Battery capacity in screen hardstatus line hint

2008-01-05 Thread Martin Dengler
Hi, In case this is of use to anyone, I've put the battery capacity in my xo screen instance's hardstatus line with this tiny script screenrc change: -- /home/olpc/bin/olpc_screen_status.sh #!/bin/bash # Author: Martin Dengler [EMAIL PROTECTED] # idea from http://www.mail-archive.com

q2d08A firmware anywhere?

2008-01-13 Thread Martin Dengler
Hi, I'm seeing plenty of suspend/resume problems with my G1G1 C2 laptop (joyride-1532 with firmware q2d08), and I'd like to try the latest firmware before I file any proper trac bug reports[1]. I can't seem to find where to download it on the wiki (though it's been mentioned in the testing

Re: xo root passwd

2008-01-14 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 07:42:55AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, I did reflash my OLPC NAND into joyride 1501, and afterward rebooted it. When I did login as root, it asked me password. Can you kindly let me know what the password is? root's locked -- log in as olpc and

Re: OLPC promotes terrorism

2008-01-24 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 12:52:56AM -0500, Bernardo Innocenti wrote: http://erratasec.blogspot.com/2008/01/why-olpc-promotes-terrorism.html Didn't you know that Python was a communist language? If any chip maker was paying for this bullshit, they'd be really wasting their money!

Update.1 690 poweroffs?

2008-01-28 Thread Martin Dengler
I hate to trac something so vague, but please let me know if this better belongs there: I've been running update.1 build 690 on my G1G1 C2 for about 4 days now, and on 2 of the 3 nights (and one afternoon) since I installed it I've found it powered off. It's been connected to AC all three times,

Re: Update.1 690 poweroffs?

2008-01-29 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 02:25:18PM -0500, Kim Quirk wrote: Thanks for your info, Martin. Are you on Trac? Can you write up a bug for follow up? (Or if someone knows of a trac item that Martin can use to add his notes; that would be great). I didn't find a trac item that seemed like mine so I

Re: Update.1 690 poweroffs?

2008-01-29 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 02:43:58PM -0500, Richard A. Smith wrote: Martin Dengler wrote: and each time the power button did no good - I had to take out the battery and disconnet the power to start it up. Today the battery light was on (green) but no other lights were on (the other two times

olpc-logbat data collector(s)? (was: Re: OLPC News 2008-02-02)

2008-02-03 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sat, Feb 02, 2008 at 01:30:19PM -0500, Walter Bender wrote: 6. Power profiling: . . . We can use much more data—please run the script yourself and send us the CSV files that it generates. I've made a load of logs available at http://www.xades.com/proj/xo_logbat . I'm not sure to whom I

Re: How to create a new MIME type for a Sugar activity?

2008-02-11 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 04:33:17PM +0100, Karl wrote: Albert Cahalan wrote: Whatever you invent, Etoys will claim it in the next release. It does not matter if Etoys has any ability to handle the data. I'm half serious too, as is clear to anybody who has looked at the list of MIME

Re: How to create a new MIME type for a Sugar activity?

2008-02-12 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 07:17:28PM -0500, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: Personally, I agree with just about everything John Gilmore said in his Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:59:49 -0800 message to Bert Freudenberg. I frequently ftp materiel to my XO. Wanted to put one of these into the datastore

Re: Updates from Nepal's Pilot Schools

2008-03-09 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 05:29:50PM +0545, Bryan Berry wrote: David, good idea. there are only about 6 light bulbs at the Bishwamitra (smaller school) and less than 5 at Bashuki the larger school. I will have to ask Ram (our power guy) about what's available on the local market.

Re: [sugar] Mini-Conference Proposal: Toolbars Tabs (or lack thereof)

2008-03-25 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 04:41:58PM +, Gary C Martin wrote: The core component of the new approach is the introduction of the toolbar button, which you can see mockups of at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Designs/Toolbars. There is no text with the mockups yet, but I'll add it later. In

No disassemble #5

2008-03-29 Thread Martin Dengler
Does anybody have strong feelings about encouraging/discouraging disassembly? I was downloading the Disassembly page on the wiki to my XO in case I needed the instructions while disconnected (default library addendum idea?) and I noticed there were two very prominent (right under the title),

Re: [PATCH] CLI Interface to the Sugar Datastore

2008-03-31 Thread Martin Dengler
in supporting that could probably chime in with a +1 or something, which might help move that process along. Regards, Michael Martin From 07cb9c739ccca7af699a268e8475e7b2f63e7f72 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Martin Dengler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 05:24:00 + Subject: [PATCH

joyride-1820: no space left on device

2008-04-02 Thread Martin Dengler
Hi, I'm getting no space left on device: '/home/upserv/builds/[EMAIL PROTECTED][1] from olpc-update when trying to run olpc-update joyride-1820. I've been getting a different error when trying joyride-1819 ('unknown module build-joyride-1819')[2], but now it's the same (just changed as I was

Re: [sugar] new sugar work into joyride

2008-04-03 Thread Martin Dengler
The new Home frame design is cool. On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 10:07:21PM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote: it took a while more to realize that if I clicked within the Home view (as opposed to on the Frame) on the icon of an already-running Activity, a NEW INSTANCE of that Activity would be

Re: [PATCH] Remove Ctrl-O (the letter oh) keyboard shortcut to fix #4646

2008-04-07 Thread Martin Dengler
) that you wouldn't be sad if Control-O went away. Do you feel you can approve this patch? Martin On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 09:22:18PM +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: Eben are you ok with this? On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 8:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Martin Dengler [EMAIL PROTECTED

Battery life estimation considered impossible?

2008-04-14 Thread Martin Dengler
In the course of updating[1] sugar/view/devices/battery.py to look like Eben's new design[2], I wasn't able to come up with a satisfactory way to calculate remaining battery life. Can anyone opine as to whether it's possible/feasible right now to estimate number of minutes of battery power

Re: Battery life estimation considered impossible?

2008-04-15 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:35:39AM +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 5:06 AM, Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Can anyone opine as to whether it's possible/feasible right now to estimate number of minutes of battery power remaining? You could

Re: Activity Launch Notification

2008-04-15 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:18:19PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: since there is a key on the keyboard dedicated to controlling the frame, I have been very happy with just disabling the automatic popup completely. Ditto, for the same reason. David Lang Martin pgpiYluTruEp8.pgp

[PATCH] support battery-charge-state-dependent battery frame icon

2008-04-16 Thread Martin Dengler
Support battery-charge-state-dependent battery frame icon and upgrade to consistency with battery icon design from http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Designs/Frame#06. Controversially (or so I think), this commit includes a very naive algorithm to calculate battery time/life remaining, as a principled

Re: [PATCH] support battery-charge-state-dependent battery frame icon

2008-04-17 Thread Martin Dengler
[apart from some feedback on your first two comments I can get a new patch out later today -- so can you focus on those sections please?] On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:00:48AM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote: So, I'm not the authoritative source on this, but I'll toss in my thoughts... +lvl

Re: New Planning Thoughts draft.

2008-04-17 Thread Martin Dengler
Peanut gallery comments... On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:02:02PM +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Available at a wiki near you: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Plan_of_Record-2008/Draft_2 Making quick progresses, yay!

Re: Battery life estimation considered impossible?

2008-04-17 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 06:40:21AM -0400, Richard A. Smith wrote: Martin Dengler wrote: 3. minutes_left = battery_capacity_pct / 0.59. [. . .] but of course the approach is fatally flawed. Sorry I'm a bit late to respond. My attention has been elsewhere. It was well worth the (very

Re: [PATCH] support battery-charge-state-dependent battery frame icon

2008-04-17 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 08:52:16AM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote: [many things] Thanks for the quick reply. All your suggestions / feedback are clear and I'll implement asap and send a new patch. - Eben Martin pgpmBQ3ACMZ2U.pgp Description: PGP signature

[PATCH] support battery-charge-state-dependent battery frame icon

2008-04-17 Thread Martin Dengler
Support battery-charge-state-dependent battery frame icon and upgrade to consistency with battery icon design from http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Designs/Frame#06. Controversially (or so I think), this commit includes a very naive algorithm to calculate battery time/life remaining, as a principled

Re: fun and games with trying to un-suspend

2008-04-22 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:20:49AM -0400, Chris Ball wrote: Hi, I've had these symptoms often over the course of the last two months, with various update.1 / joyride builds. This is http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6590. I'll put more effort into reproducing it here. Thanks -- the

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

2008-04-22 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 03:52:35PM -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: I always forget that when I reply the message does not go to the list. On the support-gang list there is quite a bit of discouragement over Walter leaving because Negroponte has decided to go the XP route with the XO. And he is in

Re: Auto backlight management?

2008-04-25 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 11:05:10AM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 25.04.2008, at 10:46, Martin Dengler wrote: On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 12:07:12AM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote: It's clear to me that it would be quite useful to have a bright backlight AND black white mode for reading a book

Re: Auto backlight management?

2008-04-25 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 09:47:29AM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 10:54:34PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my machines are out on loan right now. is this monochrome mode the high-res mode, or is this still using multiple screen pixels per display pixel like color

Re: Auto backlight management?

2008-04-26 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 06:15:22AM -0400, Wade Brainerd wrote: On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 11:46 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have discussed with Chris implementing a hackish low-power mode to demonstrate optimal power management on the Gen 1 hardware to illustrate the

Re: 15 computer science collegians looking for a project

2008-04-30 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:18:24AM +0200, NoiseEHC wrote: http://homepages.cwi.nl/~manegold/Calibrator/ Could you run on your machine and share the results? Currently I do not have access to an XO. Probably not the results you were looking for: bash-3.2$ echo `cat /ofw/ec-name` PQ2D13

Re: Battery Life Estimation: First try

2008-05-02 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 04:24:10PM -0400, Richard A. Smith wrote: The script is available at: http://dev.laptop.org/~rsmith/olpc-bat_ttl I've hacked[1] my {model,view}/.../battery.py to use your TTL_INST for showing the user the time remaining. Thanks for putting this together. Martin 1.

Re: CIPA done

2008-05-08 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 04:06:03PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: [. . .] It is sufficient if we clearly obey the law, and don't seek to go beyond it. Any lawyers around? go beyond implies interpret -- the only safe course is to comply exactly and minimally, IMHO. Martin pgpDcz8IyqO41.pgp

Re: [Olpc-open] First week at Nepal's Test Schools

2008-05-09 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 08:35:27AM +, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: 2. On-screen volume indicator that shows what level the volume is at when the volume buttons are pressed. Martin Dengler has been kindly offering patches to add something similar to the Frame. Eben, can you comment

[OT] The law (was Re: CIPA done)

2008-05-10 Thread Martin Dengler
We're OT here now. On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 10:41:20PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Martin Dengler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 04:06:03PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: [. . .] It is sufficient if we clearly obey the law, and don't seek

Re: OLPC: Open Organized Transparent

2008-05-27 Thread Martin Dengler
[sorry to resurrect] On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 07:53:11PM -0400, Garrett Goebel wrote: Going back through the archives, I have to admit that as often as not the smack talk came from someone without a laptop.org email address. But here are some examples of offensive, dismissive, and unanswered

Re: Browse v86 rainbow issue on update 1-706?

2008-05-28 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 03:42:55AM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: On 28 May 2008, at 18:55, Martin Dengler wrote: Is this rainbow racing with X, or is that in joyride only? Sorry, not sure. I'm back on joyride now and Browse seems quite happy there. I was away from the web earlier

Re: Code of Conduct (was Re: Bitfrost and dual-boot)

2008-05-30 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:04:57AM +0200, Morgan Collett wrote: [+cc: Mako] Selective quoting: On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 7:15 AM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're on crack, Albert. ... Albert, I'm not talking to you any more until you start making sense. As a side

Re: Trac: release management

2008-06-05 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 04:25:53PM -0400, Garrett Goebel wrote: ... I'll write you a query which will give all the non-closed tickets which have never been changed by the owner. Are you hoping to get OLPC management more justification for hiring more people from this metric? Or convince

Project management theory and application (was: Re: Trac: release management)

2008-06-13 Thread Martin Dengler
Garrett, Thanks for your time and thoughts. I'm taking my response off-list, since it's about project, not release managment (though of course there is a close relationship), I know it's just developing the arguments I made already, and not going to convince anyone (not meaning just you) to

Re: Trac: release management

2008-06-13 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 11:37:32AM -0700, Wade Brainerd wrote: Hello, I agree wholeheartedly that ticket triage and statistical analysis is a worthwhile effort, so I think I support what Garrett is talking about. To clarify, I advocated ticket triage in my response and I attempted to make

Communicate the changing of some sugar keyboard shortcuts?

2008-06-16 Thread Martin Dengler
Hi and apologies for the wide distribution of this email... Some Sugar keyboard shortcuts are changing due to trac ticket #4646[1]. They're not in joyride yet but will get there soon (I imagine). You can view the changes and the discussion leading up to them in the [EMAIL PROTECTED] email trail

Re: #7248 NORM 8.2.0 (: Speaker device has inconsistent behavior

2008-07-03 Thread Martin Dengler
It's broken in joyride because my proposed fixes are still just proposed patches. I'll add this bug (#7248) as a blocker for your new bug (#7420) but I think it (#7420) is a dupe/subset of this (consider Eben's point #4). Notwithstanding, Your third paragrah/point in #7420 is not explicitly

Re: intern project on profiling sugar

2008-07-04 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Jul 04, 2008 at 08:56:34AM +0200, Riccardo Lucchese wrote: Hi I'm riccardo lucchese (rl) and will be an intern at olpc for the next ten weeks. My initial proposal for the internship was working on profiling sugar. i.e. why is activities startup so long ? ;) [...] I was told that

Re: Seamless Lessons Security (commentary)

2008-07-07 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 12:28:03AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: [seamless/seamful thoughts] Questions? seamless and seamful seem very wooly words. Are they, in this context, well-defined? Seem dangerously like defining-away the argument. Assuming they are well defined, when I read * a

Re: Seamless Lessons Security (commentary)

2008-07-07 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 09:40:09AM -0400, Ivan Krsti�? wrote: On Jul 7, 2008, at 5:52 AM, Martin Dengler wrote: [main point] No response? 1. It's clearly academic, as in the rest of the world this launch-by-clicking-URL behavior is about as prevalent as the common cold. It clearly isn't

Re: Seamless Lessons Security (commentary)

2008-07-07 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 11:54:17AM -0300, Martin Langhoff wrote: 2008/7/7 Martin Dengler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [...] http://dev.laptop.org/~mdengler/launch-by-click-ie.jpg [...] I think that the dialogue you captured is the seam people are talking about :-) Cool. I was just querying

Re: Seamless Lessons Security (commentary)

2008-07-07 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 02:59:00PM -0400, Ivan Krsti�? wrote: On Jul 7, 2008, at 10:29 AM, Martin Dengler wrote: No response? Your message _appears_ to suppose that the security model was defined for the hell of it, or because someone wanted to engage in an interesting academic

Re: Seamless Lessons Security (commentary)

2008-07-07 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 05:03:58PM -0400, Ivan Krsti�? wrote: On Jul 7, 2008, at 4:50 PM, Hal Murray wrote: Is that good enough? I think it would work fine for paranoid security geeks, but what about school children? It's good enough because the purpose of the dialog is not to

Re: Seamless Lessons Security (commentary)

2008-07-07 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 12:27:08AM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote: Am 07.07.2008 um 23:31 schrieb Martin Dengler: On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 05:03:58PM -0400, Ivan Krsti�? wrote: On Jul 7, 2008, at 4:50 PM, Hal Murray wrote: Is that good enough? I think it would work fine for paranoid

Re: [sugar] Activity versioning schema

2008-07-16 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 06:52:28PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: Do you require more justification? Yes, qualified: not now, being the main qualification. Tell everyone to sod off and wait until update.2's out :). Wait til then unless you cannot, and in that case just declare something by fiat

Re: [sugar] Remarks on the Work of Sugar

2008-07-23 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 09:36:27AM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote: Michael Stone wrote: [...] Evidence: Non-extensible aspects of Sugar like activity launching, home view layout, frame contents, and the presence service have stagnated. [...] For sugar core - I don't think that

Re: External contributions (Re: [sugar] Remarks on the Work of Sugar)

2008-07-23 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:03:42PM +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Simon Schampijer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure, some guidance is needed. [...] Tomeu, Simon and Eben has been much more proactive and, what matters most, more *succesfull* than anyone else

Re: Remarks on the Work of Sugar

2008-07-23 Thread Martin Dengler
meta-comments: 1) I think all this discussion should be interpreted in the spirit of how can we do better, and what can we be focused on in the next year, rather than this is why things are bad (because they're not). I'm not sure a casual reader would understand this. 2) I'll leave more involved

Re: [sugar] Remarks on the Work of Sugar (kid contributions)

2008-07-24 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 06:27:59PM -0700, John Gilmore wrote: 2) Sugar would run more smoothly on-XO if jhbuild were retired. I think this is a good point in the abstract. Do any frequent contributors *not* have an XO? I approve of retiring jhbuild, and handing out XO's to Sugar

Re: [sugar] Remarks on the Work of Sugar (kid contributions)

2008-07-24 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 06:27:59PM -0700, John Gilmore wrote: [some interesting points] Sorry my meta-comments snuck in - they aren't relevant, and I didn't follow my own advice...I retract them (I'm sure you can tell what parts they were). = Do any frequent contributors have ONLY an XO? =

Re: joyride keyboard problems GL/glx

2008-07-25 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 08:10:21AM -0400, Chris Marshall wrote: For a lot of applications, using the 3D framework with the simpler geometries and more image-oriented, a software OpenGL can be quite acceptable. Forgive the uninformed question, but this would be a requirement for clutter to run

Re: suspend oddities

2008-07-30 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 10:56:01AM -0700, Deepak Saxena wrote: On Jul 30 2008, at 14:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] was caught saying: - gamepad keypresses aren't ignored during suspend. [...] However, I just did the following here: [...] And I don't see the character on console, which means it

Re: Collaboration Requirements

2008-07-31 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 03:47:19AM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: On 31 Jul 2008, at 01:07, Michael Stone wrote: On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 05:21:34PM -0400, Greg Smith wrote: It was well promoted and teachers on the sur list have repeatedly asked for a definition of how to use it successfully.

Re: Collaboration Requirements

2008-07-31 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 10:32:47PM -0400, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos wrote: Dear Greg and Michael, It seems to me that we spend more time discussing things, instead of implementing them. ... Even if you pick one randomly you are guaranteed to scale by a whole order of magnitude better

Re: [sugar] Proposal: Activity developers mailing list

2008-07-31 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:47:56AM +0200, Morgan Collett wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 04:42, Bastien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any follow-up on the idea of having a precise list of maintainers for all Sugar activities? Even just the email address from the git repo would be nice. [...]

NetworkManager complaining about missing /sbin/restorecon

2008-07-31 Thread Martin Dengler
Hi devel@, In joyride-2231, NetworkManager's complaining about missing /sbin/restorecon: -bash-3.2# grep restorecon /var/log/messages | tail -1 Aug 1 02:57:13 xo NetworkManager: WARN nm_spawn_process(): nm_spawn_process('/sbin/restorecon /etc/hosts'): could not spawn process. (Failed to

Re: Terminals

2008-07-31 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:08:17PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: michael wrote: One of our present security difficulties is that the Terminal activity is not isolated. It is de-isolated so that it can serve the dual role of root terminal and 'general exploration' terminal. Perhaps

Re: sugar start-up profiling

2008-08-01 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 04:53:20PM +0200, riccardo wrote: What about doing collision detection with Box2D (fast, well maintained etc..) ? Didn't get shouted down last time you (or someone) mentioned it on IRC. +1. riccardo Martin pgppPHCGMuWG1.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: sugar start-up profiling

2008-08-01 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 10:41:41AM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote: I could also see this working to bring frequently used activities to the center of the screen, and less frequently used ones to the edge (thought that interferes with free placement). As long as we don't end up with personalized

Re: Terminals

2008-08-01 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 12:08:25PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 02:45:38PM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: 2) Often the olpc related scripts I'd be trying to use would have some hooks into X, and other environment variables. Without a lot of env hacking/guessing they

Re: [sugar] Proposal: Activity developers mailing list

2008-08-02 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sat, Aug 02, 2008 at 05:10:54PM -0400, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bastien wrote: | - announce new activities | - announce changes in ownership | - check for dead/agonizing/orphaned activities | - discuss API and dependancies issues All

Re: The tedium of erasing journal entries

2008-08-04 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 11:02:17PM -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clearly, nobody is dogfooding. (me too, +1, kkthxbye) That'd be a great start. I happen to think that Sugar's python files should be kept in the journal.

Re: A (very) brief tour of the OLPC 802.11s device class in NM r3246

2008-08-04 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:11:13PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: Sjoerd and I started dissecting our NM-0.6 divergence so that we can begin porting that necessary pieces of that divergence to NM-0.7. Several highlights from our reading of two important files follow. NM-specific terminology is

Re: [sugar] How do I connect to a Jabber server ?

2008-08-04 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sat, Aug 02, 2008 at 10:10:09PM -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: Eben wrote: There has been lots of confusion about the difference between mesh and APs. They're really not the same at all, apart from the fact that they both depend on the radio. The new design no longer treats the mesh

Re: Test results on Joyride 2230?

2008-08-05 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 07:38:49AM -0400, Greg Smith wrote: Hi All, Can we get a show of hands on who downloaded joyride 2230? [...] If you did install it, can you send a quick reply. Any comments on what you tried and your impression of its stability is also welcome. Used it, moved on to

Re: Why we are about to not bother upkeeping TamTam.

2008-08-05 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 04:16:32PM -0400, jean piche wrote: Anyone care? I care (random user here). They're cool. Martin pgpOu0r2oHyN4.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

Re: 2230 and updating browse

2008-08-05 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 02:48:17PM -0700, Jacob Haddon wrote: So I deleted browse, ran the software update, and it updated to 94. Must have been something with the install... but it seems to work now (shows up in list view as 94) http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7494 seems to be what you've

Re: XO keeps staring at its own belly button

2008-08-07 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 08:46:35AM -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: Been noticing more and more that often my XO acts non-responsively. joyride-2258 feels more responsive to me that joyride-2251. Quantitative feedback this is not. I know that garbage collection can make the XO appear

Re: XO keeps staring at its own belly button

2008-08-07 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 10:25:56AM -0400, Erik Garrison wrote: On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 02:57:58PM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 08:46:35AM -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: I know that garbage collection can make the XO appear unresponsive. I'm not sure what you mean

Re: XO keeps staring at its own belly button

2008-08-09 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 09:23:57PM -0700, Ixo X oxI wrote: On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 14:55, Andrew Burgess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you tried with a swap partition? Swap is robust now on a SD card, immune to suspend/resume and power cycle. External swap area sounds cool. How does one set

Re: First impressions of joyride-2280

2008-08-11 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 02:15:28PM -0400, Chris Ball wrote: Hi, - After suspending with the power button however (screen goes off) and resuming with the power button, eth0 is down and does not come up automatically. Manually bringing it up with ifconfig and assigning it the

Re: New wireless/mesh icon info testers needed (#2866, #6995)

2008-08-12 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 07:02:49PM +1000, James Cameron wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 08:21:55AM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: Thanks very much! If you have any comments on how I could have made it easier for you to test [...] I have serious suggestions. Thanks. They are valued. git

Re: joyride version announcements

2008-08-20 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 09:53:22PM -0400, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos wrote: Why are new versions of Joyride not announced? Bert pointed out http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/streams.py to me yesterday, and it look as if the announcer doesn't bother if the joyride build hasn't succeeded

Re: Regressions(?) in latest joyride build 2321, 2323

2008-08-25 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 02:54:54PM -0400, Ton van Overbeek wrote: [...] On the neighborhood view and in the frame there is no longer a Disconnect option after you associate an AP. [...] Is the removal of the 'Disconnect' option intentional? There will be no 'Disconnect' option because

Re: [sugar] how can communications mode be manually controlled ?

2008-08-25 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 12:48:02AM -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: 1) To turn OFF both communication with the mesh and communication with the AP, use the control panel. Either Network -- Radio or Power -- Extreme Power Management seemed to work for me. But the control panel only

Re: Power-on to GUI in 20 seconds

2008-08-29 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 04:03:53PM -0400, Jim Gettys wrote: we should keep our eye on the prize of fast suspend/resume. We're at 1.3 seconds; our hardware is good to .05 seconds (...and the crowd goes wild!) Amen. - Jim Martin pgpaz8QVvoaqn.pgp Description:

Re: Power-on to GUI in 20 seconds

2008-08-29 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 04:51:23PM -0400, Richard A. Smith wrote: Creating a initial suspend image that is loaded on boot [is] trivial to setup. The reason we don't do it is because it burns up a 100 or so megs of NAND space. Could SD/USB key space be used instead of NAND? Martin

Re: Power-on to GUI in 20 seconds

2008-08-29 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 04:58:56PM -0400, Richard A. Smith wrote: Martin Dengler wrote: Could SD/USB key space be used instead of NAND? Yes. But then you have to ship one of those devices. Indeed. For G1G1 people like me an SD card that allowed me to boot super quickly, or even a few

Re: Power-on to GUI in 20 seconds

2008-08-29 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 05:47:02PM -0400, Richard A. Smith wrote: [tuxonice keep image mode pointers] So it appears I need to recompile and boot a tuxonice kernel to get an image[1]. In case anyone can steer me away from the wrong direction, I'm going to try: # kernel-foo 1) to compile the

Re: joyride 2369 - yum fails with key error

2008-08-31 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 02:55:18PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you try to use yum install in joyride 2369 it fails with a key error. Yup: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8125 Martin pgpUWUqTdo34P.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Devel mailing

Re: Greg Smith's Weekly Report

2008-09-05 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Sep 05, 2008 at 11:55:33AM -0400, Greg Smith wrote: In order to keep the community involved, motivated and knowledgeable, Michael suggested we share it with this list. This a great suggestion and great practice. I hope we don't abuse the access. Thanks, Greg S Martin

Re: [RFC] obtaining and using field samples of XO system images

2008-09-06 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Sep 05, 2008 at 03:00:35PM -0300, Erik Garrison wrote: -= Question =- How are we planning on obtaining simple information such as [1] which activities are most used/downloaded, [2] which ones generate the most data, [3] common software failures, [4] bug manifestation rate etc.?

RE: Terminal Text Fragment Drop Support Patch

2008-09-08 Thread Martin Dengler
- original message - From: Cortland Setlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am looking for suggestions on how to upload patches from Sugar. I use copy-to-journal (olpc-support-scripts) on the git-format-patch/diff output to get things in the journal. I wonder how hard it'd be to teach Web/Browse to try

Re: Stability and Memory Pressure in 8.2

2008-09-09 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 12:10:53AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: Dear devel@, Kim, Greg, and I have concluded that the instability we experience under memory-pressure in 8.2-759 and similar is the single hard issue that we wish to _attempt_ to address before releasing 8.2 on current

Re: Stability and Memory Pressure in 8.2

2008-09-09 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 03:13:28PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [759 sugar shell leak] seems more like 4.5 MB/hour. joyride-2399 sitting back at home with no activities, doing nothing all day: -bash-3.2# uptime 18:14:19 up 20:46, 8 users, load average: 0.15, 0.09, 0.12 -bash-3.2#

Re: Expected date for 8.2.0

2008-09-10 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 03:09:46PM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote: Am 10.09.2008 um 14:52 schrieb Walter Bender: Or add the ubiquitous parens around the icon a la the indicator light? That's *exactly* what I was thinking :) A halo/parens could look really nice. - Bert - Martin

Re: recognizing a previous connection

2008-09-10 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 09:25:57AM -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: To me, the G1G1 environment is characterized by NOT using the same connection each time. Please don't make it cumbersome to switch APs AFAIK, NetworkManager should Just Do This every time you return to within range of an AP to

Re: Libertas firmware on F9 for the XS

2008-09-12 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 01:10:58AM -0400, Michail Bletsas wrote: Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 09/12/2008 12:50:50 AM: Where is that list? Who has it? Who coordinates bugtracking for the libertas stuff? Can't be that much of a mistery. /important If that's a mystery to you

Re: Automatic (Bulk) delete all journal records

2008-09-17 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 05:54:50PM -0300, Alejandro Fernandez wrote: Hi! Is there a way to delete all journal entries in a single step? (maybe from the terminal tool?) From the terminal or a console, this should do it: mv ~olpc/.sugar/default/datastore ~olpc/.sugar/default/datastore.deleted

Re: [sugar] G1G1v2 Activities

2008-09-17 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 05:54:45PM -0400, Greg Smith wrote: Hi All, We need to pick the activities we ship with 8.2 when its manufactured for G1G1 users. [...] What do you think are the most important activities to include? Please pick up to 10 and put them in order of priority. Going

Re: 8.2-760 AP connect problem

2008-09-21 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 05:10:22PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: You folks might be interested to know that you can teach NetworkManager to prefer connecting to APs instead of to the mesh. I believe the command is echo infra /etc/NetworkManager/mesh-start If anyone gets this to work

Re: [sugar] Impressions of Sugar's appeal to technical users (was: Supporting desktop applications, extending the EWMH spec)

2008-09-22 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 02:52:09PM -0400, Erik Garrison wrote: On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 05:01:41PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: My impression, based on historical conversations with the parties involved is that there are a bunch of hackers who feel that we did ourselves a disservice by

Re: [sugar] frame gets in the way when alt-tabbing

2008-09-22 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 06:05:34PM -0400, Luke Faraone wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 16:58, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Since there is a key dedicated to bringing up Journal when needed, I sometimes patch homemodel.py to not even show Journal during alt-tabbing.] I was

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