Re: fonts-thai-ttf has been abandoned!

2008-07-17 Thread Yuan Chao
2008/7/3 Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 2008/7/2 C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 9:01 PM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 (It does display correctly on joyride-2098, but the Pangram page
 indicates that we are missing fonts for Dzongkha (language of Bhutan),
 Hebrew, Japanese, Korean, and Chinese.  These fonts are in the
 packages 'fonts-hebrew' (1M), 'fonts-japanese' (22M!), 'fonts-chinese'
 (24M!) and 'fonts-korean' (18M!); hopefully these's a subset of the
 japanese/chinese/korean fonts which is lighter weight!)
 Yes, but you aren't going to get away with much less than 10M each.
A newly developed font WQY Zenhei has a quite good CJK coverage.
(~21K glyphs) The size of its latest version is about 11M and can be
further down to ~8M if embedded bitmap fonts stripped. (useful for low
res but too small for OLPC)


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Re: fonts-thai-ttf has been abandoned!

2008-07-02 Thread Jim Gettys
This probably dates from when Behdad was helping us with Thai rendering.

Behdad, do you remember?
   - Jim


On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 17:52 -0400, C. Scott Ananian wrote:
 We added a package named 'fonts-thai-ttf' to our builds a while ago
 for thai font support.  However, no one here now remembers where this
 font came from, or where the upstream came from.  Can someone familiar
 with thai support help out?  Ideally we'd like to confirm the
 licensing and then grow a maintainer for this package in fedora.
 Thanks!
  --scott
 
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Re: fonts-thai-ttf has been abandoned!

2008-07-02 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 18:19 -0400, C. Scott Ananian wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  C. Scott Ananian wrote:
 
  We added a package named 'fonts-thai-ttf' to our builds a while ago
  for thai font support.  However, no one here now remembers where this
  font came from, or where the upstream came from.  Can someone familiar
  with thai support help out?  Ideally we'd like to confirm the
  licensing and then grow a maintainer for this package in fedora.
 
 
  I *think* this was provided by behdad, adding him.
 
  Am I wrong to think that thaifonts-scalable should replace it?
 
 From http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=34572 it
 looks like you are right, considering the first changelog entry is
 from Behdad and explicitly mentions OLPC.

Yes, I followed up on Fedora and the package was added to Fedora with a
different name.

behdad


   But I'd like some
 confirmation from someone doing work in Thailand, if possible.  Is
 there a test case I can run to find out if Thai support works?
  --scott
 
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Re: fonts-thai-ttf has been abandoned!

2008-07-02 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 18:43 -0400, C. Scott Ananian wrote:
 
 While we're at it: why are we including libthai-devel, consisting
 mostly of a whole bunch of .h files?  Is there some need for that I'm
 missing (and can I test it)?

Building Pango requires that, but not at runtime.

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Re: fonts-thai-ttf has been abandoned!

2008-07-02 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 10:18 -0400, Jim Gettys wrote:
 This probably dates from when Behdad was helping us with Thai rendering.
 
 Behdad, do you remember?

Yeah, I already replied.  The Fedora thaifonts-scalable package
supersede that.


   - Jim
 
 
 On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 17:52 -0400, C. Scott Ananian wrote:
  We added a package named 'fonts-thai-ttf' to our builds a while ago
  for thai font support.  However, no one here now remembers where this
  font came from, or where the upstream came from.  Can someone familiar
  with thai support help out?  Ideally we'd like to confirm the
  licensing and then grow a maintainer for this package in fedora.
  Thanks!
   --scott
  
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Re: fonts-thai-ttf has been abandoned!

2008-07-02 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 2:52 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We added a package named 'fonts-thai-ttf' to our builds a while ago
 for thai font support.  However, no one here now remembers where this
 font came from, or where the upstream came from.  Can someone familiar
 with thai support help out?  Ideally we'd like to confirm the
 licensing and then grow a maintainer for this package in fedora.
 Thanks!

I would expect it to be the same as the Debian package ttf-thai-tlwg,
but if not, then you have a new resource.

Thai fonts in TrueType format
This package provides some free-licensed fonts that are
enhanced by developpers from Thai Linux Working Group.
In TrueType format.

At the moment, it provides two families from the National Font
Project (Garuda, Norasi), one from NECTEC (Loma) and three
developed by TLWG itself (Tlwg Mono, Tlwg Typewriter, Purisa).

http://www.nida.gov.kh/activities/localization/thai.pdf

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Re: fonts-thai-ttf has been abandoned!

2008-07-01 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
C. Scott Ananian wrote:
 We added a package named 'fonts-thai-ttf' to our builds a while ago
 for thai font support.  However, no one here now remembers where this
 font came from, or where the upstream came from.  Can someone familiar
 with thai support help out?  Ideally we'd like to confirm the
 licensing and then grow a maintainer for this package in fedora.
   

I *think* this was provided by behdad, adding him.

Am I wrong to think that thaifonts-scalable should replace it?

Marco

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Re: fonts-thai-ttf has been abandoned!

2008-07-01 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 C. Scott Ananian wrote:

 We added a package named 'fonts-thai-ttf' to our builds a while ago
 for thai font support.  However, no one here now remembers where this
 font came from, or where the upstream came from.  Can someone familiar
 with thai support help out?  Ideally we'd like to confirm the
 licensing and then grow a maintainer for this package in fedora.


 I *think* this was provided by behdad, adding him.

 Am I wrong to think that thaifonts-scalable should replace it?

From http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=34572 it
looks like you are right, considering the first changelog entry is
from Behdad and explicitly mentions OLPC.  But I'd like some
confirmation from someone doing work in Thailand, if possible.  Is
there a test case I can run to find out if Thai support works?
 --scott

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Re: fonts-thai-ttf has been abandoned!

2008-07-01 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 6:19 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 C. Scott Ananian wrote:

 We added a package named 'fonts-thai-ttf' to our builds a while ago
 for thai font support.  However, no one here now remembers where this
 font came from, or where the upstream came from.  Can someone familiar
 with thai support help out?  Ideally we'd like to confirm the
 licensing and then grow a maintainer for this package in fedora.


 I *think* this was provided by behdad, adding him.

 Am I wrong to think that thaifonts-scalable should replace it?

 From http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=34572 it
 looks like you are right, considering the first changelog entry is
 from Behdad and explicitly mentions OLPC.  But I'd like some
 confirmation from someone doing work in Thailand, if possible.  Is
 there a test case I can run to find out if Thai support works?

While we're at it: why are we including libthai-devel, consisting
mostly of a whole bunch of .h files?  Is there some need for that I'm
missing (and can I test it)?
 --scott

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