Re: Subject: Re: Inappropriate use of private meetings lists - Communication of Decisions

2008-07-08 Thread Greg Smith
will be happy participating. Thanks, Greg S Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 09:19:52 +0200 From: NoiseEHC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Inappropriate use of private meetings lists. To: OLPC Devel devel@lists.laptop.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format

Re: Inappropriate use of private meetings lists. (reply to).

2008-07-03 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 4:15 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/7/2 Dennis Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I personally really dislike being CC'd on lists im subscribed to I find it extremely poor netiquette of all the mailing lists im subscribed to FWIW, I prefer the oppposite.

Re: Inappropriate use of private meetings lists.

2008-07-02 Thread NoiseEHC
There are top-down decisions being made by a few people that drive the direction of OLPC. These decisions are not waiting for consensus, and they are made by a small number of people. I don't believe this is going to change (at least not in the short term). I, personally, do not care who

Re: Inappropriate use of private meetings lists. (reply to).

2008-07-02 Thread John Watlington
As not everyone has admin access on mailman.laptop.org, here is the text to which JG linked: reply_goes_to_list (general): Where are replies to list messages directed? Poster is strongly recommended for most mailing lists. This option controls what Mailman does to the Reply-To: header in

Re: Inappropriate use of private meetings lists. (reply to).

2008-07-02 Thread NoiseEHC
1. olpc games sets the reply-to 2. BTW this recommendation does not make my point wrong (eg that the current setting makes harder to keep conversations on the devel list) Jim Gettys wrote: Here's mailman's recommendation about replyto...

Re: Inappropriate use of private meetings lists. (reply to).

2008-07-02 Thread Jim Gettys
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 17:47 +0200, NoiseEHC wrote: 1. olpc games sets the reply-to Sounds like it should get fixed... 2. BTW this recommendation does not make my point wrong (eg that the current setting makes harder to keep conversations on the devel list) And screws many people who use

Re: Inappropriate use of private meetings lists. (reply to).

2008-07-02 Thread pgf
jim wrote: On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 17:47 +0200, NoiseEHC wrote: 1. olpc games sets the reply-to Sounds like it should get fixed... 2. BTW this recommendation does not make my point wrong (eg that the current setting makes harder to keep conversations on the devel list) And

Re: Inappropriate use of private meetings lists. (reply to).

2008-07-02 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Wednesday 02 July 2008, Jim Gettys wrote: Here's mailman's recommendation about replyto... http://lists.laptop.org/admin/devel/?VARHELP=general/reply_goes_to_list - Jim I personally really dislike being CC'd on lists im subscribed to I find it extremely poor

Re: Inappropriate use of private meetings lists. (reply to).

2008-07-02 Thread Carol Lerche
I don't understand the argument that forcing Reply-to to be back to the list eradicates a list participant's ability to get the reply on their preferred email address. Presumably they replied to the list via this address. By forcing Reply-to to the list address, all subscribers should receive

Re: Inappropriate use of private meetings lists. (reply to).

2008-07-02 Thread Jim Gettys
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 09:54 -0700, Carol Lerche wrote: I don't understand the argument that forcing Reply-to to be back to the list eradicates a list participant's ability to get the reply on their preferred email address. Presumably they replied to the list via this address. This doesn't

Re: Inappropriate use of private meetings lists. (reply to).

2008-07-02 Thread NoiseEHC
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 17:47 +0200, NoiseEHC wrote: 1. olpc games sets the reply-to Sounds like it should get fixed... 2. BTW this recommendation does not make my point wrong (eg that the current setting makes harder to keep conversations on the devel list) And screws

Re: Inappropriate use of private meetings lists. (reply to).

2008-07-02 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Wednesday 02 July 2008, Carol Lerche wrote: I don't understand the argument that forcing Reply-to to be back to the list eradicates a list participant's ability to get the reply on their preferred email address. Presumably they replied to the list via this address. By forcing Reply-to to

Re: Inappropriate use of private meetings lists. (reply to).

2008-07-02 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 02.07.2008 um 19:33 schrieb Dennis Gilmore: by setting the replyto the list i wont get ccd on email when people reply to all because that is the easy way to make sure it goes back to the list in the current setup. instead I will get responses via mailmain and not direct and the

Re: Inappropriate use of private meetings lists. (reply to).

2008-07-02 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Wednesday 02 July 2008, Bert Freudenberg wrote: Am 02.07.2008 um 19:33 schrieb Dennis Gilmore: by setting the replyto the list i wont get ccd on email when people reply to all because that is the easy way to make sure it goes back to the list in the current setup. instead I will

Re: Inappropriate use of private meetings lists. (reply to).

2008-07-02 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 02.07.2008 um 20:01 schrieb Dennis Gilmore: On Wednesday 02 July 2008, Bert Freudenberg wrote: Am 02.07.2008 um 19:33 schrieb Dennis Gilmore: by setting the replyto the list i wont get ccd on email when people reply to all because that is the easy way to make sure it goes back to the

Re: Inappropriate use of private meetings lists. (reply to).

2008-07-02 Thread pgf
bert wrote: Am 02.07.2008 um 20:01 schrieb Dennis Gilmore: On Wednesday 02 July 2008, Bert Freudenberg wrote: Am 02.07.2008 um 19:33 schrieb Dennis Gilmore: by setting the replyto the list i wont get ccd on email when people reply to all because that is the easy way to make

Re: Inappropriate use of private meetings lists. (reply to).

2008-07-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
2008/7/2 Dennis Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED]: by setting the replyto the list i wont get ccd on email when people reply to all because that is the easy way to make sure it goes back to the list in the current setup. instead I will get responses via mailmain and not direct and the mail will have

Re: Inappropriate use of private meetings lists. (reply to).

2008-07-02 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
I would like just remind you that the real question is that if this right reply to setting is more or less important than keeping discussions on the devel list or not. I personally think that the latter is more important IMHO. This can often be controlled by using 'mail-reader' facilities.

Re: Inappropriate use of private meetings lists. (reply to).

2008-07-02 Thread C. Scott Ananian
2008/7/2 Dennis Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I personally really dislike being CC'd on lists im subscribed to I find it extremely poor netiquette of all the mailing lists im subscribed to FWIW, I prefer the oppposite. My mail gets filtered in general *unless* I'm explicitly named, either in the

Inappropriate use of private meetings lists.

2008-07-01 Thread C. Scott Ananian
When Mozilla went public, the first item on their list of design principles was: External development counts more than convenience or ease-of-habit for internal-to-Netscape developers. The Netscape X-heads, for example, have moved all of their mail usage except for I'm-out-sick-today and any

Re: Inappropriate use of private meetings lists.

2008-07-01 Thread Kim Quirk
Scott, I think we all agree that communications can improve and constructive ideas on how to do that are always welcome. I'm not sure how you decided that we had consensus on following Mozilla's design principles. I don't remember being part of that discussion. I'm not sure how we define