That's great - a 'somebody oughta' thread that actually produces action!
Good job, guys!
Now, somebody oughta dodge the patents for MP3, too
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no, it does not need to be thrashed out either in the press or in
court. The aim is to avoid both. What you need to do is produce
detailed claim charts, along with a set of non-infringement
arguments. Once you have those then you can work out how to write your
code
Rob,
I think it is work the effort, and would like to figure out how we on
the Gnash team can do this.
great! I'll contact you off list to discuss some of the ways we do
this for Samba and see if I can give you some help getting started.
Cheers, Tridge
Ed,
1. There are two kinds of good patent attorneys. One kind works pro
bono for free software and the other gets paid big bucks by patent
holders.
There is a 3rd kind - the kind that works for a law firm specifically
funded to assist free software projects. For example, the Software
I have been following prior discussions about codecs in general (it is
not about Gnash) and there is one thing I cannot understand.
As I see for example a H.264 AVC codec license is 0 or 10 or 20
cents/device. If I am mistaken somebody please correct me. See:
On Tue, 2008-01-08 at 19:34 -0700, Rob Savoye wrote:
Sigh, I am getting so tired of this issue with codecs... Gnash for
the XO is built without support for any proprietary audio or video
codecs. Because of the patent laws, the OLPC project (which is based in
the US) cannot
On Tue, 2008-01-08 at 20:06 -0700, Rob Savoye wrote:
To go along with this, I've been working on a clone of the Adobe
Media Server, so we can steam free codecs. Right now you can only do
this with icecast, but it doesn't speak the flash protocols, which
Gnash now supports.
Oooh. Gnash
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The other option is to write implementations of the codecs that avoid
the patents. Whether that is possible depends on the exact wording of
the patent, and sometimes it takes a few weeks working with a good
patent attorney to work out exactly what the patent really
Hi all,
Thanks a lot for your help and comments.
However it seems quite difficult for us to encode our videos in
Theora+Vorbis right now. I'm gonna talk to different people in the
company to get their opinion and see what we can do.
In the meantime, I've heard of the Helix Media Player
Thanks for offering help. However, I was thinking more about
ressources (time, people, storage, encoding, priorities, etc.).
Anyway, I'm going to report what everybody wrote and see if we can
make it soon ... or later.
Thanks
Sebastien
On Jan 9, 2008 10:32 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL
Jake Beard wrote:
Hopefully, later this year we'll see a completely open Java, and then see
Java on the XO.
Flash is terrible. If it were possible, I'd prefer to see an all-Java
solution.
Sorry, but java sucks rocks, and although I dislike flash, I think
it's a better solution for just
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We really need a open project to do patent analysis of this kind and
determine which of these key patents (not just codecs, but also other
important blocking patents) can be avoided, and which ones are too
tied to the format to avoid. Perhaps the OLPC project would
Sebastien Adgnot wrote:
However it seems quite difficult for us to encode our videos in
Theora+Vorbis right now. I'm gonna talk to different people in the
company to get their opinion and see what we can do.
Ffm peg does a fair job at codec conversion. We use our friends at
Lulu.tv to
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Walter Bender wrote:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Ask_OLPC_a_Question_about_Software#Include_Flash_Player.3F
but I want to be sure to be optimized with all the parameters of the
laptop (video performance, cpu, power management, etc.). We encode our
Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote:
There might be some way to embed Theora in Flash in a way that Gnash can play,
but this will never work in Adobe Flash. I strongly advise that, for OLPC,
you
avoid Flash altogether.
Gnash can already handle both Ogg and Theora as external files just
fine.
Walter Bender wrote:
Unfortunately, when I tried to see Dailymotion's website
http://www.dailymotion.com, the videos didn't work.
Sigh, I am getting so tired of this issue with codecs... Gnash for
the XO is built without support for any proprietary audio or video
codecs. Because of the
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