Re: New joyride build 2097

2008-07-02 Thread david
On Tue, 1 Jul 2008, Build Announcer v2 wrote:

 -cdparanoia-libs alpha9.8-30
 +cdparanoia-libs 10.0-2.fc9
 -mesa-libGL 7.1-0.31.fc9
 +mesa-libGL 7.1-0.35.fc9
 -mesa-libGLU 7.1-0.31.fc9
 +mesa-libGLU 7.1-0.35.fc9

what is bringing in these as dependancies?

for machines that would only ever see a CD as an external device (and 
rarely in normal use even then) I don't think that cdparanoia should be 
eating up space

as far as mesa goes, the list has been very adament that the XO laptop 
cannot run any opengl stuff, and my understanding is mesa exists to 
implement a software version of opengl. either position is reasonable (no 
opengl+ no mesa or mesa with slow opengl support), but right now it's a 
contradiction (mesa installed and eating up resources, but instructions to 
not use it for anything)

David Lang
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Re: New joyride build 2097

2008-07-02 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
 as far as mesa goes, the list has been very adament that the XO laptop
 cannot run any opengl stuff, and my understanding is mesa exists to
 implement a software version of opengl. either position is reasonable (no
 opengl+ no mesa or mesa with slow opengl support), but right now it's a
 contradiction (mesa installed and eating up resources, but instructions to
 not use it for anything)

the XO laptop cannot run any opengl stuff -- that's cast-in-stone 
language.  I'm currently using f7 builds rather than f9, but (just 
to show that it *will* run) I've installed a binary Linux 
application that was compiled to require opengl.  I did 'yum install 
freeglut' to keep that application happy.  (Not sure whether that 
particular application can actually *use* opengl -- it tells me that 
some application-specific-images are not present -- but the rest of 
that application works fine.)

mikus

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Re: New joyride build 2097

2008-07-02 Thread Bert Freudenberg

Am 02.07.2008 um 13:31 schrieb Mikus Grinbergs:

 as far as mesa goes, the list has been very adament that the XO  
 laptop
 cannot run any opengl stuff, and my understanding is mesa exists to
 implement a software version of opengl. either position is  
 reasonable (no
 opengl+ no mesa or mesa with slow opengl support), but right now  
 it's a
 contradiction (mesa installed and eating up resources, but  
 instructions to
 not use it for anything)

 the XO laptop cannot run any opengl stuff -- that's cast-in-stone
 language.

Actually, we are saying there is no *hardware-accelerated* 3D.

- Bert -


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Re: New joyride build 2097

2008-07-02 Thread Daniel Drake
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 03:27 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  -cdparanoia-libs alpha9.8-30
  +cdparanoia-libs 10.0-2.fc9
  -mesa-libGL 7.1-0.31.fc9
  +mesa-libGL 7.1-0.35.fc9
  -mesa-libGLU 7.1-0.31.fc9
  +mesa-libGLU 7.1-0.35.fc9
 
 what is bringing in these as dependancies?

cdparanoia-libs:

totem-gstreamer-2.23.2-4.fc9.i386
gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.19-2.fc9.i386
gstreamer-python-0.10.11-2.fc9.i386
gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.8-5.fc9.i386
totem-2.23.2-4.fc9.i386
totem-mozplugin-2.23.2-4.fc9.i386
totem-xine-2.23.2-4.fc9.i386


mesa-libGL:

mesa-libGLU-7.1-0.31.fc9.i386
totem-xine-2.23.2-4.fc9.i386
xorg-x11-utils-7.3-3.fc9.i386
xine-lib-1.1.12-2.fc9.i386


mesa-libGLU:

xine-lib-1.1.12-2.fc9.i386
totem-xine-2.23.2-4.fc9.i386


I don't think anyone is really arguing that these should be included in
OLPC builds, we just need time to make the appropriate modifications so
that they get kicked out. You can see a list of new packages here:
http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/update.1-joyride.html
and here is the tracker bug:
http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7353

Daniel


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Re: New joyride build 2097

2008-07-02 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Wednesday 02 July 2008, Daniel Drake wrote:
 On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 03:27 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   -cdparanoia-libs alpha9.8-30
   +cdparanoia-libs 10.0-2.fc9
   -mesa-libGL 7.1-0.31.fc9
   +mesa-libGL 7.1-0.35.fc9
   -mesa-libGLU 7.1-0.31.fc9
   +mesa-libGLU 7.1-0.35.fc9
 
  what is bringing in these as dependancies?

 cdparanoia-libs:

 totem-gstreamer-2.23.2-4.fc9.i386
 gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.19-2.fc9.i386
 gstreamer-python-0.10.11-2.fc9.i386
 gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.8-5.fc9.i386
 totem-2.23.2-4.fc9.i386
 totem-mozplugin-2.23.2-4.fc9.i386
 totem-xine-2.23.2-4.fc9.i386


 mesa-libGL:

 mesa-libGLU-7.1-0.31.fc9.i386
 totem-xine-2.23.2-4.fc9.i386
 xorg-x11-utils-7.3-3.fc9.i386
 xine-lib-1.1.12-2.fc9.i386


 mesa-libGLU:

 xine-lib-1.1.12-2.fc9.i386
 totem-xine-2.23.2-4.fc9.i386


 I don't think anyone is really arguing that these should be included in
 OLPC builds, we just need time to make the appropriate modifications so
 that they get kicked out. You can see a list of new packages here:
 http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/update.1-joyride.html
 and here is the tracker bug:
 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7353
I am working on totem so that these extra deps will all fall out.  Im doing it 
in a way that will ease long term maintainence of our totem package.

-- 
Dennis Gilmore



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New joyride build 2097

2008-07-01 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2097

Changes in build 2097 from build: 2096

Size delta: -0.13M

-kernel 2.6.25-20080630.1.olpc.4ae580e3a9597a7
+kernel 2.6.25-20080701.1.olpc.5001ddd18d37eee
-cdparanoia-libs alpha9.8-30
+cdparanoia-libs 10.0-2.fc9
-glib2 2.16.3-5.fc9
+glib2 2.16.3-7.fc9
-libXfont 1.3.1-4.fc9
+libXfont 1.3.2-1.fc9
-mesa-libGL 7.1-0.31.fc9
+mesa-libGL 7.1-0.35.fc9
-mesa-libGLU 7.1-0.31.fc9
+mesa-libGLU 7.1-0.35.fc9
-xorg-x11-server-utils 7.3-3.fc9
+xorg-x11-server-utils 7.4-1.fc9

--- Changes for glib2 2.16.3-7.fc9 from 2.16.3-5.fc9 ---
  + Fix a directory ownership oversight (#449885)
  + Fix a race in class initialization that causes assertion 

--- Changes for libXfont 1.3.2-1.fc9 from 1.3.1-4.fc9 ---
  + libXfont 1.3.2

--- Changes for xorg-x11-server-utils 7.4-1.fc9 from 7.3-3.fc9 ---
  + sessreg-1.0.4
  + xhost-1.0.2
  + xrandr-1.2.3
  + xrdb-1.0.5
  + xset-1.0.4
  + xsetpointer-1.0.1

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