Re: 11.2.0 development build 19 released

2011-06-22 Thread Daniel Drake
On 17 June 2011 01:09, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:
 So I propose an alternate form:

 [ifndef] #eblocks-written
 [ifdef] last-eblock#
 : pdup  ( n -- n' )  dup  last-eblock# max  ;
 also nand-commands  patch pdup dup zblock:  previous
 [then]
 [then]

 I suggest testing it with the stable firmware versions, that is
 those firmware versions included in the stable operating system
 releases.

Thanks, confirmed working!

Daniel
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Re: 11.2.0 development build 19 released

2011-06-16 Thread James Cameron
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 10:01:39AM +0100, Daniel Drake wrote:
 On 19 May 2011 23:29, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:
  No, just put it in the release notes.
 
  I presume you used an old firmware version to do the fs-update. ?Exactly
  which version did you use? ?This is important to know. ?For those
  updating from the latest stable 10.1.3 which has Q3A62, we expect no
  warning. ?For those updating using a firmware version after Q3A62, and
  before Q3A65 or Q3B04, a warning may appear.
 
 We also do a special trick in the signed building process to patch the
 firmware so that the error doesn't appear when it otherwise would
 have. This also applies for users using the 4-game-key flash method.
 So the number of users seeing the strange error will be really
 limited.
 
 James, here's the magic code we insert in the zsp file, would you mind
 checking if its still correct? I think you made some changes in this
 area after Mitch suggested it.
 
 [ifndef] #eblocks-written
 : pdup  ( n -- n' )  dup  last-eblock# max  ;
 also nand-commands  patch pdup dup zblock:  previous
 [then]

This hit us at Quanta yesterday, 'cause it broke fs-verify on XO-1.75,
workaround was to remove the lines from the .zsp file before using it
with fs-verify.

Current firmware versions don't have last-eblock#, yet they don't have
#eblocks-written either.

So I propose an alternate form:

[ifndef] #eblocks-written
[ifdef] last-eblock#
: pdup  ( n -- n' )  dup  last-eblock# max  ;
also nand-commands  patch pdup dup zblock:  previous
[then]
[then]

I suggest testing it with the stable firmware versions, that is
those firmware versions included in the stable operating system
releases.

I suggest not bothering to support the interim firmware versions unless
you have time to test them all.

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Re: 11.2.0 development build 19 released

2011-05-22 Thread James Cameron
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 12:06:58PM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote:
 On 05/20/2011 10:15 AM, James Cameron wrote:
 On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 09:38:12AM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote:
 On 05/20/2011 12:29 AM, James Cameron wrote:
 On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 06:54:54PM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote:
 Hmm, the representation of the missing blocks and the 'Warning' at the
 end that not all blocks have been written put me off. It looked to me
 as if there was an error. Maybe we can represent that better?
 
 No, just put it in the release notes.
 
 I presume you used an old firmware version to do the fs-update.  Exactly
 which version did you use?  This is important to know.  For those
 updating from the latest stable 10.1.3 which has Q3A62, we expect no
 warning.  For those updating using a firmware version after Q3A62, and
 before Q3A65 or Q3B04, a warning may appear.
 
 I did update from dx2. I guess one can live with the missing blocks
 if the warning is not displayed at the end.
 
 Do you know what firmware you used to do the fs-update?  This is
 displayed just before the ok prompt.  It may have changed since, of
 course.
 
 
 Now is Q3B03, but afaik it got updated. I could not find out easily
 which firmware version dx 2 from Paraguay had.

Okay, no worries.  I still presume it was a version after Q3A62 and
before Q3A65 or Q3B04, in which case there is no need to warn about the
warning in the release notes.

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Re: 11.2.0 development build 19 released

2011-05-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/20/2011 12:29 AM, James Cameron wrote:
 On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 06:54:54PM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote:
 Hmm, the representation of the missing blocks and the 'Warning' at the
 end that not all blocks have been written put me off. It looked to me
 as if there was an error. Maybe we can represent that better?

 No, just put it in the release notes.

 I presume you used an old firmware version to do the fs-update.  Exactly
 which version did you use?  This is important to know.  For those
 updating from the latest stable 10.1.3 which has Q3A62, we expect no
 warning.  For those updating using a firmware version after Q3A62, and
 before Q3A65 or Q3B04, a warning may appear.

I did update from dx2. I guess one can live with the missing blocks if 
the warning is not displayed at the end.

Regards,
Simon
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Re: 11.2.0 development build 19 released

2011-05-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/20/2011 10:15 AM, James Cameron wrote:
 On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 09:38:12AM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote:
 On 05/20/2011 12:29 AM, James Cameron wrote:
 On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 06:54:54PM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote:
 Hmm, the representation of the missing blocks and the 'Warning' at the
 end that not all blocks have been written put me off. It looked to me
 as if there was an error. Maybe we can represent that better?

 No, just put it in the release notes.

 I presume you used an old firmware version to do the fs-update.  Exactly
 which version did you use?  This is important to know.  For those
 updating from the latest stable 10.1.3 which has Q3A62, we expect no
 warning.  For those updating using a firmware version after Q3A62, and
 before Q3A65 or Q3B04, a warning may appear.

 I did update from dx2. I guess one can live with the missing blocks
 if the warning is not displayed at the end.

 Do you know what firmware you used to do the fs-update?  This is
 displayed just before the ok prompt.  It may have changed since, of
 course.


Now is Q3B03, but afaik it got updated. I could not find out easily 
which firmware version dx 2 from Paraguay had.

Regards,
Simon
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Re: 11.2.0 development build 19 released

2011-05-20 Thread Paul Fox
simon wrote:
  On 05/20/2011 10:15 AM, James Cameron wrote:
   On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 09:38:12AM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote:
   On 05/20/2011 12:29 AM, James Cameron wrote:
   On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 06:54:54PM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote:
   Hmm, the representation of the missing blocks and the 'Warning' at the
   end that not all blocks have been written put me off. It looked to me
   as if there was an error. Maybe we can represent that better?
  
   No, just put it in the release notes.
  
   I presume you used an old firmware version to do the fs-update.  Exactly
   which version did you use?  This is important to know.  For those
   updating from the latest stable 10.1.3 which has Q3A62, we expect no
   warning.  For those updating using a firmware version after Q3A62, and
   before Q3A65 or Q3B04, a warning may appear.
  
   I did update from dx2. I guess one can live with the missing blocks
   if the warning is not displayed at the end.
  
   Do you know what firmware you used to do the fs-update?  This is
   displayed just before the ok prompt.  It may have changed since, of
   course.
  
  
  Now is Q3B03, but afaik it got updated. I could not find out easily 
  which firmware version dx 2 from Paraguay had.

fyi -- q3b03 contained a fairly serious regression, which can cause
command timeouts when linux tries to talk to the EC.

it's fixed in q3b04.   (d.l.o. #10881)

paul

  
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  Simon
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Re: 11.2.0 development build 19 released

2011-05-19 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/14/2011 01:46 PM, Daniel Drake wrote:
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/11.2.0

 http://build.laptop.org/11.2.0/os19

 Notable changes:
 XO-1.5 zd images are now sparse, meaning fs-update writes only to
 certain parts of the disk and the flash process is much quicker

Hmm, the representation of the missing blocks and the 'Warning' at the 
end that not all blocks have been written put me off. It looked to me as 
if there was an error. Maybe we can represent that better?

Regards,
Simon
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Re: 11.2.0 development build 19 released

2011-05-19 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
I think the error message is resolved in the firmware update.
The visual representation is nice :)

Gonzalo

On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.dewrote:

 On 05/14/2011 01:46 PM, Daniel Drake wrote:
  http://wiki.laptop.org/go/11.2.0
 
  http://build.laptop.org/11.2.0/os19
 
  Notable changes:
  XO-1.5 zd images are now sparse, meaning fs-update writes only to
  certain parts of the disk and the flash process is much quicker

 Hmm, the representation of the missing blocks and the 'Warning' at the
 end that not all blocks have been written put me off. It looked to me as
 if there was an error. Maybe we can represent that better?

 Regards,
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Re: 11.2.0 development build 19 released

2011-05-19 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
 The visual representation is nice

???  I myself (and perhaps others) am used to the entire matrix being 
visually filled with green.  [It already was a shock on the XO-1 when 
with F14 some blue intruded upon the first couple green lines.]

Now the green leaves glaring gaps.  The user is being forced to TRUST 
that such gaps will not affect the running of the installed system.

NOT a reassuring visual presentation.

mikus


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Re: 11.2.0 development build 19 released

2011-05-19 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Well, this is not for end users, and the system show a message at the end
with the result. The message is corrected whit the new firmware.

On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Mikus Grinbergs mi...@bga.com wrote:

 The visual representation is nice


 ???  I myself (and perhaps others) am used to the entire matrix being
 visually filled with green.  [It already was a shock on the XO-1 when with
 F14 some blue intruded upon the first couple green lines.]


You are easily shoked ;)

Gonzalo



 Now the green leaves glaring gaps.  The user is being forced to TRUST that
 such gaps will not affect the running of the installed system.

 NOT a reassuring visual presentation.

 mikus



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Re: 11.2.0 development build 19 released

2011-05-14 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
I'm getting a download speed of 3 KB / sec !!!
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