Re: How can the XO be made accessible to blind

2008-01-02 Thread Sameer Verma
Mitch Bradley wrote:
 David W Hogg wrote:
   
 On a somewhat related note, is there any way to attach an external
 monitor to the XO?  I would love to give my astronomy research
 seminars in the spring from my G1G1 XO; but this would also be useful
 for those with impaired sight (some of my colleagues need to immensely
 magnify images, diagrams, and figures in order to see them).  From my
 XO, Hogg
   
 

 Three solutions:

   
[snipped]

Specific instructions for the three (actually four) solutions are at
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Remote_display

Sameer

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Re: How can the XO be made accessible to blind

2007-12-30 Thread Hemant Goyal
Hi,

We have been working on a simple screen reader for the XO and have made some
headway. We have ported and customized eSpeak for the XO. A text to speech
server has been written and methods exposed through Dbus . I have documented
the work done till now at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Screen_Reader. The DBUS
api may be changed in the future. However, we still need to do some
extensive testing and refine the structure of the speech server.

We had initially planned to provide a simple highlight and speak option for
the xo. We now think that we should scale up and structure the project to
use eSpeak in a much more effective manner to provide accessibility to
blind/low vision students.

I think it would be brilliant if activity developers could exploit the
underlying speech server to write accessible activities. For example, an
activity at present can connect to the speech service through dbus and send
it strings of text to be spoken. We hope to prepare some guidelines for
activity developers to write accessible activities that could use the speech
server. What would be best way to do this?

We are also planning to explore Orca.  We dont want to rush into development
now, and would like to take some time in properly planning our approach and
creating some design documents first.

It'll be nice if experts could share their ideas and provide us with some
direction for this project.

Thank you and wishing you all a very Happy New Year.

Warm regards,
Hemant Goyal

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 Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:57:38 +
 From: Gabey8 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [laptop-accessibility] How can the XO be made accessible to
blind   users?
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 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 I have some deaf-blind friends who use braille attachments to access their
 computers.

 What needs to be done in order to permit the XO to work with a braille
 terminal or notetaker? What screen reading programs are available for Linux?

 And if said screen reading programs don't like working with Sugar (yet,
 anyway), is setting the XO up to boot to the terminal screen and going with
 text-only a viable solution for braille users?

 Donna

 
 Donna -- purple outline with orange fill color. If you see me in the
 Neighborhood, say hi! :)

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Re: How can the XO be made accessible to blind

2007-12-30 Thread David W Hogg
On a somewhat related note, is there any way to attach an external
monitor to the XO?  I would love to give my astronomy research
seminars in the spring from my G1G1 XO; but this would also be useful
for those with impaired sight (some of my colleagues need to immensely
magnify images, diagrams, and figures in order to see them).  From my
XO, Hogg

On Dec 30, 2007 12:52 PM, Hemant Goyal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 We have been working on a simple screen reader for the XO and have made some
 headway. We have ported and customized eSpeak for the XO. A text to speech
 server has been written and methods exposed through Dbus . I have documented
 the work done till now at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Screen_Reader. The DBUS
 api may be changed in the future. However, we still need to do some
 extensive testing and refine the structure of the speech server.

 We had initially planned to provide a simple highlight and speak option for
 the xo. We now think that we should scale up and structure the project to
 use eSpeak in a much more effective manner to provide accessibility to
 blind/low vision students.

 I think it would be brilliant if activity developers could exploit the
 underlying speech server to write accessible activities. For example, an
 activity at present can connect to the speech service through dbus and send
 it strings of text to be spoken. We hope to prepare some guidelines for
 activity developers to write accessible activities that could use the speech
 server. What would be best way to do this?

 We are also planning to explore Orca.  We dont want to rush into development
 now, and would like to take some time in properly planning our approach and
 creating some design documents first.

 It'll be nice if experts could share their ideas and provide us with some
 direction for this project.

 Thank you and wishing you all a very Happy New Year.

 Warm regards,
 Hemant Goyal


  Message: 1
  Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:57:38 +
  From: Gabey8 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [laptop-accessibility] How can the XO be made accessible to
 blind   users?
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 
  I have some deaf-blind friends who use braille attachments to access their
 computers.
 
  What needs to be done in order to permit the XO to work with a braille
 terminal or notetaker? What screen reading programs are available for Linux?
 
  And if said screen reading programs don't like working with Sugar (yet,
 anyway), is setting the XO up to boot to the terminal screen and going with
 text-only a viable solution for braille users?
 
  Donna
 
  
  Donna -- purple outline with orange fill color. If you see me in the
 Neighborhood, say hi! :)
 

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Re: How can the XO be made accessible to blind

2007-12-30 Thread Mitch Bradley
David W Hogg wrote:
 On a somewhat related note, is there any way to attach an external
 monitor to the XO?  I would love to give my astronomy research
 seminars in the spring from my G1G1 XO; but this would also be useful
 for those with impaired sight (some of my colleagues need to immensely
 magnify images, diagrams, and figures in order to see them).  From my
 XO, Hogg
   

Three solutions:

a) Display the XO's graphics on another computer using X or VNC.

b) Purchase a USB graphics adapter.  (Google for USB graphics adapter 
to find some).  It is reported that Linux drivers are available for some 
of them, but as far as I know, nobody has tested one on an XO.

c) Dismantle the XO, install a suitable VGA connector at CN12 at the top 
left of the board (looking from the back), and cut a hole in the plastic 
to make room for the VGA cable to get out.  A modification to the X 
configuration file will then enable VGA output.  (Yes, it would be nice 
if this feature were easier to access, but providing such a connector as 
a standard feature would have increased the cost for our target market 
of developing world children, and compromised the industrial design and 
water resistance.)

 On Dec 30, 2007 12:52 PM, Hemant Goyal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Hi,

 We have been working on a simple screen reader for the XO and have made some
 headway. We have ported and customized eSpeak for the XO. A text to speech
 server has been written and methods exposed through Dbus . I have documented
 the work done till now at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Screen_Reader. The DBUS
 api may be changed in the future. However, we still need to do some
 extensive testing and refine the structure of the speech server.

 We had initially planned to provide a simple highlight and speak option for
 the xo. We now think that we should scale up and structure the project to
 use eSpeak in a much more effective manner to provide accessibility to
 blind/low vision students.

 I think it would be brilliant if activity developers could exploit the
 underlying speech server to write accessible activities. For example, an
 activity at present can connect to the speech service through dbus and send
 it strings of text to be spoken. We hope to prepare some guidelines for
 activity developers to write accessible activities that could use the speech
 server. What would be best way to do this?

 We are also planning to explore Orca.  We dont want to rush into development
 now, and would like to take some time in properly planning our approach and
 creating some design documents first.

 It'll be nice if experts could share their ideas and provide us with some
 direction for this project.

 Thank you and wishing you all a very Happy New Year.

 Warm regards,
 Hemant Goyal


 
 Message: 1
 Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:57:38 +
 From: Gabey8 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [laptop-accessibility] How can the XO be made accessible to
blind   users?
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


 I have some deaf-blind friends who use braille attachments to access their
   
 computers.
 
 What needs to be done in order to permit the XO to work with a braille
   
 terminal or notetaker? What screen reading programs are available for Linux?
 
 And if said screen reading programs don't like working with Sugar (yet,
   
 anyway), is setting the XO up to boot to the terminal screen and going with
 text-only a viable solution for braille users?
 
 Donna

 
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 Neighborhood, say hi! :)
 
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Re: How can the XO be made accessible to blind

2007-12-30 Thread Duane King
Espeak works fine, the XO just did not have the correct sound system config 
installed because somebody forgot to enable OSS emulation in ALSA. 

I hope you did not waste a lot of time editing the code for Espeak to get 
around this bug, I hope you did not edit it to make it pipe out sound data to 
be plaved via another utility, as espeak does all that by itself much faster, 
direct to the sound card without pipes, once the OSS sound system it requires 
is fully emulated in ALSA and it can use the required /dev/dsp and related 
file devices that it requires.

I actualy files some bugs on this; Look for keyword 'espeak'.

- Duane King

On Sunday 30 December 2007 09:52:16 am Hemant Goyal wrote:
 Hi,

 We have been working on a simple screen reader for the XO and have made
 some headway. We have ported and customized eSpeak for the XO. A text to
 speech server has been written and methods exposed through Dbus . I have
 documented the work done till now at
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Screen_Reader. The DBUS api may be changed in the
 future. However, we still need to do some extensive testing and refine the
 structure of the speech server.

 We had initially planned to provide a simple highlight and speak option for
 the xo. We now think that we should scale up and structure the project to
 use eSpeak in a much more effective manner to provide accessibility to
 blind/low vision students.

 I think it would be brilliant if activity developers could exploit the
 underlying speech server to write accessible activities. For example, an
 activity at present can connect to the speech service through dbus and send
 it strings of text to be spoken. We hope to prepare some guidelines for
 activity developers to write accessible activities that could use the
 speech server. What would be best way to do this?

 We are also planning to explore Orca.  We dont want to rush into
 development now, and would like to take some time in properly planning our
 approach and creating some design documents first.

 It'll be nice if experts could share their ideas and provide us with some
 direction for this project.

 Thank you and wishing you all a very Happy New Year.

 Warm regards,
 Hemant Goyal

 Message: 1

  Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:57:38 +
  From: Gabey8 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [laptop-accessibility] How can the XO be made accessible to
 blind   users?
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
  I have some deaf-blind friends who use braille attachments to access
  their computers.
 
  What needs to be done in order to permit the XO to work with a braille
  terminal or notetaker? What screen reading programs are available for
  Linux?
 
  And if said screen reading programs don't like working with Sugar (yet,
  anyway), is setting the XO up to boot to the terminal screen and going
  with text-only a viable solution for braille users?
 
  Donna
 
  
  Donna -- purple outline with orange fill color. If you see me in the
  Neighborhood, say hi! :)



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