First Draft Development Process Proposal

2008-06-27 Thread Greg Smith
as needed. I especially want to know if it makes sense, looks useful and meets the goals outlined above. Comments on linked pages also welcome, especially: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Releases and http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Unscheduled_software_release_process Any input welcome. Thanks, Greg Smith OLPC

re: Release Status Meeting - 8.2.0 - Tomorrow, 2:00 PM EDT, various venues - Notes

2008-07-01 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, Marco, Greg, Kim, Joe, Paul, Eben, Chris, Scott, Jim, Denis, Michael and others people met on Tuesday July 1 at 2PM US ET via IRC, phone and in person. Sorry for the long e-mail but it was a very productive meeting and I want to keep everyone in the loop. Agenda is at:

Re: First Draft Development Process Proposal

2008-07-01 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, Thanks for all the comments on the Development Process. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_Process_Home A few gentle suggestions on managing the input. A - My intention is that this page (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_Process_Home) will be the final page. So please put comments and

Re: Release Status Meeting - 8.2.0 - Tomorrow, 2:00 PM EDT, various venues - Notes

2008-07-03 Thread Greg Smith
in previous releases or don't work according to documentation are flagged as critical items for resolution by keyword: blocks:8.2.0 Let me know if you that plan doesn't work for you. Thanks, Greg S C. Scott Ananian wrote: On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We talked

Re: How do we manage translation effort in Release, process/roadmap?

2008-07-03 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Korakurider, Thanks for reviewing the process page. Can you write up an explanation (or point me to the URL) on the steps and actions needed for translation in each release? An example of what happens and when for new languages is helpful too. Include what notifications should go out as

Re: Release 8.2.0 -- pls add critical features

2008-07-03 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Bryan, Thanks for keeping us apprised of your needs! However, I don't see any way that we can deliver on your first request in 8.2.0. The main challenge is that the release is already well defined and this is not part of it as it stands today. I'm also not aware of any feasible design

Re: Release 8.2.0 -- pls add critical features

2008-07-03 Thread Greg Smith
and put an item in the journal which allows you to remove them? If there's no quick fix and we're out of time then we may need to defer this one. Thanks, Greg S Eben Eliason wrote: On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 8:07 AM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On your second point, I think the thread

8.2.0 Beta Test

2008-07-07 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Bryan, Now that we are making progress on your requests I want to ask for some quid pro quo :-) Can your team allocate time to beta test 8.2.0? Can you write up a test plan and include kids and teachers in the test? Let me know if you are sure Nepal will deploy 8.2.0 regardless of the

8.2.0 Release Notes

2008-07-08 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, Who is writing the release notes for 8.2.0? I am seeing a lot of good info on improvements pass by in e-mail or in Trac exchanges (e.g. http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7443#comment:3). I want to start capturing them somewhere so users can see what changes/benefits are in the release.

Re: Subject: Re: Inappropriate use of private meetings lists - Communication of Decisions

2008-07-08 Thread Greg Smith
Hi NoiseEHC, I agree that the key problem is communication of decisions more than what decisions are being made. Several people have said that recently (e.g. localization team recently made the same point). I hope we can address this at the high level with an agreed process that include

Re: Release Status Meeting - 7/1 - Notes - Customers

2008-07-08 Thread Greg Smith
, 2008 at 6:16 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Kim will check with Peru and Greg will check with Uruguay teams to ensure that they do not plan to upgrade to 8.2.0. Action item due by July 20. Why don't we want

Re: 8.2.0 Release Notes

2008-07-09 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Eben, Thanks for the link, very useful! FYI I have a Releases page at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Releases Its still under construction but its basically meant to give the status, target users and link to documentation for all current releases. I added a link to your master release notes

Re: 8.2.0 Release Notes

2008-07-10 Thread Greg Smith
are suggesting. Let me know what you think. Thanks, Greg S Eben Eliason wrote: On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 11:07 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Eben, Thanks for the link, very useful! FYI I have a Releases page at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Releases I saw this. I'm wondering how it's meant

Re:8.2.0 Release Notes

2008-07-10 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, I made a little progress today on the release notes. See: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_Notes/8.2.0 Thanks to whoever posted the Sugar Control Panel pictures (I also upgraded an XO to 2128 try it myself, looks like I need a newer version to get the latest). One comment on the

Re: Subject: Re: New 8.2 Stream To: OLPC Devel

2008-07-11 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Guys, Interesting links, especially the diffs! I posted these links on the 8.2.0 overview page in a new section: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/8.2.0#Latest_Build_and_Diffs_from_Previous_Builds Let me know if that is OK with you. Can you add a little more to the explanation for these on the wiki

Re: [Localization] How do we manage translation effort in Release, process/roadmap?

2008-07-11 Thread Greg Smith
a basic document at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Localization/Workflow Comments and brickbats are welcome :-). Regarding you questions - please see inline :-) On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Korakurider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Release Process Update

2008-07-11 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, I collected recent feedback and updated the Release Process Home: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_Process_Home Finalization of this will take time. We should move ahead with 8.2.0 and learn from it and plan to use the new process for 8.2.1 and 9.1.0. I addressed as many comments as

Activity Backward Compatibility (was re: Re: joyride 2128 smoketest)

2008-07-11 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Guys, We should definitely have backward compatibility for activities! That is, activities that used to work (maybe starting at 656) must continue to work. If a new release requires that all activity authors have to recode some of their work, that will be a major deterrent to working with us.

Re: Activity Backward Compatibility (was re: Re: joyride 2128 smoketest)

2008-07-14 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, Responding to all in one pass. From Scott - The general solution to this problem is trac #4951, the activity updater, which I've landed recently. Trac #7495 says that the first boot after an upgrade should open the activity updater, so that a version of the activity compatible with

Faster Launch of Activities

2008-07-14 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Tomeu et al, One persistent request from the users is for faster response of the XO (e.g. http://sextosdela37.blogspot.com/2008/04/analizando-el-uso-de-las-laptop-en-el.html) I believe the new Sugar GUI in 8.2.0 may help with that by launching activities faster. I'm told you may know more

Re: Faster Launch of Activities

2008-07-14 Thread Greg Smith
in the code (e.g. sugar changes) that will improve performance in terms of speed of interface or launching of activities. Thanks, Greg S C. Scott Ananian wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Daniel Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 11:35 -0400, Greg Smith wrote

Code name for 9.1.0

2008-07-14 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, I need to create a page where I can start organizing ideas and gathering requirements for 9.1.0. I plan to refer to it by code name instead of number until its released (thanks to Scott for the suggestion). My suggestion is to use names of famous pedagogues as code names. I suggest

Re: LZO support

2008-07-15 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Erik, Can you design a test case or two to test the performance of these compression schemes? Thanks, Greg S ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Re: Faster Launch of Activities

2008-07-15 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Ricardo, Can you post your test description? It would be useful to see a comparison of build 656 v 703 v 708 v latest joyride. That's a lot so just 703 (last release image) vs latest Joyride would the top priority. Michael, What is the latest version of Joyride that people should be

Re: Code name for 9.1.0

2008-07-15 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Guys, I believe Freire is pronounced fr eh ee ray. I thought this list was the community you were referring to. Let me know exactly what e-mail lists or wiki pages or whatever you want for communication strategy. Good point from James about Freire being political which may be a problem. I

Info on Deployed XOs

2008-07-15 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, I believe that the XOs which are on the Internet phone home unsocially and leave some info on OLPC servers. I think we lose some granularity of detail due to NATing but we may still get some useful info. Can we determine how many XOs are running each release from this info? If so,

Re: [Server-devel] EduBlog: Direct Links

2008-07-15 Thread Greg Smith
] Subject: [Server-devel] EduBlog: Direct Links To: Greg Smith (gregmsmi) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi, I think we will need to create direct links to the EduBlog pages within

Re: [sw-eco] q2e11 firmware for 8.1.2 ECO

2008-07-15 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Richard, Thanks for the details! Can you post this to a page using the format and naming convention of this one: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_SW-ECO_5 The next free number is 6. Michael, Is there one SW ECO page for the whole release or do we have a separate SW ECO page for every

Re: How to improve the state of the touchpad for August.

2008-07-15 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Michael, Can we add this to the agenda for todays 8.2.0 meeting? I want to talk about how we confirm the touchpad will be improved in 8.2.0 more than reviewing the specific bugs. I made a quick scan through the bug list but its not clear to me which will improve the user experience and

Re: Info on Deployed XOs

2008-07-15 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Guys, I'm working the manufacturing side and the human side. Just wanted to know if we have any data coming from pings. Even if I know how many XOs are on the internet that would be useful data. Give me what you have or let me know where to find it. Thanks, Greg S BTW spell check changed

Re: [sugar] Activity versioning schema

2008-07-16 Thread Greg Smith
+1 on Gary's comments! Hysterical and spot on. Please keep them coming and let me know if I can help you with your project participation. This is an important discussion about version numbers. The most important part will be coming to a working assumption (albeit temporary and subject to

Re: [Localization] How do we manage translation effort in, Release, process/roadmap?

2008-07-16 Thread Greg Smith
as the number of strings which are being changed in a given release cycle. I would say a period of 30 days in enough. You may also find the schedule at http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointTwentythree to be interesting. Thanks, Sayamindu On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 10:17 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Devel Digest, Vol 29, Issue 93

2008-07-16 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Brian, Michael, et al, Thanks for the notes. On this: * What build should you be testing / providing packages for? 8.2 stream has some divergence http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/8.2-joyride.html I'm still not sure which image to spend my time on and QA is asking the same. Can you pick

Re: [sugar] Activity versioning schema

2008-07-16 Thread Greg Smith
. Obviously we start with 1.) if this is incorrect, please, PLEASE (!!) remove it from the f$# %ing bit rot wiki! Michael Stone wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 09:10:56AM -0400, Greg Smith wrote: Who can gather the consensus and take responsibility for updating the wiki if needed? No one

Autosave in 8.2.0?

2008-07-16 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, I have a priority request from the field to not lose any saved data. I believe we already do that except in the case of a crash or freeze of activities (no crashes is another request :-). Is that right? I heard we may have implemented some interim saving feature since 656. Does anyone

Official (draft) Trac Ticket Workflow

2008-07-16 Thread Greg Smith
Greg and Michael discussed how we want to close tickets. Our conclusions and questions: * All resolved tickets should state that documentation was provided or that no documentation was needed. - How should we represent this boolean choice? * Tickets in the 'next_action == finalize'

Re: [sugar] Display warnings in sugar

2008-07-16 Thread Greg Smith
know what is important to you, what you like and what you don't like. Uruguay is our biggest deployment right now so we will act as quickly as possible on your feedback. Thanks, Greg Smith OLPC Product Manager PS Lo siento que no nos conocimos cuando usted estuvo en Cambridge. Estoy a su servicio

Re: Devel Digest, Vol 29, Issue 106

2008-07-17 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Martin, We need keep that capability of upgrade from anywhere to anywhere if at all possible! That is a huge benefit for our customers and for our managing the scope of testing. Even if we can just keep that from any 70x forward it will be a big help. I know we hope 8.2.0 is rock solid but

Release Process Updates to Build Section

2008-07-17 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Dennis, When you have a chance, can you update the Release Process Home page: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_Process_Home#Types_of_Builds If you can define the olpc3 build train that will help. Any other suggestions you have for understanding our build process and helping people use it

Re: Code name for 9.1.0 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

2008-07-17 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Paul, Sorry about the subject screw up. That's twice in two days :-( I know that downgrade is hard. The great thing is that the XO supports that very elegantly right now! I don't want to lose that. It saved me once when I upgraded to joyride image without a developer key (doh!) and was

Re: Devel Digest, Vol 29, Issue 122

2008-07-19 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Mikus, Can you file a bug on this (dev.laptop.org) and include steps to reproduce and test? Mark the milestone 8.2.0 and priority High (may be triaged higher if it affects a lot of cases). My impression is its a design improvement (e.g. hour glass cursor) we should target for 9.1.0 but we

Re: NAND out of space crash (was Display warnings in sugar (Emiliano Pastorino))

2008-07-19 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, Emiliano has an elegant workaround but crashing the XO on NAND full (to un-recoverable state?) is a heinous bug that affects essentially all users. If someone has the bug ID handy can you send it out and mark it a blocker for 8.2.0 (priority = blocker and keyword includes

Re: experiencing unexpected OLPC behavior from a misplaced click

2008-07-20 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Mikus, I didn't mean to put you in a difficult position. I assume that if the XO doesn't do what the user expects its a bug (maybe a low priority one). No problem if you don't want to file this one. Can you write a brief blurb in the 8.2.0 release notes to preserve the knowledge. Maybe

Re: For review: NAND out of space patch.

2008-07-22 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Chris et al, OK, we're checking how. Hopefully Wad will have some data and I'm trying to get two 656 XOs in the office filled up so I can see the failure case. I still don't understand when and how the script is used. Please give me a little more detail. e.g. - I sit down in the morning,

NAND Full Requirement

2008-07-22 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, Here's the requirement for Uruguay NAND full situation. I need this fixed ASAP. - The XO must always boot up to sugar including allowing access to the journal. That is no matter the fullness of the NAND - If the NAND has less than nnMB (50?) free, warn the user that they are low on

Re: joyride-weekly builds for testing. (Michael Stone)

2008-07-23 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, We could especially use verification of these items: http://dev.laptop.org/query?status=assignedstatus=newstatus=reopenedcol=idcol=summarycol=statuscol=ownercol=typecol=milestonenext_action=qa+signofforder=priority The developers have marked those as ready for QA sign off so any testing

Feedback from deployment lead

2008-07-24 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, I got some good feedback this week on priorities from Carla who has led several of our early installations. Its posted at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/9.1.0#Unadorned_and_unedited_user_feedback I probed for more detail on: Guarantee that everything they work on is saved –and/or backed up–

Re: specifying what services Activities may use

2008-07-30 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Mikus, John, Michael et al, Thanks for testing some activities and noting that many are broken. This will certainly be a user problem! There was a thread on it two weeks ago: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-July/016501.html We didn't close it well. I can't speak effectively for

Re: TuxPaint woes (John Gilmore)

2008-07-30 Thread Greg Smith
Hi John and Michael, Thanks to John for raising these concerns and sticking with us after a frustrating first two experiences. SimCity has good traction in the user base and its a very high priority activity for us. On when the code is stable and frozen enough to do final regression testing

Collaboration Requirements

2008-07-30 Thread Greg Smith
of comments then I'll find a place for it in the wiki (more comments always welcome after that). Collaboration requirements for OLPC XOs and XS Greg Smith July 30, 2008 Background: The concept of Collaboration has been around for a long time. I have used cuseeme, MeetingPlace, NetMeeting, WebEx, IRC, AIM

Re: specifying what services Activities may use

2008-07-31 Thread Greg Smith
is hot! Thanks, Greg S Erik Garrison wrote: On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 12:03:52PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:03:41AM -0400, Greg Smith wrote: Hi Daniel, We need a list of anything that might break an activity. The list of things that have to work in order

Re: Collaboration Requirements

2008-07-31 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, Thanks a lot for all the comments. I tie up a single response and I edit the requirement as needed. Let me know if I don't respond to something you think needs further discussion. I put the updated version in the wiki 9.1.0 Collaboration requirements section:

re: Newer ds-backup-client RPMs for joyride...

2008-07-31 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Guys, I'm starting to think we may have a major feature here which we can talk about in 8.2.0! Is there any more documentation on it? Can someone write an explanation of how this works and what is needed (e.g. XS v0.3) and put that in the 8.2.0 release notes at:

Re: status of 8.1.1 and now 8.1.2 ?

2008-08-01 Thread Greg Smith
Hi S, Thanks for the comments and for checking these pages! Let me try to clarify. As it stands today: *** 8.1.1 = ECO-5 = 708 8.1.1 is almost ready but it needs another review of the release notes (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_Notes/8.1.1) and confirmation of the exact image

Re: activity bar

2008-08-01 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, I believe the definitive documentation is in the release notes: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_Notes/8.2.0#Home_View_Redesign Walter's link has some more detail and information but I don't think its up to date. e.g. it doesn't have the Software Updates GUI in the Sugar Control

Collaboration Bug Triage Notes

2008-08-01 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, Guillaume, Sjoerd, Dafydd, Elliot, Robot101 and I met on IRC today at 10AM US ET. We reviewed the open collaboration bugs list by this query:

Re: Collaboration Requirements

2008-08-04 Thread Greg Smith
://wiki.laptop.org/go/9.1.0#Requirement_Definition_Phase_2 Someone can write up a definition or add other ideas there. Thanks, Greg S Edward Cherlin wrote: On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I wrote up some collaboration requirements to help get us

Re: Collaboration Requirements

2008-08-04 Thread Greg Smith
Did I miss it or do you have a link the definitions you want to use handy? Thanks, Greg S Martin Langhoff wrote: n Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 2:16 AM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First Michael: This feels very similar to an RFC. GS - Its not meant to be an RFC I think Michael was just

Collaboration meeting notes

2008-08-04 Thread Greg Smith
Greg, Gary, Guillaume Desmottes, Sjoerd, Daf, Homunq, Michael met in IRC at 10AM US ET August, 4. Next meeting tomorrow, Tuesday 10AM US ET. freenode.net #olpc-meeting. May need to meet every day at that time until we go through the whole list. Will pick up triage of this list after ID 4045.

Re: [sugar] Question about clipboard service

2008-08-05 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Eben, Interesting spec! Thanks for writing it up. If you want to deliver this in 9.1.0, can you put a link to it on the 9.1.0 page: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/9.1.0 wherever you think it fits, possibly here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/9.1.0#File_Management A few comments and questions: 1 -

Re: Test results on Joyride 2230?

2008-08-05 Thread Greg Smith
, Greg S Gary C Martin wrote: On 5 Aug 2008, at 12:38, Greg Smith wrote: Can we get a show of hands on who downloaded joyride 2230? If you didn't try it yet, instructions for downloading it are available at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Friends_in_testing If you did install it, can you send

Re: [sugar] Question about clipboard service

2008-08-06 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Eben, Thanks for the explanation. You may want to update the Spec with this added detail. One follow question. On this: If 5 kids are collaborating on a science report, they might all go home and do independent work on their subtopic as homework. The next day they come together in a

Thanks for the Joyride test results

2008-08-07 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, Thanks a lot for the great response to the request for test results on 2230. Its super heartening to have so many smart people on the team; ready, willing and able to test these images! As Michael said recently, we're going to nominate another for mass testing as soon as it gets

Re: New Game Activities: COBBLE, Space Tag and Cell Management

2008-08-08 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Mark, I'm interested to hear feedback from people here, but you may be able to get feedback from teachers and kids with a little more work. The most communicative user base is in South America. You can get the most feedback by sending your request to

Re: Motivation behind recent selections of tickets marked blocks?:8.2.0?

2008-08-11 Thread Greg Smith
Hi John, Thanks a lot for looking at and updating all those items! On this: The boot-lock/pretty-boot issue is not marked for blocking 8.2.0 -- it's marked as a question of whether it should block 8.3.0. (Oops, maybe you're calling the next release 9.1.0 -- I'm unclear on the release

Java Support

2008-08-12 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, Do we support Java in our browser? I may have a large opportunity in the Americas dependent on our ability to support their application which I believe requires Java. I did read this page: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Java Is there any news or latest thinking since then? Thanks, Greg S

8.2.0 Status

2008-08-13 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, The following is my personal opinion and does not necessarily represent the consensus of the developers working for 1CC. Nonetheless, I want to keep everyone in the loop and minimize surprises. The final sprint to the finish of 8.2.0 is on! We need to close all design discussions and

Re: Suspend vs Network Traffic - blockers

2008-08-14 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Morgan, You are right about those two being the top ones. I would just add that Simple Wifi http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Networking_scenarios#Simple_WiFi should also be considered. Thanks, Greg S Morgan Collett wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 18:31, Deepak Saxena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On

Tribute To Randy Pausch

2008-08-15 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, I'd like to take a moment to respectfully mark the passing of Randy Pausch. I wasn't aware of him before he died but it looks like his work (http://download.srv.cs.cmu.edu/~pausch/Randy/oldRandyPage.html) was very relevant for our project. It seems like he was one of us (not that I'm

Focus on 8.2.0 blockers

2008-08-15 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, We're still trying to iron out a methodology for the final bug prioritization of 8.2.0. Will update later today if we make any progress. In the mean time, I heard some doubt about what to work on to get 8.2.0 shipped. The top priority items have been marked blocks:8.2.0 in the keyword

Re: Suspend vs Network Traffic - blockers

2008-08-15 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Deepak, Thanks for asking. I believe that infra mode = AP but no school server. My take is that this is a blocker. Until more school servers are deployed in the field, this will be one of our most common deployment models. I believe that you are referring 7972 and I'll leave that in

Re: Suspend vs Network Traffic - blockers

2008-08-15 Thread Greg Smith
, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Deepak, Thanks for asking. I believe that infra mode = AP but no school server. My take is that this is a blocker. Until more school servers are deployed in the field, this will be one of our most common deployment models. I believe

Re: Scratch fails to write to Scratch.activity/Projects

2008-08-27 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Erik, John et al, Scratch is hot in the field right now! Kids are posting Scratch projects out of Uruguay and its been included in the teacher trainings in other countries too. One of the many great things about this application is that it posts directly to the Scratch web site. So its

Blocks? and bug 8090

2008-08-27 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Marco, Reading the Blocks? bugs this morning: http://dev.laptop.org/report/29 I noticed that we can get a lot of them off the list if we can close or defer 8090. Where are we with activity launching? Is it good enough and we have the main issues ironed out? I see mention of Eben's patch

Re: Blocks? and bug 8090

2008-08-27 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Eben, That sounds good to me. I downgraded 8090 to blocks-. 7669 is not marked blocks right now but I believe the code can go in if it is ready. Please get that added ASAP so it makes the next build. Thanks, Greg S ** Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:54:41 -0400 From: Eben

Bug Triage Update

2008-08-28 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, We pushed ahead and triaged bugs up to 8179. The next triage is planned for freenode.net #olpc-meeting tomorrow (Friday) at 1PM US ET. I plan to catch up to the newest bugs at that time. Next up after that we will go over everything marked blocks:8.2.0 and blocks?:8.2.0 one more time

Re: [Server-devel] new package: xs-activation

2008-09-03 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Douglas, Thanks a lot for the write up. Just scanning through the recent activity on this list I see that you have been making an impressive impact since you started! It's making a big difference, keep it up. Can you put this feature on the roadmap: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Roadmap

Re: Write Collaboration - what is known to work / what is, not? (J.M. Maurer)

2008-09-03 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Marc et al, This is a timely discussion as we are trying to figure out and document exactly what write collaboration will be supported for end users in 8.2. The target use cases are: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Use_Cases#Write http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Use_Cases#Uruguay_Teacher_Example

Re: [Techteam] Weekend Report - due today

2008-09-03 Thread Greg Smith
today To: OLPC Development devel@lists.laptop.org, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 8:52 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Follow up on Cmap tools Looks quite interesting, where can we

Re: Freeze?

2008-09-03 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Marco et al, I think you are doing the right thing by proceeding as usual until we get the word that a harder freeze is in place. FYI for all on triage. We are caught up as of yesterday at 3PM US ET. We will do a triage everyday at 1PM US ET on IRC (freenode.net #olpc-meeting channel). We

Re: Cmap tools (was [Techteam] Weekend Report - due today)

2008-09-03 Thread Greg Smith
:36, Greg Smith wrote: Cmap tools (http://cmap.ihmc.us/) is a client server application that appears to have pretty good traction in schools, mostly in South America. We have a request to make it work on the XO. I exchanged some e-mails with Alberto Canas (con enye) who is the main application

Greg Smith's Weekly Report

2008-09-05 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, We write a weekly report for the OLPC management and employees. In order to keep the community involved, motivated and knowledgeable, Michael suggested we share it with this list. Its FYI but I'm open to help, comments or suggestions, as always. Thanks, Greg S ** Status

Re: [sugar] Question about clipboard service

2008-09-05 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Eben, I'm resurrecting an old thread here. BTW if you have any more specs or design proposals to share, now is a good time to consider them for 9.1-sugar .84 so send them out. I see where you are going with this work flow for kids writing on their own then coming together. It could work

Re: Stability and Memory Pressure in 8.2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

2008-09-09 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, I recommend build 708 as the baseline. Thanks, Greg S ** Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 11:34:50 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Stability and Memory Pressure in 8.2 To: devel@lists.laptop.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain;

Re: recognizing a previous connection

2008-09-11 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Pia, Robert, Mikus and team, I'm not sure this dictates the right design, but I am aware of several sites planning to use multiple access points. One in the US will have ~40! and I believe that another in the US (NYC) has many APs and a robust network. One school in Rwanda has recently

re: 8.2.0 Release Criteria ECO Documentation (Michael Stone)

2008-09-11 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Michael, I thought of one item we missed in making this checklist. We need to pick the set of activities which we will include in the factory G1G1 image. Can you add that to the check list so we are fully ready to produce this image when its done? If that decision can come out of synch

Re: 8.2.0 Release Criteria ECO Documentation (Michael Stone)

2008-09-12 Thread Greg Smith
Derndorfer wrote: On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 11:40 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi Michael, I thought of one item we missed in making this checklist. We need to pick the set of activities which we will include in the factory G1G1 image. Can you add that to the check list so we

Re: recognizing a previous connection

2008-09-12 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, I can't get to that link but I have another which you may find interesting. See: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:Site_Surveys-Example-ODP.odp This is a presentation on what is a site survey and an example of one done for a school in Colombia. I believe the survey and technical info

Greg's Weekly report

2008-09-12 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, Here's my weekly report below. BTW I would love help on any of these items. I am going to be squeezed by three releases all needing attention at the same time: - 8.2 finalize and launch - 8.2.1 kick off - 9.1 Strategy, process and top feature set definition I can find plenty of

Re: mechanisms tied to mesh: under a tree collab

2008-09-17 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, Very interesting thread on the wireless, mesh and collaboration technologies. I think part of the discussion is a debate about what is the best technology to achieve our goals. In terms of what the goals are, I wrote a definition of what I think our collaboration needs to do at:

G1G1v2 Activities

2008-09-17 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, We need to pick the activities we ship with 8.2 when its manufactured for G1G1 users. Management needs to sign off on the final list as early as next week. Its not definitive but we want your input on what we should include. What do you think are the most important activities to

Re: [Server-devel] [GENERAL] Pg 8.3 tuning recommendations for embedded low-memory device (for OLPC :-) )

2008-09-19 Thread Greg Smith
size of queries could be handled by the system, it's not a memory allocation. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD ___ Server-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel

Greg S Weekly Report

2008-09-19 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, Here's my weekly report. They called for the report on Thursday AM this week so it doesn't cover work since then. Thanks, Greg S Status against last weeks goals: 1 - Hound engineers to close all 8.2.0 blockers (see http://dev.laptop.org/report/28) and get a firm date

G1G1 Pre-installed Activities Request for Help Testing

2008-09-19 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, Thanks a lot for the input on which activities to ship! Here is the list of activities I will to management as my suggestion on what we ship. Please help test these! See the end of the e-mail for instructions. The list I recommend is essentially the G1G1 activities (kudos to the team

Test Results Needed for Activities in 8.2

2008-09-22 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, Thanks for all the input activities to ship with G1G1. However, I didn't get a lot of test results. The most important decision criteria is evidence that an activity is known to work well (preferably with 8.2-760 or later). I put all the main activities mentioned in Sameer's Google

Re: Test Results Needed for Activities in 8.2

2008-09-23 Thread Greg Smith
. I will work on setting a milestone for choosing and testing activities in the next release. Thanks, Greg S Greg Smith wrote: Hi All, Thanks for all the input activities to ship with G1G1. However, I didn't get a lot of test results. The most important decision criteria is evidence

Re: 8.2.0 deployments

2008-09-24 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Bert, Thanks for asking. Its been a moving target, as a lot depends on the release date and the changing status of the various deployments. It also depends on the release date for 8.2.1. That said, I definitely should have posted that sooner! In short the target customers who are likely to

Re: 8.2.0 deployments

2008-09-24 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Bert, Just checked on Turkey and we do not expect that they will image and deploy before the end of CY 08. That could change at any time but right now its not on the near term radar. Thanks, Greg S Bert Freudenberg wrote: Hi, is there a list for who is anticipated to be using 8.2.0

Greg Smith's Weekly Report

2008-09-29 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, Here's my weekly report for week ending 9/26. *** Status against last week goals: 1 - Hound engineers to close all 8.2.0 blockers (see http://dev.laptop.org/report/28) and get a firm date for the Release Candidate build. Triage bugs and keep the release on schedule.

Re: Flash tests

2008-09-30 Thread Greg Smith
somewhere we can ask the Sur list to try it out. We may need an explanation of how to try it with 8.2 release candidate, 708 (Peru image) and 656 (Uruguay image) if the instructions are different for each. Thanks, Greg S Tomeu Vizoso wrote: 2008/9/16 Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi All

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