Re: XO-1.75 - Flash, Java?

2011-04-14 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 12:47 AM, Carlos Nazareno object...@gmail.com wrote:
 Will Flash Flash Player  Java SE (not JavaME) run on the XO-1.75, it
 being non-x86?

 For Android, Flash Player requires an ARMv7 (Cortex) + to run.

 Flash Player 9 was running on the N900 which ran Maemo.

 Video calls  streaming over internet is now one of the most important
 uses for developing countries and for children to talk to family
 members like parents who work overseas like here in the Philippines.
 Aside from Skype, Flash facilitates this for streaming.

 AFAIK Youtube will also be rolling out more livestreaming soon and
 will probably do full streaming for anyone a la Ustream in the future.

Java should be OK. The version that Fedora ships is based on the open
GPL version that is called IcedTea and is fully certified by the Java
group. We'll know more in the next month or so.

Flash might be a little more difficult as the version on the n900
wasn't generally downloadable. gnash and/or lightspark should work
though.

Peter
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Re: XO-1.75 - Flash, Java?

2011-04-14 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Java should be OK. The version that Fedora ships is based on the open
 GPL version that is called IcedTea and is fully certified by the Java
 group. We'll know more in the next month or so.

Yep. Also to note that it is missing in the F13 ARM build so it may be
held up with some problem.

 Flash might be a little more difficult as the version on the n900

OTOH, I have seen Flash running on Ubuntu on ARM (on the Freescale
Cortex SOC), so it is possibly within reach... of Adobe. Nothing we
can do on that front.

Carlos -- please make sure you chase Adobe on this topic. And Skype.



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Re: XO-1.75 - Flash, Java?

2011-04-14 Thread Carlos Nazareno
 Carlos -- please make sure you chase Adobe on this topic. And Skype.

 m

Will re-initiate talks w/ Adobe folks.

Btw, congrats on the recent developments in South America guys! Really
cool stuff! :)

-Naz

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Re: XO-1.75 - Flash, Java?

2011-04-13 Thread Alan Eliasen
On 04/13/2011 05:47 PM, Carlos Nazareno wrote:
 Will Flash Flash Player  Java SE (not JavaME) run on the XO-1.75, it
 being non-x86?

   You may look into trying to get Java SE For Embedded working.  It
supposedly supports ARM architectures, but that's all I know about it.

http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/embedded/overview/index.html#FAQ

   I did some work on getting Java to work correctly on my XO-1.0 and
added the information that I discovered to the Wiki:

   http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Java

   The biggest problems were that the Java distribution available from
Yum didn't pull in the fonts that its font configuration file actually
used (making everything show up in an odd italic font,) and some
problems with the display not being repainted properly on rotate.

   I considered it also a serious problem that the then-shipping
configurations of the OLPC completely lacked fonts with glyphs for many
languages (e.g. there were no fonts with Chinese or Japanese characters)
so these languages could not be rendered in any application on the OLPC,
including in the browser. This should probably be considered to be a bug
in a supposedly-internationalized platform, and affects language
learning, or even seeing what another language looks like.

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Re: XO-1.75 - Flash, Java?

2011-04-13 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Alan Eliasen elia...@mindspring.com wrote:
   I considered it also a serious problem that the then-shipping
 configurations of the OLPC completely lacked fonts with glyphs for many
 languages (e.g. there were no fonts with Chinese or Japanese characters)
 so these languages could not be rendered in any application on the OLPC,
 including in the browser. This should probably be considered to be a bug
 in a supposedly-internationalized platform, and affects language
 learning, or even seeing what another language looks like.

The Chinese and Japanese fonts are *very* large.  I believe OLPC only
ships them to countries which need them, in order to make more space
for kids' stuff.
 --scott
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