Re: XO in-field upgrades

2007-06-24 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 6/24/07, Ivan Krstić [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I should have a concrete spec ready for discussion later today. I will wait with bated breath. =) Some concrete concerns -- I've got some answers to these, but I'll try to just present the questions at this point: a) Robustness -- what can

Re: XO in-field upgrades

2007-06-25 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 6/25/07, Christopher Blizzard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most of the stuff that Alex has done is (carefully) independent of any vserver or container discussion. Specifically, the update system in question could be applied inside of a container as easy as it would be outside of the container.

Re: XO in-field upgrades

2007-06-25 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 6/25/07, Christopher Blizzard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The broadcast just contains a product/version ID - doesn't have to include the entire update. No more expensive than the presence stuff we have today. You're misunderstanding me. My concern is with waking machines up by broadcasting

Fwd: XO in-field upgrades

2007-06-25 Thread C. Scott Ananian
[grumble, sent this from the wrong email address.] -- Forwarded message -- Here are some quick numbers justifying the use of binary diffs as an upgrade delivery format. I just grabbed the latest debian security advisory for Etch, which happened to be:

Re: Fwd: XO in-field upgrades

2007-06-25 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 6/25/07, Christopher Blizzard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2007-06-25 at 15:38 -0400, C. Scott Ananian wrote: To my mind, this makes it clear that the on-wire format should be a binary diff. We could uncompress these diffs on receipt and maintain a blob store as in the current

A different proposal for XO upgrade.

2007-06-25 Thread C. Scott Ananian
As food for discussion, here's a counter proposal for an XO upgrade mechanism, focusing on the network side. - Design goals: - minimize round-trips necessary for successful upgrade - minimize size of upgrades Software versions are assigned sequential integers. Version 1, 2, etc. We

Ivan's XO Field Upgrade Proposal

2007-06-26 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Ivan dropped by 1cc tonight, and I was able to squeeze the details of *his* field upgrade proposal out of him. As I haven't yet seen him email this to the list, I'll try to state it for him. Hopefully he can then give a diff against my version, which will save him time. The XO already needs to

Re: Ivan's XO Field Upgrade Proposal

2007-06-26 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 6/26/07, Mike C. Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: g) I believe that we can use plain old hard links when we do the rsync, instead of requiring any fancy vserver stuff. rsync will break the link appropriately when it needs to modify a file (as long as the --inplace option isn't

Re: A different proposal for XO upgrade.

2007-06-26 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 6/26/07, Christopher Blizzard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (I know that some Red Hat guys did something like this for a customer where an entire bank's set of terminals could be completely re-imaged after a power failure in 20 seconds using a mutlicast-rsync setup. I should see more about

Re: System update spec proposal

2007-06-26 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 6/26/07, Ivan Krstić [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: term one. It's still my *strong* hunch that we are not going to run into any issues whatsoever given our update sizes and the fact that we're serving them from reasonably beefy school server machines, so adding this functionality to rsync would

Trac login?

2007-06-26 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I tried to create an account on trac (http://dev.laptop.org/) with userid 'cscott' and something seems to have gone wrong: it won't let me log in, but it complains that an account with the userid 'cscott' already exists if I try to recreate the account. However, when I try to use the 'lost

rsync benchmarking

2007-06-27 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I wrote a quick ~60 line script to do non-recursive rsync a directory at a time. Actually, it's a little smarter than that: it generates manifests for each directory, and syncs the tree by first syncing the root (and the root's manifest). It then checks the directory hashes in the roots manifest

Re: rsync benchmarking

2007-06-28 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 6/28/07, Ivan Krstić [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: regardless of how large it is. Scott fixes this by externally breaking down the tree into smaller chunks and then rsyncing those individually, such that the memory consumption during any particular rsync operation remains relatively small. This

Re: Upgrades and image manifests

2007-06-29 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Please read Ivan's update proposal. He addresses many of the peripheral issues that have arisen, re user notification, etc. At this point, as far as I'm concerned, the only open question is how we get a filesystem image onto the laptop once we know which one to get. Ivan suggests rsync; I

Upgrade Plans

2007-06-29 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Michail needs to run mesh tests on 50+ laptops. He needs an automated way to get slightly customized versions of the OLPC software quickly to all of these. In the next few days I'll be working on hacking together a quick prototype of: a) the part of the antitheft server which tells a laptop

Re: System update spec proposal

2007-06-29 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 6/28/07, Wayne Davison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't recommend deploying rsync 3 widely just yet. I'm going to be working on finalizing the release in the near future, but there is still a chance that protocol 30 (which is new for this release) may still need to be changed a bit

Re: Inflation

2007-07-06 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 7/4/07, Pádraig Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For example there are many duplicate py[oc] files, and /usr/share/activities/TamTam.activity/Resources/Sounds/lab[1-6] all contain the same data (wasting 600K alone). The current proposal for downloading/updating activities on the XO should end

pivot_root on boot

2007-07-06 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Quick recap of early boot: a) open firmware checks the status of the foo key, and signature-checks and boots either the primary or the backup kernel, passing fs=primary or fs=backup on the kernel command-line. b) an initramfs script looks for an activation record in /, and initiates activation

Re: Early boot, activation, upgrades

2007-07-09 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 7/9/07, Mitch Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I looked at those git trees and didn't see the python runtime stuff in the initramfs tree. How does it get included, and how big is it? Packages in initramfs are specified by:

Re: Early boot, activation, upgrades

2007-07-10 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 7/10/07, Mitch Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Decompression is fast, but the signature verification is not so fast, especially since there are several different algorithms. Can't we just SHA1 the kernel+initrd bundle and sign the hash? SHA1 should be fast enough... --scott --

Re: OpenID - status?

2007-07-10 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I'm jumping in without having a full understanding of OpenID here, so forgive me if I get some points wrong, but: As I understand the BitFrost specification, OpenID is only used to extend the local authentication mechanisms (XO-to-school server) to the outside world (Google backups, etc). See:

Re: [Testing] RC2 and New bugs

2007-07-10 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 7/10/07, Zack Cerza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this the same update feature as Manual XO updates, don't lose user data from http://dev.laptop.org/roadmap ? If so, maybe it should be removed from there. No, updating from a USB key is a separate feature. --scott --

Activation and new builds.

2007-07-19 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Activation in now in the builds, starting with 518. That means that you *must* use the autoreinstallation procedure documented at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Autoreinstallation_image and linked to from the front page of the wiki (top left, how to update), instead of manually using the

Re: Activation and new builds.

2007-07-20 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 7/19/07, Zephaniah E. Hull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How does that impact those of us wishing to boot from SD for development purposes? Make sure you're using the jffs2 image (either directly, or unpacked from the tree.tar file). Copy the activation lease from /security/activate.key from

Re: Could not activate this XO error

2007-07-23 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Coming late to this discussion, but: - the new autoreinstallation script doesn't require editing olpc.fth - renaming the version file on the install stick doesn't change the version number read after it is installed, so it is harmless and recommended - renaming the version file also allows

Re: First impressions of a B4 machine

2007-07-23 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Only a few replies to points not yet covered: On 7/23/07, Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can't be helped. What could be done, however, is hide the diagnostic dialogs with a simple splash screen stating POWERING ON, or LOADING, You have to consider that these are primarily

Re: Activation and new builds.

2007-07-25 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 7/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, C.Scott, Excuse me to bother you. If I want to use command nandwrite -p /dev/mtd0 /path The method from http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Installing_to_NAND#flash_eraseall:_.2Fdev.2Fmtd0:_No_such_file_or_directory What do I need to notice?

Re: Registration w/ school server

2007-07-25 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 7/25/07, Ivan Krstić [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 24, 2007, at 7:38 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: I need to make sure XO registration w/ the school server works for Trial-2. Ivan, if you've got an security/protocol designs/requests, now is the time. You should coordinate with Nelson

Re: Registration w/ school server

2007-07-29 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 7/29/07, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/25/07, Ivan Krstić [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should coordinate with Nelson and Christine who I've asked to write the prototype identity manager for the school server. Let's meet soon and hash out the details. Does Moodle/OpenID

Re: [PATCH] Adding the olpc-register script to olpc-util

2007-07-30 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 7/30/07, Nelson Elhage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a fixed version of the patch. Looks good to me. --scott -- ( http://cscott.net/ ) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: 406.15 - ext3 images?

2007-08-02 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 8/2/07, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tend to keep a few usb sticks around with different images. And dd'ing a new image to a USB stick and booting is much much easier than the contortions listed in http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Autoreinstallation_image I suggest that you try it.

Re: Usable builds in the 5xx series on B2s?

2007-08-02 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Please use the devel_jffs image, either in tar form or on NAND. The ext3 images are emulator only at the moment; they should be renamed at some point. --scott -- ( http://cscott.net/ ) ___ Devel mailing list

Turtle Art samples

2007-08-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Attached are some fractal samples for turtle art: sierpinski triangle, sierpinski carpet, koch snowflake, and a fractal tree. Enjoy. --scott ps. Kim -- could you make sure Lincoln sees this? -- ( http://cscott.net/ ) ___

Re: e-Book reader

2007-08-06 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 8/3/07, Yoric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With this in mind, I intend to be able to reference * the package itself (to be able to download it, from Firefox or from anywhere else) http://canonical.source/alice.in.wonderland.zip Obtaining this URL from the URL of an individual page of the book

Re: e-Book reader

2007-08-06 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 8/6/07, Yoric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2007-08-06 at 03:12 -0400, C. Scott Ananian wrote: On 8/3/07, Yoric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With this in mind, I intend to be able to reference * the package itself (to be able to download it, from Firefox or from anywhere else

Re: Re Trial-2 activity sugar release notes.

2007-08-07 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 8/4/07, Mitchell N Charity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fyi, build 542 runs in qemu (unlike many 5xx builds), That's good news! For Trial-3, it might be worth committing up front to keeping emulation unbroken, so that emulation-based QA folks can be recruited and contribute. We do try to

Autoreinstallation now saves user directory by default.

2007-08-15 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I've turned on the preserve the contents of the user's directory feature in the Autoreinstallation image, and updated the wiki instructions at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Autoreinstallation_image Please re-read the instructions carefully, download the new olpc-auto.zip, test it out, and let me

Re: random questions

2007-08-18 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 8/18/07, NoiseEHC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I know there are LEDs indicating the camera/microphone activity. Have you thought about that if a rogue program uses the camera for 1/10 second in every second then the LED will blink fast enough that the user Don't know the answer to this one,

Re: Q2C24 bricks B2s

2007-08-19 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 8/19/07, Mitch Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Q2C24 has been removed from the download site, and the links to the version of olpc-auto.zip that contains Q2C24 have been broken - at least the ones I found - pending replacement with Q2C25. The autoreinstallation image now includes Q2C25.

Re: Q2C24 bricks B2s

2007-08-20 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 8/20/07, Simon Schamijer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bernardo Innocenti wrote: And, in case someone wants to downgrade, maybe we could As a workaround: Please read the Wiki! The downgrade instructions are documented. You just put an empty file named 'force.os' in the boot/ directory.

Re: Is there another OLPC image instead of devel ones

2007-08-21 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 8/21/07, Kleber Infante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to know if there is another OLPC image to download instead of devel ones. http://olpc.download.redhat.com/olpc/streams/development/LATEST/devel_ext3/olpc-redhat-stream-development-devel_ext3.img.bz2 this image is a developer image and I

Re: Anti-theft traceback on booting 553

2007-08-23 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 8/23/07, Mike C. Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trying to boot build 553 in a VirtualBox environment (testing fix in [1]), I see a failure in the activation code (I'm copying this manually): This is now bug 2981 in trac; discussion moved there. --scott -- (

Re: Auto-building emulator downloads

2007-08-26 Thread C. Scott Ananian
We've been running and building qemu images on xs-dev; you might consider doing root-stuff on a machine which is not dev. xs-dev already has qemu, etc installed. rsync does not require you to be root; fakeroot works quite well. Mounting loopback filesystems, on the other hand... maybe FUSE can

Re: Nepalese have right attitude

2007-09-05 Thread C. Scott Ananian
But be careful of the skin: http://www.wfsb.com/news/14049418/detail.html http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,295833,00.html http://www.recall-warnings.com/cpsc-content-74-74026.html http://www.wtopnews.com/?nid=104sid=1239680 --scott -- ( http://cscott.net/ )

Re: save-nand problem

2007-09-08 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 9/8/07, Yuan Chao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/8/07, Juliano Bittencourt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm having problems using the save-nand OFW command to created a customized version of the OS. In the near past I used this command 1. When I try to create the image file with the

Re: Pippy and Calculate - Evolution Solution

2007-09-10 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 9/9/07, Yoshiki Ohshima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To reiterate my point, I think the code behind should be *ideally* presented in different ways that different learners can understand. In Etoys, you can go from visual tile scripting to (say) textual Smalltalk to the Smalltalk parse tree to

Re: Auto-building emulator downloads

2007-09-19 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 9/16/07, Mike C. Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't worry too much about upgrading -- as long as your developer tools are in /home/olpc they will be preserved across updates by the upgrade magic which is going to land on Monday. Is that magic already in-place? If so, how is it

Performance tuning for the XO

2007-09-21 Thread C. Scott Ananian
We make currently make heavy use of hashing in our upgrade verification infrastructure. I'd like to find the fastest possible implementation of the SHA-256 and/or RIPEMD-160 algorithms. Can anyone offer me advice on the proper compilation options and strategies for maximum performance on the

Re: Performance tuning for the XO

2007-09-22 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 9/22/07, Mitch Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some timing for libtomcrypt with various compilation options. All times are for hashing 1MiB of data from memory, timed under Open Firmware with interrupts disabled. [...] So, with this code, the slow version does sha256 at about 4 MiB/sec,

Re: Performance tuning for the XO

2007-09-22 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 9/22/07, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't seem terribly committed to any particular hash. How about picking one that the Geode is especially good at? You have AES acceleration hardware, and there are several ways to turn a block cipher like AES into a hash. This is

Re: UI for secure web and email

2007-10-03 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 10/3/07, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The usual secure site icon and bad certificate warnings have lots of problems. Note that security in the browser has been *extensively* studied in academia, and there are numerous suggestions for improvements in the literature. We should

Re: UI for secure web and email

2007-10-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 10/4/07, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Specificly about the UI, or just security in general? Both. They are strongly related in the case of the browser. XSS and similar can be defeated later. Holding up security-related UI improvements is no good. I'm not advocating holding up

Re: New manufacturing data flags for keyboards (2nd draft).

2007-10-08 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 10/7/07, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ideally the firmware would allow changing certain things without being unlocked. (everything that doesn't help break anti-theft) Could be: we can add a UI for modification of these strings later if it happens often enough in the field to be

Re: slightly long and detailed proposal for documentation-translation workflow

2007-10-16 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 10/15/07, Ed Trager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: translate and easier for younger readers to understand. This will also help the writer avoid the passive construction, which is very difficult for some non-native English speakers to understand. I agree completely that the English passive

Re: Pilgrim patch to remove sugar tmp repo

2007-10-20 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 10/20/07, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cleaned the sugar tmp repo, moved the still relevant rpms to my public_rpms and opened tickets to move some of them to the owners public_rpms. So I think we can just disable tmp repo now. Patch attached, ok to checkin to autobuild

Re: Pilgrim patch to remove sugar tmp repo

2007-10-20 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Ah, sorry, I read too fast the first time. Your patch also removes the tmp repo from the yum config written to the XO; I suppose we'll have to point the XO's yum at the public joyride repo, but we could wait to do that until joyride arrives at its permanent home on build-me-a.laptop.org. OK to

Re: X won't come up on C2

2007-10-24 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 10/24/07, John Watlington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it's Trial3, try this: umount /home/olpc/.Xauthority This seems to be related to machines which change their hostname or IP address after first boot; I'm not sure exactly which. Everyone I asked said that there's no way that the

Re: New build 620

2007-10-26 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 10/26/07, Build Announcer Script [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Build 620 ChangeLog Base OS: - kernel - 2.6.22 - 20071025.2.olpc.bbb713f3c2b591f.i586.rpm * OLPC: add C2 and C3 board support I believe this kernel also has a fix for a suspend/resume bug wad cjb found while in China.

Signed build 622

2007-10-27 Thread C. Scott Ananian
A signed image for build 622 is at: http://dev.laptop.org/~cscott/signed-622/ for those of you testing with security enabled. --scott -- ( http://cscott.net/ ) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

Signed build 623

2007-10-29 Thread C. Scott Ananian
A signed image for build 623 is at: http://dev.laptop.org/~cscott/signed-623/ for those of you testing with security enabled. --scott -- ( http://cscott.net/ ) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

Re: log-collect / log-send

2007-10-29 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 10/29/07, Pascal Scheffers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've created a rough-cut log-collector, it's in d.l.o/git/project/log- activity/log-collect.py For now, it just outputs some system info, tell me what's missing or what would be interesting to include? My list from the whiteboard here

Re: is there space for Space for a joyride?

2007-10-29 Thread C. Scott Ananian
i believe we need an rpm, because space has dependencies and a daemon component. but, yes -- given the rpm there is definitely a desire to add it to joyride. --scott On 10/29/07, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: about 100kb. Pol Bernardo Innocenti wrote: Polychronis

Re: New joyride build 173

2007-10-30 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Short answer: put an .xo file in ~/public_rpms/joyride on dev.laptop.org. --scott On 10/30/07, Erik Blankinship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I apologize if I missed the announcement on how activities get into the various new builds. In the past, we would assign trac tickets to J5. What do we

Fwd: Build discussion

2007-10-31 Thread C. Scott Ananian
-- Forwarded message -- From: C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Oct 31, 2007 1:07 PM Subject: Re: Build discussion and Wed mtgs To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 10/31/07, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If we go via the build up from 623 strategy (over which I do have qualms

Re: Activities downgraded in Joyride 247

2007-11-06 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 11/6/07, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/joyride-pkgs.html Many activities were downgraded to older versions. Seems like I manually kicked off a build which stomped on a build-in-progress. Oops. =( I'm working on improvements to the process.

Re: [PyCON-Organizers] OLPCs not considerate wireless users

2007-11-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Laura Creighton wrote: I am at a conference. there are many OLPCs here. They are interfering with the wireless here. They apparantly do this even when not officially trying to be connected to the network, just being powered on is enough. Knowing what version of the software these

Unicode in filenames

2007-11-15 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Joyride-277 doesn't validate, because it contains a file from the library with a filename in non-normalized unicode. The file is named 'Annobo?n_Bioko-thumb.jpg', where the ? should be a separated accent on the o, but it is actually stored on the filename with a combined 'o+accent' glyph. Now,

Re: New ship.2 build 643

2007-11-28 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Nov 28, 2007 6:00 AM, Build Announcer Script [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/ship.2/build643/ I expect that this build fixes the following bugs from http://dev.laptop.org/milestone/Ship.2 : * Trac #3879, Robust olpc-update * Trac #5037, Update

Re: New ship.2 build 643

2007-11-28 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Nov 28, 2007 8:09 AM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What designation does this build have for olpcupdate? I get an unknown module: ship.2 error. Sorry, the upgrade server didn't know about 'ship.2'. Fixed; it should work now. --scott -- (

Re: New ship.2 build 643

2007-11-28 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Nov 28, 2007 9:16 AM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It recognizes ship2-643 now. But the update fails in the verification step: Contents manifest failure at line 492 Last file examined: feedparser.py It Works For Me (tm). Please file a trac bug w/ the your

Re: New ship.2 build 649

2007-11-30 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Nov 30, 2007 5:30 PM, Build Announcer Script [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/ship.2/build649/ This is now our ship.2 candidate. http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/os/official/649/jffs2/ Library cleanups and a Record fix. --scott --

Signed 648 (ship.2 release candidate)

2007-11-30 Thread C. Scott Ananian
A signed copy of build 648, which is our ship.2 release candidate, is now at: http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/os/official/648/jffs2/ This build contains firmware q2d05, available separately at: http://dev.laptop.org/pub/firmware/q2d05/ --scott -- (

Re: Joyride

2007-12-01 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Yes, it is intentional. If our ship.2 candidate holds up over the weekend, I'll turn joyride back on on Monday. At the moment I don't want to have to fight with the joyride builds if I need to do an emergency Ship.2 build before Monday. (Also it will hopefully concentrate attention and testing

Re: Wiki down

2007-12-03 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 2, 2007 8:35 PM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody know why the Wiki is malfunctioning? OLPC has a problem Fatal error: Call to a member function selectRow() on a non-object in /var/www/wiki.laptop.org/includes/User.php on line 752 I believe we were slashdotted

Re: clean installation of 643.

2007-12-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 4, 2007 5:02 AM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is preferred method really over the network? I'm so ignorant about it, but what is the current theory of upgrading? Does the current scheme let people download a 300MB file over the wireless? (I haven't tried it by

Re: olpc-update fails: When I attempt to update to ANY joyride, I get an error that Could not download update contents file from: rsync://updates.laptop.org/build-joyride-1364/contents I don't think t

2007-12-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 4, 2007 8:33 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 08:29 -0500, ffm wrote: When I attempt to update to ANY joyride, I get an error that [...] updates.laptop.org is not a valid domain This seems like a problem with your local DNS server. I get something

Re: clean installation of 643.

2007-12-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 4, 2007 8:23 AM, ffm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The USB process is supported, but the manual instructions do not. Use the Sugar-update.py script. Just fair warning: this entire process is highly deprecated. Even if you can get it to work for you now, there's no guarantee that it will

Re: olpc-update fails: When I attempt to update to ANY joyride, I get an error that Could not download update contents file from: rsync://updates.laptop.org/build-joyride-1364/contents I don't think t

2007-12-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 4, 2007 8:52 AM, ffm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/4/07, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pinging works for me, could be a problem in your local network. Try with: 'rsync rsync://updates.laptop.org'. That returns the available builds? Oops, sorry. I forgot that my network

Re: Signed 648 (ship.2 release candidate)

2007-12-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 4, 2007 8:49 AM, ffm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/4/07, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is an IRC Activity (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XoIRC) although I don't know whether it will be included by default. Sadly, while testing the latest joyride, I found that XoIRC

Re: clean installation of 643.

2007-12-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 4, 2007 10:21 AM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, what process do you suggest to upgrade without a permanent broadband internet connection? olpc-update via USB: trac #3881. Not fully implemented yet, which is the only reason why the autoreinstallation script is not

Re: boot failed after updating MP to joyride-357 (activation?)

2007-12-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 4, 2007 11:20 AM, Kim Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One extra piece of info: Once you get a developers key, you should 'disable security' from the OK prompt. No, I don't think I would recommend that in all cases. Having the developer key in /security is entirely equivalent, and lets

Re: New joyride build 1366

2007-12-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 4, 2007 3:54 PM, Owen Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why did news reader and those other activities get rolled back to older versions? It appears that tomeu's public_rpms didn't get collected properly (accounting for Journal and Write), nor did ywwg's (NewsReader) or some other folks.

Re: Intel XO

2007-12-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 4, 2007 4:36 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the Intel XO? It is a tentative version of the XO hardware using an Intel chipset. Intel has engineers looking at this possibility; this was a result of the OLPC/Intel agreement earlier this year. Timeframes, actual

Official signed ship.2 candidate 650

2007-12-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Official signed images for build 650 are now at: http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/os/official/650/jffs2/ You can also use: olpc-update 650 but be aware that build 650 fixes an open firmware bug which could cause your machine to fail to boot after you upgrade. That said, *please try using

Re: Official signed ship.2 candidate 650

2007-12-05 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 5, 2007 11:16 AM, Stephen Reilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is interesting because I used olpc-update 650 from home this morning and it installed but I have to say the last message before the system prompt was installing . it did not give a warm fuzzy feeling that it installed

Re: Official signed ship.2 candidate 650

2007-12-05 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 5, 2007 9:14 AM, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim Gettys wrote: -bash-3.2# olpc-update 650 Downlaoding contents of build 650. @Error unknown module 'build-650':md5 mismatch for build 650 On Wed, 2007-12-05 at 02:23 -0500, C. Scott Ananian wrote: olpc-update 650

Re: New joyride build 1386

2007-12-08 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 8, 2007 8:25 AM, ffm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Odd, I can not seem to use olpc-update. I am sure I have an Internet connection, I just don't think that it is published on the olpc binary diff update server. Please file a trac bug with complete details on the command you typed, the error

Re: status of MANIFEST file

2007-12-10 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 8, 2007 7:38 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 9, 2007, at 1:18 , Christoph Derndorfer wrote: So what I'm basically asking is what the exact requirements for the MANIFEST file are as activities seem to work regardless of what it contains. Currently, the

Re: status of MANIFEST file

2007-12-10 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 8, 2007 7:18 PM, Christoph Derndorfer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel and me are again having another weekend-jam working on the activity handbook and we've just spent the past half hour looking at different .xo packages from the git-repository to see how the MANIFEST file inside the

Re: Reducing pygame cpu-load to 4 %

2007-12-11 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I have patched Pippy's examples to follow best practices for pygame, so that the frame rate is limited to 20 FPS and games automatically pause and suspend after 20 seconds of inactivity. (These defaults can be overridden.) The patch is pullable from:

Help wanted: video demo!

2007-12-11 Thread C. Scott Ananian
We need a demo which shows off the full-screen video capabilities of the XO. Unfortunately, Record compresses its input rather heavily, so it's not a great demo for video playback. We bundle the Ogg Theora codecs, and Browse can play media files full-screen, so the first step is for someone to

Re: Help wanted: video demo!

2007-12-11 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 11, 2007 6:52 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Sesame Street video that runs in the Helix player (RV encoded) is quite a good demo of full screen video on the laptop. Is there a URL that that can be downloaded from? Does Erik's transcoding mechanism work to get it out of

Re: New update.1 build 656

2007-12-13 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 13, 2007 2:19 AM, Bernardo Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/13/07 00:58, Build Announcer Script wrote: +compat-libstdc++-33.i386 0:3.2.3-61 Why do we even need this? I don't know, but it's explicitly listed in pilgrim as a package to install. joyride has had it, but due to

Re: New update.1 build 656

2007-12-14 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 14, 2007 9:04 PM, ffm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should we be doing testing on this build, or on the latest joyride? Will all the changes made here be merged back with joyride eventualy? The other way round: all the changes made in joyride will eventually make their way to a stable build

Re: Update.1 builds

2007-12-15 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 15, 2007 7:41 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The location of the Update.1 builds has changed: http://pilgrim.laptop.org/~pilgrim/olpc/streams/update.1/ I'm not sure if it's the final location but it would be to update the Changelog to point to it.

Re: Builds and release process ( was Re: Update.1 schedule and code freeze...)

2007-12-15 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 15, 2007 10:26 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 15, 2007 3:54 PM, Bernardo Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Moreover, I was very confused by the fact that we branched Update.1 from Ship.2 rather than from Joyride, which I still considered our development

Re: Enable security in Update.1 builds

2007-12-15 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 15, 2007 10:38 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 15, 2007 4:36 PM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Roadmap lists activity isolation as a release criterion for Update.1. Was there a public announcement that I missed explaining why activity isolation

Re: Builds and release process

2007-12-15 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 15, 2007 11:52 AM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott has written very detailed instructions on how to do this but his documentation is currently located on the internalwiki in pursuit of, in my view, security by obscurity. Since I am not maintaining these servers, I do not

sudo, not su.

2007-12-18 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I'd like to draw devel@'s attention to trac bug 5537, which might land sometime soon: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/5537 The upshot would be that, instead of logging in directly as root with no password, you would log in directly as *olpc* with no password, and then sudo to root (if you need

Re: New joyride build 1452

2007-12-20 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Bernardo Innocenti wrote: I also disapprove adding bulky packages to our builds just for sake of debugging. In this case, this is said to be only temporary until we have shaken the most serious networking problems. As I've said before: normally you can say, just download the debugging

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