GSM/CDMA Modems support

2009-11-16 Thread Martin Abente
Hello everyone, Is there any chance to include CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_OPTION module in the kernel for the F11-XO{1,1.5} builds? In our region, GSM/CDMA connections are very popular so it would be nice to have support for them (for multiple purposes: end-user usage, support team, etc.). Thanks, Martin

GSM/CDMA Modems support (part II)

2009-11-25 Thread Martin Abente
already wrote a prototype app for this that is actually working on the Gnome environment [1]. What do you guys think? Saludos, Martin Abente (tch) [1] http://trac.paraguayeduca.org/browser/nmbridge ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSM/CDMA Modems support (part II)

2009-11-25 Thread Martin Abente
On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:13:41 +0100, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Martin Abente mabe...@paraguayeduca.org wrote: As I mentioned in my last email to devel@lists.laptop.org, there is a real need for a GSM/CDMA usb modem support in our region

Re: re active the network mesh when suspends the system

2010-12-16 Thread Martin Abente
Me and esteban just found out that, if you disable the mesh using *echo 0 /sys/class/net/eth0/lbs_mesh NM crashes.. Martin, do you know any other way to disable it? * On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Esteban

Re: re active the network mesh when suspends the system

2010-12-17 Thread Martin Abente
I tried this but did not work either ;/ Apparently the mesh re-activation happens after this script is being run. On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org wrote: martin wrote: On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Esteban Arias ear...@plan.ceibal.edu.uy wrote: I have the

Re: re active the network mesh when suspends the system

2010-12-17 Thread Martin Abente
I have done a few test in 3 different builds, the tests are: A. Killing the mesh with echo 0 /sys/class/net/eth0/lbs_mesh, then suspend and then check if the mesh is re-activated after resume. B. While the mesh is active, add a script in postresume.d with the same line to kill the mesh (granting

Re: re active the network mesh when suspends the system

2010-12-17 Thread Martin Abente
No, i am not, all those builds comes with config_MESH_DURING_SUSPEND=no by default. On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote: I have done a few test in 3 different

Re: re active the network mesh when suspends the system

2010-12-17 Thread Martin Abente
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote: No, i am not, all those builds comes with config_MESH_DURING_SUSPEND=no by default. From what I understood from your

Re: re active the network mesh when suspends the system

2010-12-17 Thread Martin Abente
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote: From what I understood from your earlier emails, you do not want to use mesh, and you do not want to keep the libertas device

Re: re active the network mesh when suspends the system

2010-12-20 Thread Martin Abente
: On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote: I wrote this script that is a little bit better than just waiting N seconds, and it seems to work fine: ... great! But I like Martin's idea better, just not sure how to make it work atm

Re: USB Ethernet test

2011-01-11 Thread Martin Abente
After a quick test, with the olpc 802 build and all the newer ones (including dextrose), I saw that only on the 802 build, Network Manager starts autoip after the dhcpclient has given up. Researching on the web, I found this [1]. Basically autoip was causing confusion when making the users to

Re: XO-1 developer key does not work

2011-03-14 Thread Martin Abente
If your laptops contain your deployment keys, I would recommend using this [1] so you can easily generate and manage your activations in situations like this :). 1. http://wiki.paraguayeduca.org/index.php/Yaas_documentation kind regards, tch On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Sridhar Dhanapalan

Re: FW: [Server-devel] [Sugar-devel] Load testing the XS school server

2011-03-17 Thread Martin Abente
Hello Brian, Are you planning to do devel on inventario or you just want to use it? kind regards, tch On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 5:50 PM, HALL,Brian C brian.hal...@uwimona.edu.jm wrote: Thank you very much. Much appreciated. Iam now at the section about Compile gui: cd

Re: [Sugar-devel] FUSE for Journal?

2011-06-17 Thread Martin Abente
Actually, I have been playing with it in the last 2 days. What I am basically doing (as a proof on concept) is a xmlrpc-FUSE filesystem. Since FUSE provides a native FS interaction there is nothing special to be done, _it works_ (I mean it literally) just as a external storage device. What is

Re: [Sugar-devel] FUSE for Journal?

2011-06-17 Thread Martin Abente
: There are other older intents: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2009-June/014815.html http://www.mail-archive.com/sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org/msg14612.html Gonzalo On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, I have been

Re: crear una imagen personalizable sin gnome

2011-07-04 Thread Martin Abente
just remove the gnome package from your examples/ .ini file in the os-builder env. On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Kevin Mauricio Benavides Castro webmaster.ac@gmail.com wrote: Hello like they are all those of the list I am carrying out some tests with XO and the sugar versions, which I

Re: [Sugar-devel] Wanting to know a bit of (NetworkManager) workflow upon resume-from-suspend

2012-05-02 Thread Martin Abente
I think (guessing by the responses) the original problem here is that, if you disable the mesh AFTER NM has taken the device, NM crashes. This a regression bug, considering that this didn't happened in fedora-11 based builds. So the solution here is to find another place to place the script,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Wanting to know a bit of (NetworkManager) workflow upon resume-from-suspend

2012-05-02 Thread Martin Abente
wrote: On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 4:07 AM, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote: I think (guessing by the responses) the original problem here is that, if you disable the mesh AFTER NM has taken the device, NM crashes. This a regression bug, considering that this didn't happened

Re: [Sugar-devel] Wanting to know a bit of (NetworkManager) workflow upon resume-from-suspend

2012-05-04 Thread Martin Abente
Did you remove the disable mesh.script for the testing? El may 4, 2012 10:39 p.m., Ajay Garg ajaygargn...@gmail.com escribió: On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 2:03 AM, Sascha Silbe si...@activitycentral.com wrote: Ajay Garg ajaygargn...@gmail.com writes: [...] b) Ensured that

Re: [Sugar-devel] Wanting to know a bit of (NetworkManager) workflow upon resume-from-suspend

2012-05-05 Thread Martin Abente
PM, Ajay Garg ajaygargn...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 3:42 AM, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote: Did you remove the disable mesh.script for the testing? Yes. Both from :: a) my custom added in '/etc/init.d/NetworkManager'. b) '/etc/powed/postresume.d

Re: OLPC build creation failed

2012-09-13 Thread Martin Abente
Hi Martin: On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Martin Langhoff mar...@laptop.org wrote: On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 8:51 PM, John Gilmore g...@toad.com wrote: Instead, you should fix OOB so it works to cross-compile. Unfortunately, OOB is just a nice wrapper around anaconda and rpm. You cannot

Re: OLPC build creation failed

2012-09-13 Thread Martin Abente
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Martin Langhoff mar...@laptop.org wrote: On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 9:53 PM, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote: Have anyone actually tried to emulate? Not that I know. But I would expect it to be ~10x slower than on an XO-1.75. And better hw

Re: OLPC build creation failed

2012-09-13 Thread Martin Abente
Thats not so bad (relatively). Thanks for the info Jerry! On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 11:13 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: On Thu, 2012-09-13 at 22:12 -0400, Martin Abente wrote: On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Martin Langhoff mar...@laptop.org wrote: On Thu, Sep 13, 2012

Re: Changing track

2013-03-07 Thread Martin Abente
Las discusiones siempre fueron muy interesantes :) La mejor de las suertes tocayo. Espero encuentres el balance que buscas! On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Martin Langhoff mar...@laptop.org wrote: Hello devel! I haven't been posting here often enough. After a year of enormous effort, we are

Re: Kernel RPMs now auto-install to boot partition

2013-03-22 Thread Martin Abente
Great! :D On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Anish Mangal an...@sugarlabs.org wrote: awesome! On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org wrote: wow. somehow i didn't think this would ever happen. thank you!! paul daniel wrote: Hi, Found some time to

Re: [IAEP] Helping test Sugar 0.100

2013-09-28 Thread Martin Abente
If anyone is interested in testing web services, here [1] is a very simple (yet functional) example :) Instructions for using WS can be found here [2]. refs: 1. https://github.com/tchx84/sugar-gpaste/ 2. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/WebServices On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Gonzalo Odiard

Re: [Sugar-devel] The quest for data

2014-01-03 Thread Martin Abente
Hello Sameer, I totally agree we should join efforts for a visualization solution, but, personally, my main concern is still a basic one: what are the important questions we should be asking? And how can we answer these questions reliably? Even though most of us have experience in deployments

Re: [Sugar-devel] The quest for data

2014-01-10 Thread Martin Abente
+1 On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Martin Dluhos mar...@gnu.org wrote: On 10.1.2014 11:55, Anish Mangal wrote: Sorry for being late to the party. Clearly the quest for data is a commonly shared one, with many different approaches, questions, and reporting/results. One of the already

Re: [Sugar-devel] How to change onscreen keyboard layout.

2014-04-29 Thread Martin Abente
As James mentioned, the first option is to provide a ne.xml layout file in /usr/share/maliit/plugins/languages/ (ie., you could use es_us.xml as model, or copy it entirely). The second option, IIRC, is to force maliit to always use a specific layout (from the ones that are available) with a

Re: XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [Sugar-devel] [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-07 Thread Martin Abente
Great! I will try your oob branch for 1.5, I do have XOs 1.5 for testing :) On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 May 2014 01:44, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 04:24:39PM +0200, Daniel Narvaez wrote: [...] And with

Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-08 Thread Martin Abente
...@gmail.comwrote: As an update, I have patched xorg-x11-drv-dove and built rpms for it http://shell.sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/f20-xo1.75/ Now building an image with those. On 7 May 2014 15:18, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.comwrote: Great! I will try your oob branch

Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-10 Thread Martin Abente
. On 7 May 2014 15:18, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.comwrote: Great! I will try your oob branch for 1.5, I do have XOs 1.5 for testing :) On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote: On 7 May 2014 01:44, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote

Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-11 Thread Martin Abente
installed (I probably got something wrong in the ini). Testing on the xo1.5 one would be welcome, I'm curious if firmware solves the startup freeze. On 11 May 2014 00:24, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.comwrote: great!! Let me know when you have an image with this! On Sat, May 10

Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-11 Thread Martin Abente
on /newrun failed: invalid argument mount used greatest stack depth 6752 bytes left. On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.orgwrote: Downloading... On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote: Downloading 10001xx1.zd

Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-11 Thread Martin Abente
https://github.com/dnarvaez/xugar On 11 May 2014 20:49, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: This could be a change I made. I will investigate and let you know. On 11 May 2014 20:31, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.comwrote: Hey Daniel, Could you check

Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-12 Thread Martin Abente
: This could be a change I made. I will investigate and let you know. On 11 May 2014 20:31, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.comwrote: Hey Daniel, Could you check if this is correct? $md5sum 10001xx1.zd $0cc8f3f71d636c8dc4464ffb8bf1847b 10001xx1.zd Tested with 2 different XOs 1.5

Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-12 Thread Martin Abente
Downloading! On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: xo4 image finally built (untested yet) http://bender.sugarlabs.org:3000/images/xo4/2/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-13 Thread Martin Abente
Sent a PR with some changes related to missing CP sections and gsettings [1]. Refs: 1. https://github.com/dnarvaez/olpc-os-builder/pull/1 On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.orgwrote: Tested here, Sugar starts ok. Wifi ok. Downloaded and tried a few activities.

Building a Fedora 20 image

2014-09-02 Thread Martin Abente
Hello James, I have been using Daniel Narvaez OOB [1,2], but I want to sync with your OOB repository [3], and I have two questions: 1. Is there a frozen fc20 repository already? 2. Where are the .ini files you are using to create the images for Fedora 20? Thanks in advance! Martin. Refs: 1.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar 0.100 features on Sugar 0.102 build

2014-09-02 Thread Martin Abente
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 8:47 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: G'day German, Perhaps Gonzalo was asking, in your two builds, which version of the sugar- package was chosen by olpc-os-builder? sudo rpm -q sugar Gonzalo's question seems to suggest that the dependency on

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2014-09-03 Thread Martin Abente
Hello James, As you know, I have been building f20 + S0.102 images, using a XO4 with dnarvaez f20 image as building machine. Also, I am working on top your OOB branch. I was able to make these builds without much trouble, until today, when I started to get a glibc errors (please see attached

Re: Telepathy Salut on Sugar 0.102 on Fedora 20 almost works

2014-09-16 Thread Martin Abente
Hello James, I included the new kernel (and reverted that commit) and now collaboration works even between fc20+S0.102 and F18+S0.100. I tested it using a wifi network (with DHCP enabled) and Chat activity. Really awesome work James! On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 3:53 AM, James Cameron

Re: Telepathy Salut on Sugar 0.102 on Fedora 20 almost works

2014-09-16 Thread Martin Abente
connect to that ad-hoc network. The second XO ip address does not match the first one's network. But when I manually configure it, then buddy icons appears and collaboration works... On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote: Hello James, I included

Re: Telepathy Salut on Sugar 0.102 on Fedora 20 almost works

2014-09-17 Thread Martin Abente
Hello James, On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 5:18 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 02:14:56PM -0400, Martin Abente wrote: James, Gonzalo, Regarding the IBSS/Ad-hoc scenario, if I set the address manually, collaborations work just fine. So this must be related

Re: Telepathy Salut on Sugar 0.102 on Fedora 20 almost works

2014-09-17 Thread Martin Abente
is logged until I re-connect to an access point or modified ad-hoc. So basically, even if the process keeps running the issue persist... On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote: Hello James, On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 5:18 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org

Re: [Announcement] Sugarizer v0.5 is available for your device

2014-10-17 Thread Martin Abente
Great stuff!!! On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Lionel Laské lio...@olpc-france.org wrote: Hi all, I'm proud to announce the fifth version (0.5) of Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar for any device. http://sugarizer.org I've decided to put the focus on this version on three majors

Re: Community OS 14.1.0 Version 1

2015-02-13 Thread Martin Abente
Hello Samuel, Thanks for your work :) On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Samuel Greenfeld sam...@greenfeld.org wrote: I spent a few hours this past weekend looking into if third-party XO OS builds were still possible. The result is a set of unsigned XO laptop images for XO-1/1.5/1.75/4 I

Re: Announcing OLPC OS 13.2.3 for XO-1.75 and XO-4

2015-03-18 Thread Martin Abente
Downloading, many thanks James! On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 11:10 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: G'day, We're pleased to announce the release of OLPC OS 13.2.3 for XO-1.75 and XO-4. It is Sugar 0.104 on Fedora 18, with hardware enablement for ongoing manufacturing and spare parts.

Re: Community OS 14.1.0 Version 2

2015-03-06 Thread Martin Abente
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 8:55 AM, Samuel Greenfeld sam...@greenfeld.org wrote: I have updated the XO-1/1.5/1.75/4 images I previously made. The updated images can be found at http://www.greenfeld.org/xo/community/builds/14.1.0/build_2/ Again, these images are not supported by OLPC. It would

Re: Simple stuff I don't know

2015-09-16 Thread Martin Abente
Hey George, You could: 1) modify the sugar shell to launch it... ie., doing something similar to what was done for the welcome activity. Or... 2) use the sugar services stuff to launch the activity without having to modify sugar. I would go for the second option, and simply write a _very_

Re: [Sugar-devel] [UKids] [Announcement] Sugarizer v0.7 is available for your device

2016-01-12 Thread Martin Abente
GREAT :) On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 10:21 AM, Tim Moody wrote: > congratulations. > > > > *From:* unleashk...@googlegroups.com [mailto:unleashk...@googlegroups.com] > *On Behalf Of *Lionel Laské > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 12, 2016 8:07 AM > *To:* Sugar-dev Devel

Re: [Server-devel] [Sugar-devel] Paraguay's Inventario download link

2011-03-17 Thread Martin Abente
http://wiki.paraguayeduca.org/index.php/Get_Inventory_System Saludos, tch On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 7:19 PM, HALL,Brian C brian.hal...@uwimona.edu.jm wrote: Where can I find the link to download and install

Re: [Server-devel] [IAEP] copy files to/from server

2011-05-17 Thread Martin Abente
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 4:47 PM, moku...@earthtreasury.org wrote: On Tue, May 17, 2011 3:42 am, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: How can XOs copy files to/from their Journal with a server? We want the ability for teachers to easily make files available for children, and for children to upload to the

Re: [Server-devel] [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] copy files to/from server

2011-05-23 Thread Martin Abente
be the best way to get this working on Sugar? You don't have a lot of time it seems. I'd implement it on top of gnome VFS of in pure Python. In both cases, I'd make it look like another disk from the Journal (as an initial implementation at least). I'd say talk with Martin Abente, he's looking

Re: [Server-devel] [Sugar-devel] offline a.sl.o

2012-11-30 Thread Martin Abente
@sameer: What features (exactly) do you need from ASLO? IE, in Paraguay we just needed to provide a static repo of activities to feed the sugar updater. And we used this http://git.sugarlabs.org/dx-activities-server On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:46 PM, Dr. Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.com

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] sugarstats and xovis

2014-06-27 Thread Martin Abente
, 2014 at 5:09 AM, Martin Dluhos mar...@gnu.org wrote: On 06/24/2014 07:20 PM, Sameer Verma wrote: On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Sameer, The harvest-client serializes (using json) a subset of journal-objects metadata

Yum random crashes in XO4 f20 images

2014-09-08 Thread Martin Abente Lahaye
Hello Peter, I am have been building a Fedora 20 image for the XO4, and I am seeing memory corruption problems while running yum in these images (please check the logs [1,2]). To give you some context, we are using olpc-os-builder (master [3]) with fc20 repositories plus a few hand-crafted

Re: Yum random crashes in XO4 f20 images

2014-09-09 Thread Martin Abente Lahaye
Thanks for the quick reponse, On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Martin, I am have been building a Fedora 20 image for the XO4, and I am seeing memory corruption problems while running yum in these images (please check the logs [1,2]). The

Re: Testing 40002au4.zd image on XO-4

2014-09-14 Thread Martin Abente Lahaye
Hi, Thanks for the report. On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 9:38 PM, tkk...@nurturingasia.com wrote: Maybe this information is already known. Played around and found the following: 1. Piano and Write not working. Gonzalo already fixed that one (also with music painter) :) 2. Browse will work

Re: Testing 40002au4.zd image on XO-4

2014-09-15 Thread Martin Abente Lahaye
Hello James, I picked your fixes for avahi and dconf, thanks. I have a patched GTK3 package [1], that includes dsd's fix [2] for Gtk.Clipboard.set_with_data pyhon bindings [3,4]. This fixes sugar issue when copying journal entries to the clipboard. Refs: 1.

Re: XOs cannot act as WiFi access points

2015-03-17 Thread Martin Abente Lahaye
I remember adding a share-your-3G-connection feature to Sugar/Dextrose a few years ago, but not sure if this is what you are asking for [1]. It worked well in small scale. Refs: 1. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/3G_Support/Share On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:06 PM, Adam Holt h...@laptop.org