2007-12-01 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Dec 1, 2007, at 11:16 , Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: Hello, joyride does not seem to be building hourly any more. Intentional? Scott mentioned it builds every 3 hours ... - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

Re: clean installation of 643.

2007-12-04 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Dec 4, 2007, at 16:10 , C. Scott Ananian wrote: On Dec 4, 2007 8:23 AM, ffm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The USB process is supported, but the manual instructions do not. Use the Sugar-update.py script. Just fair warning: this entire process is highly deprecated. Even if you can get it to

Re: New joyride build 1363

2007-12-04 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Dec 4, 2007, at 18:21 , C. Scott Ananian wrote: On Dec 4, 2007 4:30 AM, Build Announcer Script [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- olpc-library-core.noarch 1-10 --- * Fixing intro to the XO, with Walter's new intro, and links. * Smaller for jg; will rebuild to larger in a few days. The

Intel XO

2007-12-04 Thread Bert Freudenberg
What is the Intel XO? - Bert - On Dec 4, 2007, at 19:04 , Zarro Boogs per Child wrote: #5314: Intel XO should provide safe firmware update. - +-- Reporter: cscott | Owner: wad Type:

Opening (was Re: #5348 NORM Future : etoys overwrites existing journal entries)

2007-12-06 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Dec 6, 2007, at 22:01 , Eben Eliason wrote: So the difference would be that a media viewer that is allowed to open a file must only retain references to the original media instead of copying? Until very recently, references from one datastore object (the saved activity state) to

Re: Bundling Python extensions that depend on C libraries

2007-12-08 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Dec 8, 2007, at 1:15 , Asheesh Laroia wrote: I'd like to bundle a Python C extension and use it from my activity. This requires Python to dlopen() a shared library whose path can change depending on where the activity is installed, but also whose path is different than on my desktop

Re: status of MANIFEST file

2007-12-08 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Dec 9, 2007, at 1:18 , Christoph Derndorfer wrote: So what I'm basically asking is what the exact requirements for the MANIFEST file are as activities seem to work regardless of what it contains. Currently, the MANIFEST is not consulted at all when installing or running, an activity

Re: translating policy, any ?

2007-12-09 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Dec 9, 2007, at 10:41 , Andi wrote: Hello List, is there any translating policy that I have oversight ? If yes, point me someone to that policy please. If no, what is the official intention by the majority of the translators and/or decision-makers about using native terms as much as

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