Re: [IAEP] Long-term development strategy (Was: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119)

2010-04-17 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 2:52 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 23:31 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: [...] I'm not against packaging Sugar for RHEL. I just think it would cost more to support after the first year or two. Agreed. And in fact I said that

Re: [IAEP] Long-term development strategy (Was: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119)

2010-04-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 4:45 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: And there is a perfect reason for a stable distro such as RHEL or CentOS :-) :-) Two quick things I want to inject into this conversation. - Timing affects this decision. We're not in the abstract -- this is _now_. If

Re: [IAEP] Long-term development strategy (Was: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119)

2010-04-16 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Tue, 2010-04-13 at 07:59 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: I agree on this, but it misses the point :-) Not exactly. That was just supposed to continue your point-point-point pun :) * GSM connectivity requires up-to-date versions of udev and modem-manager to support USB dongles

Re: [IAEP] Long-term development strategy (Was: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119)

2010-04-16 Thread Yioryos Asprobounitis
--- On Fri, 4/16/10, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: From: Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org Subject: Re: [IAEP] Long-term development strategy (Was: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119) I'm not against packaging Sugar for RHEL. I just think it would cost more to support after

Re: [IAEP] Long-term development strategy (Was: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119)

2010-04-16 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 14:00 -0700, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote: But at least you have 2 years. With F11 you have 0. I agree. Today we should be releasing a system based on F13, which would come with 12 months of official support and maybe 8-10 months of *real* attention of the upstream

Re: [IAEP] Long-term development strategy (Was: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119)

2010-04-16 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: On Tue, 2010-04-13 at 07:59 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: I agree on this, but it misses the point :-) Not exactly. That was just supposed to continue your point-point-point pun :)  * GSM connectivity requires

Re: [IAEP] Long-term development strategy (Was: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119)

2010-04-16 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
Ha! Upgrading Firefox to version 3.5 would break the xulrunner ABI, on which we depend for hulahop (and hence Browse). I had zero problems running Firefox 3.5 from the Terminal activity on my XOs. I am currently running Firefox 3.6.3 - again, zero problems - including being able to launch it

Re: [IAEP] Long-term development strategy (Was: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119)

2010-04-16 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 23:31 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: [...] I'm not against packaging Sugar for RHEL. I just think it would cost more to support after the first year or two. Agreed. And in fact I said that exactly and hence my reference to the 18 month to 2.5 year point but the fact

Re: [IAEP] Long-term development strategy (Was: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119)

2010-04-13 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 09:31:25PM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: On Mon, 2010-04-12 at 23:54 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: Bernie, I'm not sure the point of this point at this point in time. To copy and paste part of the response I did to the other thread on fedora-olpc for others benefit.

Re: [IAEP] Long-term development strategy (Was: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119)

2010-04-13 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: On Mon, 2010-04-12 at 23:54 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: Bernie, I'm not sure the point of this point at this point in time. To copy and paste part of the response I did to the other thread on fedora-olpc for others

Re: [IAEP] Long-term development strategy (Was: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119)

2010-04-12 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:12 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: On Sat, 2010-04-10 at 13:29 -0700, Jon Nettleton wrote: Has there been any discussion on whether CentOS was an option as a base for the distro?  With RHEL/CentOS 6 hopefully within sight, that would give a nice

Re: [IAEP] Long-term development strategy (Was: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119)

2010-04-12 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Mon, 2010-04-12 at 23:54 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: Bernie, I'm not sure the point of this point at this point in time. To copy and paste part of the response I did to the other thread on fedora-olpc for others benefit. I personally don't see the point discussing it because from where I

Re: [IAEP] Long-term development strategy (Was: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119)

2010-04-12 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
IMHO I not only agree 120%, but also OLE Bolivia has budgeted support for upstreaming development. The idea being, if we are going to benefit, as an institution/country/project from work done professionally, if we are going to depend on it and expect it keeps up with improvements, then we have