Printing and the XO

2008-01-03 Thread david
going to some effort to produce is a way to print double-sided if the printer supports it, but it should be possible to do this in a way that won't interfere with normal printing. David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http

how do I update to the test builds?

2008-01-03 Thread david
olpc-update will let me install (some) of the joyride builds, but it doesn't seem to see the update.1 builds that are being announced on this list. so two questions 1. which set of test builds is more useful for me to be running? 2. how do I get it to install the update.1 test builds? David

Kernel configuration options

2008-01-03 Thread david
a 333MHz laptop that I was running Slackware on, and it was far more responsive then the XO is (even with a faster CPU and a solid-state drive). there is a LOT of room for improvement here. /rant David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http

Re: Kernel configuration options

2008-01-03 Thread david
I've preferred to avoid using it in the first place), but anything posted as a formal suggestion needs to be tested. David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

RE: Printing and the XO

2008-01-03 Thread david
(or to the printer) and have them copied to the server and then use something on the server to print the document than it would be to force sneakernet to be used for printing David Lang My guess is schools want a printer if they can afford one. Let us know what feedback shows it's a priority for existing

Re: XO Xorg.log

2008-01-03 Thread david
errors sound like more of a problem. is the config made for a different version of X than what is shipped? (is this possibly a cause for the trackpad problems) note that this was from joyride-1498 David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

Re: Printing et al.

2008-01-04 Thread david
') David Lang - Sneaker net with USB drives School systems may have more ideas. Maybe print over the network to a central location and snail mail the hard copy back. That's not very economical but my point is we should let the users come up with some suggestions. Maybe the right answer is a $100

Re: Printing et al.

2008-01-04 Thread david
net might be faster than snail mail. Or maybe it's just a long walk. but the mesh network should be faster than either. David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: loss of wireless after joyride-1496 update

2008-01-05 Thread david
On Sat, 5 Jan 2008, David Woodhouse wrote: On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 22:09 -0800, Dan Krejsa wrote: Attached are the output from 'iwlist scan' and dmesg. 'quibble' is the router I'm trying to connect to. It's a netgear WPN824v2. After collecting these logs, and making another unsuccessful attempt

Re: mesh portal discovery

2008-01-09 Thread david
like to avoid inside the school) you really don't want to have your IP address change becouse you moved to have a different MPP closer to you. David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: mesh portal discovery

2008-01-09 Thread david
out to the nearest MPP. response traffic would go to the MPP that allocated the IP address, and that box then tunnels the packet over to the MPP box closest to the laptop (similar to how LVS does load balancing), and that box then sends it over the radio. David Lang

mp3 player options for XO?

2008-01-09 Thread david
to work. what should be used for this sort of thing? David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: mesh portal discovery

2008-01-09 Thread david
and there is egress filtering outside the MPP boxes, that filtering would need to allow the mesh IP's out through all MPP boxes. David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: mesh portal discovery

2008-01-09 Thread david
any) David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

auto screen rotation

2008-01-10 Thread david
way to use both of the gamepad controls in portrit mode. (I do use portrit mode sometimes to make reading tall, narrow ccolumns easier, but it's hardly my default) 2. this is overriding what the user is explicitly setting, why, and how can a user change this default? David Lang

Re: auto screen rotation

2008-01-10 Thread david
? David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: auto screen rotation

2008-01-10 Thread david
keys and gamepads don't produce the samw result (instead of showing ^[[A it just shows A) I haven't rebooted yet, I will try that next. David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: auto screen rotation

2008-01-10 Thread david
after a reboot I can duplicate the crash (but only once per reboot) however the output on the console of the function keys seems to consistantly be the new version (before and after the crash on new reboots) David Lang On Thu, 10 Jan 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 10 Jan 2008

Re: sugarize tool and Tux Paint

2008-01-10 Thread david
these don't seem to work on build 679 (tux paint, xlogo, or this script) suggestions? David Lang On Mon, 7 Jan 2008, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On Dec 29, 2007, at 8:48 , Albert Cahalan wrote: I wrote a tool to make normal X programs to run under sugar. As a demo, it runs a logo program

Re: mesh portal discovery

2008-01-10 Thread david
node the inbound packet will go over the wire until it is as close to the laptop as possible. David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: mesh portal discovery

2008-01-10 Thread david
, if you are willing to throw way all existing software (and solve the reconnect security problems) you may be able to make it work, but there are no apps that work this way today that I am aware of. David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

Re: mesh portal discovery

2008-01-10 Thread david
and there are lots of apps that use long-term connections and recover from IP changes, please provide examples. David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: New update.1 build 680

2008-01-10 Thread david
to date (addressing the issues I ran into in the 'auto screen rotation' thread?) David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: mesh portal discovery

2008-01-10 Thread david
, there should be no need for nonstandard mechanisms to let applications know that the IP address is *about* to change. Instead they will naturally find out after it *does* change. this gets back to my question about exactly why the change is a problem. David Lang

Re: xo root passwd

2008-01-14 Thread david
it. When I did login as root, it asked me password. Can you kindly let me know what the password is? you can do 'sudo passwd' to set the password to a known value David Lang Thanks, Sung-Hyuck On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 20:45 -0500, Albert Cahalan wrote: Bernardo Innocenti writes: Albert Cahalan

Re: Classroom tools

2008-01-14 Thread david
is to replace the useual situation where the teacher asks a question and then calls on a single student to answer with one where the teacher asks a question and then everyone provides an answer, and the teacher then picks an answer to proceed with. David Lang Perhaps if you guys are thinking

Re: New update.1 build 682

2008-01-16 Thread david
I can't get the journal to see the SD card with this build. I can see it from the command line just fine. David Lang On Tue, 15 Jan 2008, Build Announcer Script wrote: Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:00:03 -0500 (EST) From: Build Announcer Script [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: New update.1 build 682

2008-01-19 Thread david
similar effects, but what I'm seeing is after a full power cycle. I'm not doing a suspend attached is the sugar logfile David Lang On Sat, 19 Jan 2008, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:02:02 -0500 From: Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: New update.1 build 682

2008-01-20 Thread david
the problem David Lang Cheers, Olly ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo

Re: New update.1 build 682

2008-01-20 Thread david
mounted: mv /media/2FD2-5097/.olpc.store /media/2FD2-5097/.olpc.store.bk After rebooting, the SD card should be correctly recognized by the Journal. yes, after removing this dir it's recognised again. thanks. David Lang Tomeu On Sat, 2008-01-19 at 18:24 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: New joyride build 1569

2008-01-21 Thread david
just parts of it. after it grinds for a while it crashes (and in the process corrupts the keyboard under X) Attached is the sugar logs for the web activity and /var/log/messages one other strange thing is that when typing at the console the backloght keeps dimming and brightening. David

Re: New joyride build 1569 (fixed in 1570)

2008-01-21 Thread david
start. sometimes I get the toolbar on the top, sometimes just parts of it. after it grinds for a while it crashes (and in the process corrupts the keyboard under X) 1570 fixed this problem David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http

Re: New update.1 build 687

2008-01-23 Thread david
it stands out :-) for a while I thought this was related to loading the web activity, but I just experianced a case of this problem after upgrading to build 687, and the only thing I've run after the upgrade is a single terminal window. David Lang

Re: New update.1 build 687

2008-01-23 Thread david
night (unless there is a new firmware build to try :-) this time a switch from X to the console cleared it up. David Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 22 Jan 2008, Mitch Bradley wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm occasionally seeing an issue with the keyboard in recent builds

Re: New joyride build 1591

2008-01-25 Thread david
from build 689) the firmware does seem to fix the blinking backling in the console David Lang WEP seems to be working for me. Are you having an issue connecting to a new AP or with one that already has a key associated with it? the same one I've been using since I got the g1g1 machine

Re: New joyride build 1591

2008-01-25 Thread david
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008, Build Announcer v2 wrote: http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1591 Changes in build 1591 from build: 1590 this build appears to break WEP (I upgraded from build 689) the firmware does seem to fix the blinking backling in the console David Lang

Re: New joyride build 1591

2008-01-25 Thread david
/build1591 Changes in build 1591 from build: 1590 this build appears to break WEP (I upgraded from build 689) the firmware does seem to fix the blinking backling in the console David Lang WEP seems to be working for me. Are you having an issue connecting to a new AP or with one that already

Re: PDF reader not really user friendly...

2008-01-26 Thread david
at a time (some software will overlap the pages by moving a line or two less than a page) try this with any existingpdf reader or any word processing software and you will see them working the same way. the OLPC software should not be any different. David Lang

firmware q2d10

2008-01-26 Thread david
in the past) and the machine finally froze, after 15 min I power cycled it. David lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: PDF reader not really user friendly...

2008-01-26 Thread david
becouse that is the standard. an improvement needs to be enough better to justify violating existing standard practice. David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: PDF reader not really user friendly...

2008-01-26 Thread david
, which attempts to place digraphs next to each other, might be slower on this size keyboard. but adults are not supposed to be useing these keyboards ;-) David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: firmware q2d10

2008-01-27 Thread david
reported above. as I understand it this should have left me with everything the same except the firmware. David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: firmware q2d10

2008-01-27 Thread david
the result. Note the ' .' on the end. That prints out the value. This should print a number. Please report back what that error code is. it reports 9 David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: firmware q2d10

2008-01-27 Thread david
, but it's been working. I'll rebootand report the result. Note the ' .' on the end. That prints out the value. This should print a number. Please report back what that error code is. it reports 9 removing and reseating the battery cleared the problem (at least for now). David Lang

Re: [PATCH] RFC: ReadActivity fullscreen, paging changes

2008-01-27 Thread david
rotation automatically. That may mess up apps that expect the current behavior though - are there any? Should the game buttons stay static even when rotating? I believe that there needs to be a better way for an application to define how these keys work for it (ideally including the rotate key) David

Re: [PATCH] RFC: ReadActivity fullscreen, paging changes

2008-01-27 Thread david
and pointer mode. you could change the shape of the exit icon when in pointer mode to indicate what mode you are in. David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: New joyride build 1597

2008-01-27 Thread david
(compared to 1590 and 690) David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: firmware q2d10

2008-01-27 Thread david
to input the WEP data, it failed, I tried again, it failed, I tried another network it failed, I tried my LAN again and it worked. note that I did not have to enter my WEP data after the upgrade to get the initial connection. David Lang ___ Devel mailing

Re: [PATCH v2] RFC: ReadActivity fullscreen, paging changes

2008-01-27 Thread david
(the manuals suffered from fonts being invisable, but this seems to be mostly, if not completely fixed in recent builds) David Langdiff --git a/shell/ev-view.c b/shell/ev-view.c index b464c3f..3bfe7da 100644 --- a/shell/ev-view.c +++ b/shell/ev-view.c @@ -360,7 +360,7 @@ scroll_to_current_page (EvView

Re: Screen rotation and keys

2008-01-27 Thread david
, but that violates the principle of least surprise. all you would have to do to get the rotation functionality back is to lift the screen an inch or two and hit the rotation button. David Langdiff --git a/shell/ev-view.c b/shell/ev-view.c index b464c3f..3bfe7da 100644 --- a/shell/ev-view.c +++ b

Re: [PATCH] RFC: ReadActivity fullscreen, paging changes

2008-01-27 Thread david
, but it was pretty trivial. David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: [PATCH] RFC: ReadActivity fullscreen, paging changes

2008-01-27 Thread david
). Perhaps there needs to be a longer timeout. Say a full second or so in the corner before the frame pops out. take a look here for instructions for how to disable them (you can still pull it up by hitting the button) http://en.forum.laptop.org/viewtopic.php?f=17t=930 David Lang

Re: Animation/Python/PyGames vs battery charge

2008-01-30 Thread david
a page load and switch to something else while waiting for it. suspending the browser when it's in the background will cause all sorts of grief. David Lang___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

overly agressive sleeping (and other requests/suggestions)

2008-02-03 Thread david
think the idea is great, but I've been getting frustrated by some of the software, and hit one too many network disconnects becouse of the agressive power savings, which promted meto finally vent these frustrtions David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel

Re: python activities startup

2008-02-06 Thread david
version) if you can get the linking and initialization step down to once per boot it will bee a huge win. David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Proposal: the 'faster' branch.

2008-02-08 Thread david
the joyride builds are? David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: mouse unstable on rc2

2008-02-11 Thread david
between? at least two of the machines had been vanilla 650 boxes, but one was my primary box that had been updated daily to joyride (up through last wednesday) David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: mouse unstable on rc2

2008-02-11 Thread david
other person's laptop that we upgraded from 650 to rc2 over the weekend also had mouse problems after the upgrade David Lang On Mon, 11 Feb 2008, David W Hogg wrote: I don't know if this is related, but if I leave mine booted up for long enough, the mouse jumps to the lower right corner every

Re: [Community-news] OLPC News (2008-02-09)

2008-02-11 Thread david
, unless there aren't enough other machines doing so. David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: problems using the measure activity.

2008-02-10 Thread david
obviously I meant the distance utility not the measure (scope) utility. David Lang On Sun, 10 Feb 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 23:06:48 -0800 (PST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: devel@lists.laptop.org Subject: problems using the measure activity. several of us took

problems using the measure activity.

2008-02-10 Thread david
togeather. when it works it's a great demo, but it's extremely frustrating thing to try and get it to work and fail. David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: problems using the measure activity.

2008-02-10 Thread david
the hotel had to start with and that SCALE put up to provide access. David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: problems using the measure activity.

2008-02-10 Thread david
to be considered a hostile RF environment? David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

mouse unstable on rc2

2008-02-11 Thread david
second box, but I haven't been useing it as extensivly so I can't promise that it never had a problem before (it was still on build 650 prior to this weekend, with no noticed problems. David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http

Re: mouse unstable on rc2

2008-02-12 Thread david
. So if you can get a repeatable jumpy mouse I'd love to hear if that really does fix it. If I can repeat the problem I'll try it. David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

XO visability

2008-02-18 Thread david
who's names showed up and they don't have XO's (in one case I found the only machine the person had was a MAC) any suggestions on where to start/ David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Two general thoughts

2008-02-19 Thread david
' and not realize that the problems ever get fixed (I've done it on one of my machines, and if I used the other frequently I'd do the same there) David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Alternative power/recharging source?

2008-02-22 Thread david
A preliminary article about the gravity lamp can be found here (from Virginia Tech): http://www.vtnews.vt.edu/story.php?relyear=2008itemno=111 an additional possible problem is the patent that they are trying to get on the mechanism. David Lang ___ Devel

Re: Staffing of an OLPC Booth at PyCon, volunteers needed

2008-02-22 Thread david
with each other, or on an access point so they can connect to the Internet (I would say have them connect to the Internet unless there is some specific reason to not do so) David Lang On Fri, 22 Feb 2008, Mel Chua wrote: I'll be at PyCon after all (yay TOPP!). I'm not sure exactly when

Re: Alternative power/recharging source?

2008-02-22 Thread david
consumption: 0.1 Watt with backlight off; 0.2-1.0 Watt with backlight on; in full e-book mode the display unit is the only thing getting power (radio off, cpu fully suspended) David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org

Re: Alternative power/recharging source?

2008-02-22 Thread david
refresh-only mode? no, in that mode it's down around .2W-ish I think in color, screen only mode it's ~1w David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Alternative power/recharging source?

2008-02-22 Thread david
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008, Richard A. Smith wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again whats your source for this info? Because its news to me. http://laptop.org/en/laptop/hardware/specs.shtml LCD power consumption: 0.1 Watt with backlight off; 0.2-1.0 Watt with backlight on; David Lang You

Re: uucp for sneakernet (was Re: Emulating the School...]

2008-03-04 Thread david
the messages through. you don't need to drop down to dialup to make it work, and using uucp avoids reinventing the wheel, intermittent connectivity is what it was designed for, and it doesn't really matter if that connectivity is serial or TCP/IP. David Lang

Re: uucp for sneakernet (was Re: Emulating the School...]

2008-03-04 Thread david
correction to deal with missed packets) instead of once to each destination can counter the drawback of a low bit rate. David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Updates from Nepal's Pilot Schools

2008-03-09 Thread david
fund this. I'm willing to bet that nobody has ever asked them to fund anything like this. you may be able to get some donations from the manufacturers as well. David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Updates from Nepal's Pilot Schools

2008-03-09 Thread david
On Sun, 9 Mar 2008, Bryan Berry wrote: David, good idea. there are only about 6 light bulbs at the Bishwamitra (smaller school) and less than 5 at Bashuki the larger school. that may not be enough to matter. on one of the wiki pages it mentioned 25-30 as a number. switching to LED's

Re: Updates from Nepal's Pilot Schools

2008-03-09 Thread david
to make the laptops useable. David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: New bible reading activity

2008-03-15 Thread david
reader and talk about what formats it supports, not list it as a 'bible reading activity'), or if you think you can do a bette job than the existing reader activities and are looking to replace them (or even replace a part of their capabilities) David Lang (speaking for myself) P.S. I do think

Re: New joyride build 1774

2008-03-17 Thread david
.1) as they came out, but I'm now waiting for the dust to settle and for there to be a known way for me to update the activities without going to a lot of effort each update. David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http

Re: Call for Papers/Talks/Ideas! Update.2 Mini-Conference

2008-03-21 Thread david
should be able to find it. David Lang Also on UI usability, there are far too many words for a non-reader to use almost all programs. At one point usability for non-readers was a goal, not sure what happened. If those two (albeit broad) areas were dealt with the laptop would come back off

Re: State of Update.1, March 24, 2008

2008-03-24 Thread david
that have the activities removed. there are several scripts being developed to manage the activities, but no clear direction (or directions) in this area, just lots of people who seem to be working independantly. David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel

Re: [sugar] Joyride is reopened for development.

2008-03-27 Thread david
pressures here as the releases take a while to get out. the same solution may not work, but it should be considered. David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Monday's Testing

2008-03-27 Thread david
much if it bounces around as the number of nodes change (as long as it doesn't waste a lot of power to make the change) David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Monday's Testing

2008-03-28 Thread david
they route everything through the AA or AP? if the density is high enough everything is within 1 RF hop (or 2 RF hops, one to the AA/AP, and another back out over a different channel) in these conditions should the XO even try to route through another XO? David Lang 6 - XO closest to AP or AA

Re: [OLPC Networking] RSSI value questions

2008-04-02 Thread david
signal strength won't work well, but you may be able to triangulate based on the arrival time of the signal at various locations. there are companies that do this commercialy with 3+ access points David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

Re: [OLPC Networking] RSSI value questions

2008-04-02 Thread david
is that it requres a clear path from the servers to the laptops, something I would not expect to see very much. it's also very sensitive to the direction the laptops are pointing. David Lang On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 4:27 AM

Re: [OLPC Networking] RSSI value questions

2008-04-02 Thread david
blocked. David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: [OLPC Networking] RSSI value questions

2008-04-02 Thread david
with the granularity of how good you want the location to be. If you want the locations within 10 feet you need (handwave) 10 ns. You might get some more info by averaging several samples. Is this a 2D or 3D problem? it can be either, but lets start with 2D David Lang

Re: [Server-devel] [OLPC Networking] RSSI value questions

2008-04-03 Thread david
a bearing from two antennas is not bleeding edge technology. It can require specialized hardware, but not always. David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: [Server-devel] [OLPC Networking] RSSI value questions

2008-04-03 Thread david
are being done from fixed points. either the school server antenna locations, or the known locations of specific assistant laptops. without known locations you can't do much. David Lang M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/02/2008 01:45:14 AM: Ryan, Like Ben said, inducing the physical layout

Re: [Server-devel] [OLPC Networking] RSSI value questions

2008-04-04 Thread david
directly connected inside the machine, or is there some way (possibly requiring a firmware modification) to find the difference between a given signal between the two antennas? David Lang Cheers, wad On Apr 4, 2008, at 4:39 AM, Oliver Mattos wrote: why exactly is an XS needed at all

Re: 2008 Debate of Build and Release

2008-04-05 Thread david
someone else thought a different feature was more important. as long as the steps are forward, people will accept small steps, and many steps, but if they feel that they are playing russian roulete with each upgrade there will be problems. David Lang On Sat, 5 Apr 2008, Charles Merriam wrote

Re: networking scenarios

2008-04-11 Thread david
the laptops talk to each other, and to whatever services are available on the wired network (if any). David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Usability testing

2008-04-13 Thread david
they stop beign as good test subjects to represent newbes (those who remember heathkit remember how good their instructions were, they couldn't use a person for more then a handful of times before that person stoped being baluble as a beginning level tester) David Lang [snip] The report

Re: Activity Launch Notification

2008-04-15 Thread david
on the keyboard dedicated to controlling the frame, I have been very happy with just disabling the automatic popup completely. David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: New Planning Thoughts draft.

2008-04-18 Thread david
(which can be a good thing if it makes people do a better job) David Lang Kim On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 7:54 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see this too as a hard problem and don't really have

Re: [sugar] [Community-news] where is Walter?

2008-04-22 Thread david
that will work better. I hope that Mary Lou is making good progress with her new machines, as I look forward to more great choices in the future. David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: New joyride build 1897

2008-04-27 Thread david
libvisual version 0.4.0-3.fc6 --- while I'm asking questions, what's this library do? David Lang --- Included perl version 4:5.8.8-28.fc7 --- --- Included perl-libs version 4:5.8.8-28.fc7 --- --- Changes for TurtleArt 9 from 7 --- + fixed some typos + fixed divide by zero bug + French

Re: [sugar] Sugar\Windows won't ship

2008-04-27 Thread david
don't start quoting it incorrectly. David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: An OLPC Development Model

2008-05-06 Thread david
of testing and some development of adminitrative tools and ship the result. unfortunantly much of the OLPC development has seemed to be against the idea of having external software run unmodified on sugar, and the resulting work to get anything running will hurt this model. David Lang So IMHO

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