Re: Minutes of Power in 9.1.0 meeting

2008-12-25 Thread david
On Wed, 24 Dec 2008, John Gilmore wrote: Also, who is tracking the added ability to shut off power to the radio interface and its logic when the radio is set to off in its control panel (requirement 2)? The difference between Radio Off and Extreme Power Management should become that Radio

Re: Minutes of Power in 9.1.0 meeting

2008-12-25 Thread John Gilmore
along similar lines an issue I have been seeing with the network screen (but haven't gotten around to reporting). my home access point is encrypted and sometimes I can reconnect to it without a problem, but sometimes it acts as if it's never been connected to before (asking me for the

Re: Minutes of Power in 9.1.0 meeting

2008-12-25 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 25.12.2008, at 09:19, John Gilmore wrote: along similar lines an issue I have been seeing with the network screen (but haven't gotten around to reporting). my home access point is encrypted and sometimes I can reconnect to it without a problem, but sometimes it acts as if it's never

Re: Minutes of Power in 9.1.0 meeting

2008-12-25 Thread Carol Farlow Lerche
I'm sure Birmingham or other deployments in the US will be using encrypted access. No US school system would permit an open AP. On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 2:51 AM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.dewrote: On 25.12.2008, at 09:19, John Gilmore wrote: along similar lines an issue I have been

Re: Minutes of Power in 9.1.0 meeting

2008-12-25 Thread Hal Murray
Wireless is *so* hard to debug, the programmers can never get to the location where it actually fails repeatably -- and when it's failing, the laptop is by definition off the net, so they can't login to it remotely to debug it. Has anybody figured out how to run tcpdump on another system?

Re: Minutes of Power in 9.1.0 meeting

2008-12-25 Thread david
On Thu, 25 Dec 2008, Hal Murray wrote: Wireless is *so* hard to debug, the programmers can never get to the location where it actually fails repeatably -- and when it's failing, the laptop is by definition off the net, so they can't login to it remotely to debug it. Has anybody figured out

Re: Minutes of Power in 9.1.0 meeting

2008-12-25 Thread Carol Farlow Lerche
I have recently seen this behavior with the Gnome desktop network applet, when provisioning Ubuntu Intrepid on some old laptops donated to a school near me. What fixed my problem was making pm-utils unload/reload the madwifi atheros driver on suspend and hibernate. I think the prompt for a

Re: Minutes of Power in 9.1.0 meeting

2008-12-25 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 12:19:37AM -0800, John Gilmore wrote: along similar lines an issue I have been seeing with the network screen (but haven't gotten around to reporting). my home access point is encrypted and sometimes I can reconnect to it without a problem, but sometimes it acts as

Re: Minutes of Power in 9.1.0 meeting

2008-12-25 Thread Hal Murray
da...@lang.hm said: what I see is that when it starts up (power up, wake from sleep, etc) it sometimes pops up the window asking for the encryption key. it doesn't always do so, and it doesn't seem to make a difference if the XO never leaves my house or if I've connected to many other

Re: Minutes of Power in 9.1.0 meeting

2008-12-25 Thread Alexander Belopolsky
On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: .. I used Wpa.sh from a message ages ago. It puts things in /home/olpc/.sugar/default/nm/networks.cfg There is a more recent implementation of the same idea in a python script: mw.py and more at

Re: Minutes of Power in 9.1.0 meeting

2008-12-24 Thread John Gilmore
Also, who is tracking the added ability to shut off power to the radio interface and its logic when the radio is set to off in its control panel (requirement 2)? The difference between Radio Off and Extreme Power Management should become that Radio Off still leaves the USB bus functioning,

Re: Minutes of Power in 9.1.0 meeting

2008-12-18 Thread Greg Smith
: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:56:04 -0500 From: Chris Ball c...@laptop.org Subject: Re: Minutes of Power in 9.1.0 meeting To: g...@laptop.org Cc: Richard Smith rich...@laptop.org, OLPC Development devel@lists.laptop.org, Joseph A. Feinstein j...@laptop.org Message-ID: m3myeuqum3

Re: Minutes of Power in 9.1.0 meeting

2008-12-17 Thread Chris Ball
Hi Greg, * Chris to make some additions to requirement linking in the existing documentation, including what happens when the lid is closed. I believe Joe is waiting for Chris to update the requirements before he writes the test cases. I am waiting for the test cases so I

Re: Minutes of Power in 9.1.0 meeting

2008-12-17 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Smith wrote: Comments and questions welcome. I think it would be good to clarify what the 9.1.0 plans are for #7958 (DCON shows old image with noise artifacts for the duration of suspend) and #8893 (image jumps vertically for a single frame

Re: Minutes of Power in 9.1.0 meeting

2008-12-17 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, I think it would be good to clarify what the 9.1.0 plans are for #7958 (DCON shows old image with noise artifacts for the duration of suspend) and #8893 (image jumps vertically for a single frame during resume). These two tickets seem to have been confused on the

Re: Minutes of Power in 9.1.0 meeting

2008-12-17 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Ball wrote: Hi, I think it would be good to clarify what the 9.1.0 plans are for #7958 (DCON shows old image with noise artifacts for the duration of suspend) and #8893 (image jumps vertically for a single frame during

Re: Minutes of Power in 9.1.0 meeting

2008-12-15 Thread John Gilmore
On a different note, one test we might think about running is the closest thing the industry has to a standard battery life test. It's specified on a lot of the netbook specs. It's defined here: http://it.jeita.or.jp/mobile/e/index.html However, I'm also seeing that a lot of vendors

Re: Minutes of Power in 9.1.0 meeting

2008-12-15 Thread david
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008, John Gilmore wrote: On a different note, one test we might think about running is the closest thing the industry has to a standard battery life test. It's specified on a lot of the netbook specs. It's defined here: http://it.jeita.or.jp/mobile/e/index.html However,

Re: Minutes of Power in 9.1.0 meeting

2008-12-12 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Chris, Joe, Paul and Richard, How are we doing on closing these action items? * Chris to make some additions to requirement linking in the existing documentation, including what happens when the lid is closed. * Mitch and Deepak to figure out who works on requirement 12. * Joe to

Re: Minutes of Power in 9.1.0 meeting

2008-12-12 Thread Richard A. Smith
Greg Smith wrote: * Richard to determine how to address the no regressions requirement and how to measure the success of the feature in terms of Amps used. I've been working on such tests off and on since October when the report of 8.2 regressions first popped up. And while I've learned