Re: Sugar unusable as an e-book reader

2008-10-29 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 11:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 28 Oct 2008, Jim Gettys wrote: http://live.gnome.org/Evince/SupportedDocumentFormats has evince's currently supported formats. I don't know exactly how we have it built. it's disappointing to see that they miss the

Re: Sugar unusable as an e-book reader

2008-10-28 Thread Greg Smith
-- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:06:29 -0500 From: James Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Sugar unusable as an e-book reader To: devel@lists.laptop.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed All, As the author of Read Etexts

Re: Sugar unusable as an e-book reader

2008-10-28 Thread James Simmons
itself. James Simmons Subject: Re: Sugar unusable as an e-book reader To: devel@lists.laptop.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi James and David, I want to track additions and improvements to the XOs eBook Reader on our Feature

Re: Sugar unusable as an e-book reader

2008-10-28 Thread Jim Gettys
more formats. I don't feel qualified to work on Read itself. James Simmons Subject: Re: Sugar unusable as an e-book reader To: devel@lists.laptop.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi James and David, I want to track

Re: Sugar unusable as an e-book reader

2008-10-28 Thread david
stopgaps until the XO has a better Read activity that supports more formats. I don't feel qualified to work on Read itself. James Simmons Subject: Re: Sugar unusable as an e-book reader To: devel@lists.laptop.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format

Re: Sugar unusable as an e-book reader

2008-10-28 Thread James Simmons
David, Actually, the Journal *does* let you choose whatever Activity you like to open a document with. For instance, with a Zip file you can open it with EToys, View Slides, or Read Etexts. What the Journal doesn't do is open the one you'd like as a default. If you just Resume a Zip file

Re: Sugar unusable as an e-book reader

2008-10-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 28.10.2008, at 11:38, James Simmons wrote: What the Journal doesn't do is open the one you'd like as a default. /usr/share/sugar/data/activities.default - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

Re: Sugar unusable as an e-book reader

2008-10-27 Thread Hal Murray
Surely the solution for reading books is to ignore pdf - a format optimised for serialising text for print such that printing (which the XO doesn't even support yet) works the same way everywhere - and going to another well defined format more suitable for reading on a computer, such as

Re: Sugar unusable as an e-book reader

2008-10-27 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 27.10.2008 um 05:54 schrieb Benjamin M. Schwartz: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the full-screen mode is useless as the large icon to revert back to normal covers up the text in the upper corner. That icon is tiny, at least on my copy of Read. It certainly occupies less vertical space

Re: Sugar unusable as an e-book reader

2008-10-27 Thread Stephen Thorne
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Hal Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ebooks are just the tip of the iceberg. (and probably only the first iceberg) Do you have a plan to translate all the existing pdf files into your new wonderful format? Even if you came up with a new/wonderful ebook

Re: Sugar unusable as an e-book reader

2008-10-27 Thread John Gilmore
Surely the solution for reading books is to ignore pdf That's pretty limiting. There are more legal downloadable books available in PDF than in any other format, about 600,000 on the Internet Archive alone. Scanned-in paper books are still the most popular sort. Producing text, rtf, or html

Re: Sugar unusable as an e-book reader

2008-10-27 Thread S Page
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: opening the book in .html just produces a lot of errors becouse the book is spread across lots of files, and the jurnal isolation mechanisms copy the file being opened to a temporary directory, where all the links to the other files don't work. Note that you could

Re: Sugar unusable as an e-book reader

2008-10-27 Thread david
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, S Page wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: opening the book in .html just produces a lot of errors becouse the book is spread across lots of files, and the jurnal isolation mechanisms copy the file being opened to a temporary directory, where all the links to the other

Re: Sugar unusable as an e-book reader

2008-10-27 Thread david
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, S Page wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In an ideal world the book would be packaged as a single collection (.xol) file, so downloading it would unpack it in ~/Library and add it to the content navigation in the OLPC Library home page. You could try

Re: Sugar unusable as an e-book reader

2008-10-27 Thread karl ramberg
On 10/27/08, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 27 Oct 2008, at 04:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just gave up on trying to use my XO to read e-books (build 767) I read a number of quite large pdf documents and research papers on the XO, Read has been good for me and though there

Re: Sugar unusable as an e-book reader

2008-10-27 Thread James Simmons
All, As the author of Read Etexts I am grateful for all the mentions of my Activity on this mailing list. To answer David Lang's question, being able to read Gutenberg's plain text files without converting them IS the feature. There are hundreds of thousands of books available in this

Re: Sugar unusable as an e-book reader

2008-10-27 Thread david
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, Gary C Martin wrote: On 27 Oct 2008, at 04:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just gave up on trying to use my XO to read e-books (build 767) I read a number of quite large pdf documents and research papers on the XO, Read has been good for me and though there could be

Re: Sugar unusable as an e-book reader

2008-10-27 Thread Gary C Martin
On 27 Oct 2008, at 22:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, Gary C Martin wrote: On 27 Oct 2008, at 04:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just gave up on trying to use my XO to read e-books (build 767) I read a number of quite large pdf documents and research papers on the XO,

Re: Sugar unusable as an e-book reader

2008-10-27 Thread david
On Tue, 28 Oct 2008, Gary C Martin wrote: On 27 Oct 2008, at 22:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, Gary C Martin wrote: On 27 Oct 2008, at 04:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just gave up on trying to use my XO to read e-books (build 767) I read a number of quite large

Re: Sugar unusable as an e-book reader

2008-10-27 Thread Albert Cahalan
S Page writes: HTML in Browse integrates cleanly with the library/home page, can use advanced CSS for attractive layout, takes you from a link to a document without the download-Journal-Read steps, avoids PDF's fundamental broken-ness rendering a paper page on a screen, has JavaScript to add

Re: Sugar unusable as an e-book reader

2008-10-26 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
I have no response to many of your points, but I do have responses for a few. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: opening the document in .rtf sometimes works, but about half the time the XO sits and works for about 30 seconds then goes back to the screen you were on before. This is definitely a bug.

Re: Sugar unusable as an e-book reader

2008-10-26 Thread david
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: I have no response to many of your points, but I do have responses for a few. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: opening the document in .rtf sometimes works, but about half the time the XO sits and works for about 30 seconds then goes back to the

Re: Sugar unusable as an e-book reader

2008-10-26 Thread Hal Murray
opening the book in .pdf comes the closest to working. I was still unable to copy the document, so I had to try and read with the USB stick haning out of the machine. I could zoom so that the text is the width of the screen, but after doing so I was unable to center the text (the arrow

Re: Sugar unusable as an e-book reader

2008-10-26 Thread Stephen Thorne
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Hal Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like a pdf reader that would recognize multi-column formatting and have a mode so that the up-down arrows go up-down following columns rather than pages. Surely the solution for reading books is to ignore pdf - a

Re: Sugar unusable as an e-book reader

2008-10-26 Thread James Cameron
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 10:14:52PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how do I do screenshots on the XO? http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Sugar/Quick_screenshot_hack is one method. -- James Cameronmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://quozl.netrek.org/ ___

Re: Sugar unusable as an e-book reader

2008-10-26 Thread david
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008, Hal Murray wrote: opening the book in .pdf comes the closest to working. I was still unable to copy the document, so I had to try and read with the USB stick haning out of the machine. I could zoom so that the text is the width of the screen, but after doing so I was

Re: Sugar unusable as an e-book reader

2008-10-26 Thread david
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, Stephen Thorne wrote: On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Hal Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like a pdf reader that would recognize multi-column formatting and have a mode so that the up-down arrows go up-down following columns rather than pages. Surely the solution