Re: some very cool features for a capacitive touchscreen

2013-10-25 Thread Manuel Quiñones
2013/10/24 Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu

 I saw some very cool features in a presentation today at the Internet
 Archive. The presentation was by Eitenne Mineur, as part o the Books
 in Browsers 13 event.

 They are using paper and other simple objects that have kind of
 conductive patterns to create story platforms, but with interactivity.
 Start with a story screen, place a paper cutout of one of the
 characters, and the story comes to life. Place a second character, and
 the scene changes.

 All very interesting ideas for us to use on the XO-4 Touch, although
 the XO4 does not use capacitance, but the idea is very cool.

 http://volumique.com/

Wow, this is very inspiring.  Somebody should try this technique on an XO-4.

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Re: some very cool features for a capacitive touchscreen

2013-10-25 Thread Jon Nettleton
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org wrote:

 2013/10/24 Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu
 
  I saw some very cool features in a presentation today at the Internet
  Archive. The presentation was by Eitenne Mineur, as part o the Books
  in Browsers 13 event.
 
  They are using paper and other simple objects that have kind of
  conductive patterns to create story platforms, but with interactivity.
  Start with a story screen, place a paper cutout of one of the
  characters, and the story comes to life. Place a second character, and
  the scene changes.
 
  All very interesting ideas for us to use on the XO-4 Touch, although
  the XO4 does not use capacitance, but the idea is very cool.
 
  http://volumique.com/

 Wow, this is very inspiring.  Somebody should try this technique on an
 XO-4.


Unfortunately because of the way our touch technology works, this exact
implementation won't work.  However our touch technology is actually nicer
because you don't need special material to activate the touches.  I think
what would work well for us would be an activity that allowed you to
program what shape/character was attached to different size touch points.
 Then use small wooden/plastic disks of different sizes glued or clipped to
the back of the cutouts to trigger the touch events and let the program
know what story to tell.

smallest disk = dog
medium disk = frog
large disk = frisbee

I would have to double check but I think we pass along the touch width as
the pressure value for evdev.  Should be easy to parse the event and figure
out what is on the screen, and should work with 2-4 touches/items.

-Jon
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Re: some very cool features for a capacitive touchscreen

2013-10-25 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
The last time I checked, the width was as pressure in evdev,
but was not available in the gtk event.
Another option is prepare circles of may be 5 mm and paste them behind the
figures,
in different positions. A program can detect that circles as touches,
and recognize the figure using the relative postions. Our touch screen
can detect 4 touches, but can be confused if are aligned in horizontal or
vertical.

Gonzalo




On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Jon Nettleton jon.nettle...@gmail.comwrote:




 On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org wrote:

 2013/10/24 Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu
 
  I saw some very cool features in a presentation today at the Internet
  Archive. The presentation was by Eitenne Mineur, as part o the Books
  in Browsers 13 event.
 
  They are using paper and other simple objects that have kind of
  conductive patterns to create story platforms, but with interactivity.
  Start with a story screen, place a paper cutout of one of the
  characters, and the story comes to life. Place a second character, and
  the scene changes.
 
  All very interesting ideas for us to use on the XO-4 Touch, although
  the XO4 does not use capacitance, but the idea is very cool.
 
  http://volumique.com/

 Wow, this is very inspiring.  Somebody should try this technique on an
 XO-4.


 Unfortunately because of the way our touch technology works, this exact
 implementation won't work.  However our touch technology is actually nicer
 because you don't need special material to activate the touches.  I think
 what would work well for us would be an activity that allowed you to
 program what shape/character was attached to different size touch points.
  Then use small wooden/plastic disks of different sizes glued or clipped to
 the back of the cutouts to trigger the touch events and let the program
 know what story to tell.

 smallest disk = dog
 medium disk = frog
 large disk = frisbee

 I would have to double check but I think we pass along the touch width as
 the pressure value for evdev.  Should be easy to parse the event and figure
 out what is on the screen, and should work with 2-4 touches/items.

 -Jon

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Re: some very cool features for a capacitive touchscreen

2013-10-25 Thread James Cameron
Sorry, did I say 6mm wide?  I was inaccurate.  The objects should be
8mm wide.

It might well work with less, but I'm reading from the design
specifications which describe use of stylus, so it would be better to
use 8mm width.  Or do a whole lot of testing to be sure.

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO-4

http://wiki.laptop.org/images/0/0c/CL4_Hdwe_Design_Spec.pdf

At least two simultaneous touch points are supported, with additional
simultaneous touches supported in some interface layouts.  The
touchscreen detects fingers or a soft-tipped stylus, as long as the
stylus has a diameter of 8 mm or larger (measured within a mm of the
end.)

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Re: some very cool features for a capacitive touchscreen

2013-10-24 Thread James Cameron
Sounds interesting.

For the XO-4, use objects that are at least 3mm thick (front to back),
at least 6mm wide, and opaque to infrared.

There's a piano keys mode used by an activity, in case further code
tricks are interesting.

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