Re: Collaboration test environment problem
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 17:46, Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: James Simmons wrote: I have two PCs running Fedora 10 and the Sugar RPMs that come with that. One of the computers runs GNOME and the other uses Window Maker. I run sugar-emulate on both. One copy of Sugar uses the name jim and the other uses jsimmons. Both use the schoolserver.media.mit.edu jabber server. Both are connected to the same router using Ethernet cables. When I go to the neighborhood view (F1) on both I see a number of buddies. However, while on the jim machine (Window Maker) I can see and invite jsimmons. When I look at the same view on jsimmons (GNOME) I cannot see user jim, although I can see other users. Do they see the same other users? schoolserver.media.mit.edu is using the shared roster, so every user should be able to see every other user. If the asymmetric visibility that you describe persists for more than 10 minutes, then you have found an extremely bizarre bug. No, that's not bizarre at all. I don't know who admins that server and what it's running. I've heard multiple reports of A sees B, B doesn't see A on that server. The bugs in the shared roster are more readily exposed in public jabber servers. You shouldn't need a server for two machines: if the machines don't see each other using link local presence (with no jabber server set) then it's a Fedora problem. If you really want to use a server, pick a different one from http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Community_Jabber_Servers and try again. If possible, rather run 0.84.0* and use jabber.sugarlabs.org which uses the new gadget component for presence. (* Due to be released today...) Regards Morgan ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Collaboration test environment problem
Morgan, Last night both machines were able to see each other and I was able to do a successful file transfer with Read Etexts, so I guess its an intermittent problem. I've never been able to have the two boxes see each other without specifying a jabber server. I'll try using a different server the next time it happens. Thanks, James Simmons Morgan Collett wrote: On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 17:46, Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: James Simmons wrote: I have two PCs running Fedora 10 and the Sugar RPMs that come with that. One of the computers runs GNOME and the other uses Window Maker. I run sugar-emulate on both. One copy of Sugar uses the name jim and the other uses jsimmons. Both use the schoolserver.media.mit.edu jabber server. Both are connected to the same router using Ethernet cables. When I go to the neighborhood view (F1) on both I see a number of buddies. However, while on the jim machine (Window Maker) I can see and invite jsimmons. When I look at the same view on jsimmons (GNOME) I cannot see user jim, although I can see other users. Do they see the same other users? schoolserver.media.mit.edu is using the shared roster, so every user should be able to see every other user. If the asymmetric visibility that you describe persists for more than 10 minutes, then you have found an extremely bizarre bug. No, that's not bizarre at all. I don't know who admins that server and what it's running. I've heard multiple reports of A sees B, B doesn't see A on that server. The bugs in the shared roster are more readily exposed in public jabber servers. You shouldn't need a server for two machines: if the machines don't see each other using link local presence (with no jabber server set) then it's a Fedora problem. If you really want to use a server, pick a different one from http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Community_Jabber_Servers and try again. If possible, rather run 0.84.0* and use jabber.sugarlabs.org which uses the new gadget component for presence. (* Due to be released today...) Regards Morgan ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Collaboration test environment problem
James Simmons wrote: I have two PCs running Fedora 10 and the Sugar RPMs that come with that. One of the computers runs GNOME and the other uses Window Maker. I run sugar-emulate on both. One copy of Sugar uses the name jim and the other uses jsimmons. Both use the schoolserver.media.mit.edu jabber server. Both are connected to the same router using Ethernet cables. When I go to the neighborhood view (F1) on both I see a number of buddies. However, while on the jim machine (Window Maker) I can see and invite jsimmons. When I look at the same view on jsimmons (GNOME) I cannot see user jim, although I can see other users. Do they see the same other users? schoolserver.media.mit.edu is using the shared roster, so every user should be able to see every other user. If the asymmetric visibility that you describe persists for more than 10 minutes, then you have found an extremely bizarre bug. --Ben ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Collaboration test environment problem
Benjamin, There is another difference I thought of. The machine that seems to be working OK is running in a Xepher window. I'm using a wide screen flat monitor running at 1440 x 900. The machine that doesn't seem to be working runs at 1024 x 768 and Sugar takes up the entire screen. When I was running Xubuntu on the same box it was able to run at a higher resolution (don't know what it was, but Sugar ran in a window). Fedora doesn't want to run at a higher resolution. So maybe the buddy is going offscreen somehow. Now the toolbar, etc. for the neighborhood view doesn't look truncated, so I don't know. I'm not exactly sure that the same users are appearing in both neighborhoods (other than the one I know is missing). I'll try and verify that tonight. James Simmons Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: James Simmons wrote: I have two PCs running Fedora 10 and the Sugar RPMs that come with that. One of the computers runs GNOME and the other uses Window Maker. I run sugar-emulate on both. One copy of Sugar uses the name jim and the other uses jsimmons. Both use the schoolserver.media.mit.edu jabber server. Both are connected to the same router using Ethernet cables. When I go to the neighborhood view (F1) on both I see a number of buddies. However, while on the jim machine (Window Maker) I can see and invite jsimmons. When I look at the same view on jsimmons (GNOME) I cannot see user jim, although I can see other users. Do they see the same other users? schoolserver.media.mit.edu is using the shared roster, so every user should be able to see every other user. If the asymmetric visibility that you describe persists for more than 10 minutes, then you have found an extremely bizarre bug. --Ben ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Collaboration test environment problem
On 2 Mar 2009, at 16:35, James Simmons wrote: Benjamin, There is another difference I thought of. The machine that seems to be working OK is running in a Xepher window. I'm using a wide screen flat monitor running at 1440 x 900. The machine that doesn't seem to be working runs at 1024 x 768 and Sugar takes up the entire screen. When I was running Xubuntu on the same box it was able to run at a higher resolution (don't know what it was, but Sugar ran in a window). Fedora doesn't want to run at a higher resolution. So maybe the buddy is going offscreen somehow. Just as a sanity check, open a Terminal and try the olpc-xos command, it provides a text list of all the buddy names it currently sees. --Gary Now the toolbar, etc. for the neighborhood view doesn't look truncated, so I don't know. I'm not exactly sure that the same users are appearing in both neighborhoods (other than the one I know is missing). I'll try and verify that tonight. James Simmons Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: James Simmons wrote: I have two PCs running Fedora 10 and the Sugar RPMs that come with that. One of the computers runs GNOME and the other uses Window Maker. I run sugar-emulate on both. One copy of Sugar uses the name jim and the other uses jsimmons. Both use the schoolserver.media.mit.edu jabber server. Both are connected to the same router using Ethernet cables. When I go to the neighborhood view (F1) on both I see a number of buddies. However, while on the jim machine (Window Maker) I can see and invite jsimmons. When I look at the same view on jsimmons (GNOME) I cannot see user jim, although I can see other users. Do they see the same other users? schoolserver.media.mit.edu is using the shared roster, so every user should be able to see every other user. If the asymmetric visibility that you describe persists for more than 10 minutes, then you have found an extremely bizarre bug. --Ben ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
