Re: Why not use swfdec-mozilla? (was Re: Installing Flash on the OLPC)

2009-01-03 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Brian Pepple bpep...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
 Quick clarification.  We discussed making swfdec installed by default
 during the development of Fedora 9, but decided against doing so since
 we felt it wasn't quite ready for that.


Ah, thanks for the clarification, I don't run Fedora so I wouldn't know :)

 I'm not sure if it was considered, but as the maintainer of swfdec in
 Fedora I can state that swfdec is very cpu-intensive, and I have my
 doubts whether the performance on the XO would be comparable to gnash's,
 though it might be worth investigating.

That has been my experience too, but I always thought that the
CPU-intensive stuff was only for complex Flash-9 things, and because
my ATI open source drivers sucked ;p

I guess I should compare gnash/swfdec/adobe flash performance-wise too.

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Re: Why not use swfdec-mozilla? (was Re: Installing Flash on the OLPC)

2009-01-03 Thread Peter Robinson
 I'm not sure if it was considered, but as the maintainer of swfdec in
 Fedora I can state that swfdec is very cpu-intensive, and I have my
 doubts whether the performance on the XO would be comparable to gnash's,
 though it might be worth investigating.

 That has been my experience too, but I always thought that the
 CPU-intensive stuff was only for complex Flash-9 things, and because
 my ATI open source drivers sucked ;p

I don't believe its a video driver issue as I've seen it on both
nvidia and intel using the default open source drivers included in
Fedora.

Peter
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Why not use swfdec-mozilla? (was Re: Installing Flash on the OLPC)

2009-01-01 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
Hello everyone,
(top-posting due to tangent nature of discussion)

Just a thought here, in my experience, swfdec[1] works far better than
gnash for flash websites; why not use that? There's a Firefox/Gecko
plugin called swfdec-mozilla which works beautifully.

swfdec{,-mozilla} use gstreamer, are LGPLed, and support most of the
Flash 9 features whereas gnash supports only a few of the Flash 9
features. swfdec is also the default Flash player on Fedora, and is
the preferred flash player on Ubuntu.

Were there some specific problems with using swfdec? Or was it not
under consideration due to some factors?

On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 5:11 AM, S Page i...@skierpage.com wrote:
 Dear genesee, Carlos Nazareno, Everybody,

 gently Many more people are going to read
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Adobe_Flash page than follow this mailing
 list.  Your effect on XO users by only answering problems here is
 limited, you're just making the smart smarter still.



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Re: Why not use swfdec-mozilla? (was Re: Installing Flash on the OLPC)

2009-01-01 Thread Brian Pepple
On Thu, 2009-01-01 at 14:16 +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
 swfdec{,-mozilla} use gstreamer, are LGPLed, and support most of the
 Flash 9 features whereas gnash supports only a few of the Flash 9
 features. swfdec is also the default Flash player on Fedora, and is
 the preferred flash player on Ubuntu.

Quick clarification.  We discussed making swfdec installed by default
during the development of Fedora 9, but decided against doing so since
we felt it wasn't quite ready for that.

 Were there some specific problems with using swfdec? Or was it not
 under consideration due to some factors?

I'm not sure if it was considered, but as the maintainer of swfdec in
Fedora I can state that swfdec is very cpu-intensive, and I have my
doubts whether the performance on the XO would be comparable to gnash's,
though it might be worth investigating.

Later,
/B
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Re: Why not use swfdec-mozilla? (was Re: Installing Flash on the OLPC)

2009-01-01 Thread Peter Robinson
 swfdec{,-mozilla} use gstreamer, are LGPLed, and support most of the
 Flash 9 features whereas gnash supports only a few of the Flash 9
 features. swfdec is also the default Flash player on Fedora, and is
 the preferred flash player on Ubuntu.

 Quick clarification.  We discussed making swfdec installed by default
 during the development of Fedora 9, but decided against doing so since
 we felt it wasn't quite ready for that.

 Were there some specific problems with using swfdec? Or was it not
 under consideration due to some factors?

 I'm not sure if it was considered, but as the maintainer of swfdec in
 Fedora I can state that swfdec is very cpu-intensive, and I have my
 doubts whether the performance on the XO would be comparable to gnash's,
 though it might be worth investigating.

I've found it very cpu intensive on Fedora 9 and 10 with a penryn dual
core processor. It basically pins one of the cores to 100% CPU but if
I download the video by saving it from the properties box within the
plugin I don't see that issue using the swfdec-gnome player so there's
probably some low hanging fruit within the actual plugin that might be
able to improve the problem easily for someone that knows where to
look.

Peter
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Re: Installing Flash on the OLPC

2008-12-31 Thread genesee

Dear =S Page,

As the social analog of town drunk on this list, I am flattered as hell to
be lumped in with the smart set!

¬°Gracias!
   genesee


S Page-2 wrote:
 
 you're just making the smart smarter still.
 

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Re: Installing Flash on the OLPC

2008-12-30 Thread S Page
Dear genesee, Carlos Nazareno, Everybody,

gently Many more people are going to read 
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Adobe_Flash page than follow this mailing 
list.  Your effect on XO users by only answering problems here is 
limited, you're just making the smart smarter still.

Just in time for New Year's resolutions:  edit the wiki page first.


Anyway, why does this wiki page tell you to enter
   sudo su -
   commands
when every other page I've seen says
   su -  (or su -l)
   commands
? `sudo su -` seems redundant.

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Re: Installing Flash on the OLPC

2008-12-29 Thread Carlos Nazareno
Hi Shivaprasad.

You don't have to uninstall GNASH.

Adobe Flash 10 and GNASH should co-exist with the latest OLPC build,
with the Adobe Flash plugin taking over for the browse activity, and
GNASH launchable outside the browser in stand-alone mode.

Regards,

-Naz


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 Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:09:01 +0530
 From: shivaprasad javali jbs...@gmail.com
 Subject: Installing Flash on the OLPC
 To: OLPC Devel Devel@lists.laptop.org
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 Hi,
 I am trying to install Adobe Flash Player on my OLPC. I followed the
 instructions on this page
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Adobe_Flash#Installationto install the flash
 player. According to it, I have to remove the GNASH
 plugin which comes with the OLPC before I install Flash.

 I want to know whether this is necessary. Can I install Flash player
 without uninstalling GNASH and which one will be used by the Browser and
 other activities on the OLPC if I have both of them on the OLPC.

 Thanks
 jbsp72


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Re: Installing Flash on the OLPC

2008-12-29 Thread C. Scott Ananian
2008/12/29 shivaprasad javali jbs...@gmail.com:
 Hi,
  I am trying to install Adobe Flash Player on my OLPC. I followed the
 instructions on this page http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Adobe_Flash#Installation
 to install the flash player. According to it, I have to remove the GNASH
 plugin which comes with the OLPC before I install Flash.

I recommend using Firefox and following the instructions at
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Firefox, for what it's worth.
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Re: Installing Flash on the OLPC

2008-12-29 Thread genesee

Back in build 656 AF9 did battle with gnash. yum remove gnash did the trick
in Terminal. Now with build 767 or 790 AF10 and gnash have been quite civil,
none of those stacked duplicate screens or the like.

Of course you do, Scott! Some of your best work yet. Very clear and easy to
follow. Still, I'm sticking with Browse until Firefox is more Sugar
friendly...unless Browse becomes more Firefox like? 

Mozilla nature is Buddha nature-graffitti in the bathroom at work.


C. Scott Ananian-3 wrote:
 
 I recommend using Firefox and following the instructions at
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Firefox, for what it's worth.
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